Don't talk about cheating in WW2OL guys

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  • JG26_EnigmaJG26_Enigma NY, NYMember Posts: 21
    You are actually wrong. JG52 constructed a system that identified missions based on stats from the entire playerbase and the people that had were pulling it the most were noname pilots. A few bad apples (Swoop) poisons the well.
  • JG26_EnigmaJG26_Enigma NY, NYMember Posts: 21
    @JG26Leaks is a fake account, how do I know. I am pretty sure I would proudly admit to most of that. Doing character assasinations or posting porn on the forum was just child's play for us.

    There is no new development in the game, there is nothing to do besides circle jerk over AOs. Besides screwing with people what else is there to do in the forum?

    Nice try though.
  • david06david06 Chantilly, VAMember Posts: 183


    Originally posted by BodkinBarber
    My conclusion:JG26 and co want a clean game - exploiters known in the community
     Mods and CRS don't want to rock the boat - exploiters protected
     Attack the messenger and not the culprit seems to be the running theme here.
     CRS and mods priorities:Ego>Gameplay

    Pretty much.


    I could understand the "Do not mention cheats or call out cheaters" policy if the company actually did something about the problem. They are either unwilling or unable tackle cheaters though.


    So the response I guess is "Don't worry about cheaters, they don't affect the game that much and if this bothers you then you're a sore loser"?


    It's obvious that CRS does not think player statistics are a big feature, in a competitive PvP game no less...well if stats stay down I think they're going to learn whether they are right or not. Eve online has the killboards and I couldn't imagine the riot that would ensue if those were removed.

  • JG26LeaksJG26Leaks Goat, LAMember Posts: 2
    Member join date 14th? Your late to the party :)

    JG26 the innocents right? Wool has been pulled over, views have been polluted. TOS has protected your antics long enough.

    Spy accounts
    Suicide bombers
    Dare I say it...Plug pulling

    Coincidence much about that WW2OL leaks stuff with you guys? As you know I have spoken to you. Cut the antics and we can all carry on with things... If not then don't expect others not to see things that you would prefer not to be seen.

    :)

    S!
  • JG26_EnigmaJG26_Enigma NY, NYMember Posts: 21
    I don't care post what you want.

    No one in my squad says S! so you are an outsider.
  • david06david06 Chantilly, VAMember Posts: 183


    Originally posted by JG26Leaks
    Member join date 14th? Your late to the party :)JG26 the innocents right? Wool has been pulled over, views have been polluted. TOS has protected your antics long enough.Spy accounts
    Suicide bombers
    Dare I say it...Plug pullingCoincidence much about that WW2OL leaks stuff with you guys? As you know I have spoken to you. Cut the antics and we can all carry on with things... If not then don't expect others not to see things that you would prefer not to be seen.:)S!

    What kind of person would get upset over a mod posting screenshots of mod policy?


    Nevermind that...I want to see some of these threats carried out; this is starting to get really entertaining.

  • WWIIOLeaksWWIIOLeaks MoscowMember Posts: 3
    Originally posted by david06

    Originally posted by JG26Leaks
    Member join date 14th? Your late to the party :)JG26 the innocents right? Wool has been pulled over, views have been polluted. TOS has protected your antics long enough.Spy accounts
    Suicide bombers
    Dare I say it...Plug pullingCoincidence much about that WW2OL leaks stuff with you guys? As you know I have spoken to you. Cut the antics and we can all carry on with things... If not then don't expect others not to see things that you would prefer not to be seen.:)S!

    What kind of person would get upset over a mod posting screenshots of mod policy?


    Nevermind that...I want to see some of these threats carried out; this is starting to get really entertaining.

     

    Just trying to derail. I just hope all the mods keep dumping more screenies in here.
  • JG26_EnigmaJG26_Enigma NY, NYMember Posts: 21
    Well don't leave us hanging wtf. Post Moarrr
  • JsilecJsilec crooklyn, NYMember Posts: 36
    This is good stuff i gonna grab some popcorn
  • JG26LeakJG26Leak Witchita, KSMember Posts: 2

    I kind of figured things would continue to go out of control after my post, didnt really want to post that stuff, even if it is the few people here who read this, but I thought those that may have a open mind may see what I put, and hope that you take my word on it as I am not a bad person or really trying to bring heat on JG but people needed to know what they have turned into.

    I actually feel bad for them because of the hate that is shown by some of them no one should have to feel that way, and to make efforts like what is seen here distort what intentions they really have.

