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Drow exclusivity and uncertainty of the control wizard at launch

vmopedvmoped Athens, GAPosts: 1,708Member

FAQ: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?18401-Neverwinter-Extended-FAQ&p=297621&viewfull=1#post297621

Discussion thread on official forum: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?61791-Drow-elf-not-available-for-at-least-60-days-after-release-wizard-future-unsure

There has been a bit of an uproar over the updated FAQ to NWO in which the drow will be exclusive to Hero of the North Founder pack for at least 60 days post launch.  The control wizard is also not listed as one of the launch classes either, leading to forum speculation that it may not initially make launch now.

The good news is the half-orc is confirmed as a playable race for launch.

Cheers!

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  • sea.shellsea.shell SelfossPosts: 63Member

    Can someone please think of the halflings!

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member

    control wizard should in at launch and drow is in for everyone.. the founders pack is an exclusive back story you get not an exclusive race

     

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here.. hafling should be in as well by launch

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  • FARGIN_WARFARGIN_WAR New York, NYPosts: 166Member
    Originally posted by vmoped

    FAQ: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?18401-Neverwinter-Extended-FAQ&p=297621&viewfull=1#post297621

    Discussion thread on official forum: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?61791-Drow-elf-not-available-for-at-least-60-days-after-release-wizard-future-unsure

    There has been a bit of an uproar over the updated FAQ to NWO in which the drow will be exclusive to Hero of the North Founder pack for at least 60 days post launch.  The control wizard is also not listed as one of the launch classes either, leading to forum speculation that it may not initially make launch now.

    The good news is the half-orc is confirmed as a playable race for launch.

    Cheers!

    And the bad news is that since this is Cryptic we are talking about, what you get is literally half an orc. If you want to get the other half you have to buy it in the cash shop. image

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  • LanessarLanessar PALM HARBOR, FLPosts: 87Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    control wizard should in at launch and drow is in for everyone.. the founders pack is an exclusive back story you get not an exclusive race

     

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here.. hafling should be in as well by launch

     

    They're disabling drow for 60 days after launch to maintain the exclusivity of the $200 Founder's pack. Lower-tier Founders also don't have access to the Drow race.

     

    I personally don't give a darn; I'll likely never play one. But since the developers numerous times stated it would be in at launch, in both live streams and in interviews, it's sort of a dumb move.

  • AvanahAvanah Posts: 945Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by sea.shell

    Can someone please think of the halflings!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ERazhGrMI

     

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Lanessar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    control wizard should in at launch and drow is in for everyone.. the founders pack is an exclusive back story you get not an exclusive race

     

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here.. hafling should be in as well by launch

     

    They're disabling drow for 60 days after launch to maintain the exclusivity of the $200 Founder's pack. Lower-tier Founders also don't have access to the Drow race.

     

    I personally don't give a darn; I'll likely never play one. But since the developers numerous times stated it would be in at launch, in both live streams and in interviews, it's sort of a dumb move.

    odd .. well see as haven't heard anything about this in alpha...

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  • LanessarLanessar PALM HARBOR, FLPosts: 87Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Lanessar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    control wizard should in at launch and drow is in for everyone.. the founders pack is an exclusive back story you get not an exclusive race

     

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here.. hafling should be in as well by launch

     

    They're disabling drow for 60 days after launch to maintain the exclusivity of the $200 Founder's pack. Lower-tier Founders also don't have access to the Drow race.

     

    I personally don't give a darn; I'll likely never play one. But since the developers numerous times stated it would be in at launch, in both live streams and in interviews, it's sort of a dumb move.

    odd .. well