    The hypocritical views they show, I remember how abusive some was to other players in game, it was really embarrassing, and would wish they would get banned or something, and if I am right, it happened a few times, maybe kicked or warned.

    I do agree with some points, CRS company needs to find ways of getting rid of the cheaters and the players who purposly like to abuse others. I think that those type of people run players , honost players out of their game...and that would include my old friends , well most likely not anymore, the JG26 squad.

  • mrcheapymrcheapy Bettendorf, IAMember Posts: 56
    this dude is rustlin my jimmies 
  • JG26_EnigmaJG26_Enigma NY, NYMember Posts: 21
    Originally posted by david06
      Originally posted by BodkinBarber
    My conclusion:
      JG26 and co want a clean game - exploiters known in the community
     
    Mods and CRS don't want to rock the boat - exploiters protected
     
    Attack the messenger and not the culprit seems to be the running theme here.
     
    CRS and mods priorities: Ego>Gameplay

     

    Pretty much.


    I could understand the "Do not mention cheats or call out cheaters" policy if the company actually did something about the problem. They are either unwilling or unable tackle cheaters though.


    So the response I guess is "Don't worry about cheaters, they don't affect the game that much and if this bothers you then you're a sore loser"?


    It's obvious that CRS does not think player statistics are a big feature, in a competitive PvP game no less...well if stats stay down I think they're going to learn whether they are right or not. Eve online has the killboards and I couldn't imagine the riot that would ensue if those were removed.

    In WWIIOL China they have a dedicated thread in the hangar just to call people out for shaming. It's a public shaming wall. I don't understand why we don't have this.

  • tom_servotom_servo Indianapolis, INMember Posts: 13
    Originally posted by JG26_Enigma
    [mod edit]

    What part of 'we do not  provide individual response to reports' are you having trouble understanding? You have been told that numerous times, yet you insist that just because no one has replied directly to you that nothing is being done. When you submit a report, that is part of the standard response that appears in your text window. In red. In English. Yet you base your complaints on the fact that no one tells you what is going on.

    The GMs, giving up their own playing time, investigate every single report that comes in. Every time poor little Enigma thinks he has been deprived of a kill, he sends a report. Every single time Enigma is (gasp) killed by someone, he sends a report.  Despite the fact that Enigma's own artificially inflated sense of his own self worth is the source of most of these accusations, all of them are looked at as they come in, because GMs HATE CHEATING TOO.

    It is important also, to keep in mind, especially in light of the fact that Enigma reports everyone, that a business, any business, can not afford to ban paying customers based on accusations that are impossible to prove. Read the 'report' quoted in this post: he accuses another player of 'pulling the plug' and attaches an image (showing nothing) with time stamps.  How is any of this proof of anything? Would you, as a paying customer in any game want to be banned based on this 'evidence?'

    And here is the other side of Enigma: He berates and insults other players constantly. Both in game and in the forums, he treats people badly, to the point of driving other players away from the game. Anyone who doesn't play the game the way Enigma thinks it should be played is subject to the scorn of Enigma and his lapdogs. One need only to read what he has posted here to see the condescension and contempt that Enigma feels for everyone.

    Don't want to fly? Then by Enigma's words, you are a 'plebe' or a 'peasant.' Yes, he actually uses those terms, and not jokingly. He thinks he is clever after a couple of years at FASHION COLLEGE and truly believes he is due more consideration than other players. He honestly believes that he is sowing the seeds of discontent among the volunteers by implying he has one or the other 'on his side.'

    [mod edit]
  • JG26_EnigmaJG26_Enigma NY, NYMember Posts: 21
    I get individual responses all the time. I guess you don't get love with your reports. I rather have action than reports. I'm done being patient and being told something is being done. I am going to kick and scream until something is ACTUALLY done.

    CRS has lost more customers to cheaters. The good competitive players get driven off in the size of entire squads and a few rotten apples stay behind.

    Also you are obviously a peasant ground player if the time stamp in the screenshot AND the stats page isn't enough for you. This is why I call people like you peasants because you are oncapable of thinking for yourself. Go back to the barracks and let the people that know discuss what you don't know.
  • tom_servotom_servo Indianapolis, INMember Posts: 13
    Originally posted by JG26_Enigma
    I get individual responses all the time. I guess you don't get love with your reports. I rather have action than reports. I'm done being patient and being told something is being done. I am going to kick and scream until something is ACTUALLY done.

    CRS has lost more customers to cheaters. The good competitive players get driven off in the size of entire squads and a few rotten apples stay behind.

    Also you are obviously a peasant ground player if the time stamp in the screenshot AND the stats page isn't enough for you. This is why I call people like you peasants because you are oncapable of thinking for yourself. Go back to the barracks and let the people that know discuss what you don't know.

    See what I mean?

    Your 'proof' only shows that

    1) A player logged on at XX:XX (can't read it because the picture is too blurry, but that's immaterial)

    2) They had one kill and no deaths on their previous mission.

    Add to this the fact that it is impractical to make 'plug pulling' a TOS violation, if only due to the vagaries of internet connectivity. If they ban someone everytime they lose connection unexplainedly, soon there will be no one left. Short of a camera, snooping on every single player, and monitored by dozens of staff members, taking up precious bandwidth and storage space, how do you suggest that one would even go about proving 'plug pulling?'

    Even IF someone is pulling the plug, the piece of equipment is still taken out of the battle (supply is limited, on a timer of around 6 hours) as is the player. Mission accomplished. But oh no, poor underpriveleged Enigma loses a kill credit, how sad... Yes, paying customers should be banned so that Enigma doesn't have to feel sad.

    You imagine that the game can not do without you, and again, you are sadly mistaken. You have ruined your own credibility and that of your squad and your loss would only be a breath of fresh air, in that it would allow the staff to focus on real issues instead of putting out the fires you start.

    Plus... You are lying. GMs do not reply to reports from you or anyone else. Do you imagine that  a game with text chat functionality does not have a way to log and review the chats, down to the individual player? You have no idea. You are a spoiled child who has gotten everything he wanted from life, and perhaps for the first time ever, you are being denied. So, you throw a tantrum.

    You are going to kick and scream... until you are perma banned. And that, well, that's just fine by me.

     

  • tom_servotom_servo Indianapolis, INMember Posts: 13
    And, go ahead and reports my posts as spam. It's nice to see you are scared of an opposing, informed viewpoint...
  • JG26_EnigmaJG26_Enigma NY, NYMember Posts: 21
    I did not report it so it's someone else. As mentioned before in another thread I am on my phone and its a bare bones mobile site so I cant report.
  • david06david06 Chantilly, VAMember Posts: 183

    So people are pulling the plug, then getting upset when they're called out on it and running to the mods.

    Tom you just said that it's not cheating and only really affects stats. Well then why can't players talk about it?

    A guy admits to doing it yet a mod jumps in and shuts down the discussion.

  • BodkinBarberBodkinBarber BirminghamMember Posts: 106

    Mods are ground guys, they do not understand air battles and how pilots are able to . If on a very consistent basis they were in a tank and if the enemy player's tank disconnected once they knew they were about to be killed and tankers then they'd be uproar (like with the ALT F5 in time gone by). But because it's air then they don't care. Where are 617 these days? So long for the air game...

     

    I would like to see a link but if the China version, you know, that country with a communist totalatarian regime allows the naming and shaming of players then it is a bit of a hypocrisy that the western version, based in the USA (home of freedom they say) has a forum gestapo that protects the guilty and punishes the innocent.

     

    You can discredit Enigma by going "OMGOD he called people PEASANTS?!?!" but if you go and look at the barracks their are many players on their who are just as disrespectful and tactless as enigma ever was but their allowed free reign. E.g. pilots punished for "slandering" plug pullers but when e.g. ce slanders david06 then that threads all good (and was only taken down once double standards were exposed). If your buddies with XOOM and some GM's, mods etc you can say whatever TOS breaking trallop you want (interested how many pooches will come :) )

     

    I understand the fanboys but I seriously don't get the mods. I would assume only a few of them are a bit on unintelligent side or have personality traits which make them follow some higher body unquestionably but why. Their not helping the community (or whats left of it) by doing what? Deleting threads about subscription pricing (new accounts getting cheaper deals than veteran players aka 3rd degreee price discrimination), exploitive players and blatantly poor development decisions.

     

    CRS and friends are like a castle that over the years the castle has got smaller but the walls around them have become thicker and thicker. When cracks have appeared in their wall like subscriptions going down, squads leaving they patched them up and build the walls even thicker. No change, their way or the highway.

     

    They occasionaly put their heads above the parapet and see the outside world but it's too dynamic for their liking. Losing the support of subscribers if only their 2nd biggest fear, their biggest fear is them admitting their failings and having others say "I told you so".

     

    The mods and CRS are in the same boat, they've made their bed together.

  • tom_servotom_servo Indianapolis, INMember Posts: 13
    Originally posted by BodkinBarber
    Mods are ground guys, they do not understand air battles and how pilots are able to . If on a very consistent basis they were in a tank and if the enemy player's tank disconnected once they knew they were about to be killed and tankers then they'd be uproar (like with the ALT F5 in time gone by). But because it's air then they don't care. Where are 617 these days? So long for the air game...   I would like to see a link but if the China version, you know, that country with a communist totalatarian regime allows the naming and shaming of players then it is a bit of a hypocrisy that the western version, based in the USA (home of freedom they say) has a forum gestapo that protects the guilty and punishes the innocent.   You can discredit Enigma by going "OMGOD he called people PEASANTS?!?!" but if you go and look at the barracks their are many players on their who are just as disrespectful and tactless as enigma ever was but their allowed free reign. E.g. pilots punished for "slandering" plug pullers but when e.g. ce slanders david06 then that threads all good (and was only taken down once double standards were exposed). If your buddies with XOOM and some GM's, mods etc you can say whatever TOS breaking trallop you want (interested how many pooches will come :) )   I understand the fanboys but I seriously don't get the mods. I would assume only a few of them are a bit on unintelligent side or have personality traits which make them follow some higher body unquestionably but why. Their not helping the community (or whats left of it) by doing what? Deleting threads about subscription pricing (new accounts getting cheaper deals than veteran players aka 3rd degreee price discrimination), exploitive players and blatantly poor development decisions.   CRS and friends are like a castle that over the years the castle has got smaller but the walls around them have become thicker and thicker. When cracks have appeared in their wall like subscriptions going down, squads leaving they patched them up and build the walls even thicker. No change, their way or the highway.   They occasionaly put their heads above the parapet and see the outside world but it's too dynamic for their liking. Losing the support of subscribers if only their 2nd biggest fear, their biggest fear is them admitting their failings and having others say "I told you so".   The mods and CRS are in the same boat, they've made their bed together.

    I find it amusingly ironic that a post calling someone else 'unintelligent' is so full of assumptions, paranoia, grammatical errors and spelling errors that it is nearly unreadable.

  • BodkinBarberBodkinBarber BirminghamMember Posts: 106

    You got anything better than calling out a couple of grammar errors? +5 for cliqued put down

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Internet is serious business

  • StugStug Coffee County, TNMember UncommonPosts: 387
    Originally posted by BodkinBarber
    You got anything better than calling out a couple of grammar errors? +5 for cliqued put down

    Says he who posts a thread with one line!

  • BodkinBarberBodkinBarber BirminghamMember Posts: 106
    Originally posted by Stug
    Originally posted by BodkinBarber
    You got anything better than calling out a couple of grammar errors? +5 for cliqued put down

    Says he who posts a thread with one line!

    lol if that is some kind of put down then...well lol how long is your post?

    Anyway, care to attempt to rebutt what I said or is the latest strategy to nit pick grammar errors and the amount of lines used. I wanna here about all the daily 100vs100 battles i'm missing out on lol

  • tom_servotom_servo Indianapolis, INMember Posts: 13
    Originally posted by BodkinBarber
    You got anything better than calling out a couple of grammar errors? +5 for cliqued put down                     Internet is serious business

    Actually, I don't make a habit of calling out the grammar/spelling errors in a post. It's the internet, no big deal.

    However, when a poster goes on a paranoid, rambling, illegible, rant, then calls someone else 'unintelligent,' it tickles my irony meter and I can't help but point it out.

    Cliqued? LOLOL

  • tom_servotom_servo Indianapolis, INMember Posts: 13
    Originally posted by BodkinBarber
    Originally posted by Stug
    Originally posted by BodkinBarber
    You got anything better than calling out a couple of grammar errors? +5 for cliqued put down

    Says he who posts a thread with one line!

    lol if that is some kind of put down then...well lol how long is your post?

    Anyway, care to attempt to rebutt what I said or is the latest strategy to nit pick grammar errors and the amount of lines used. I wanna here about all the daily 100vs100 battles i'm missing out on lol

    I have, by the way, already addressed your pouints. You just don't want to hear the answers.

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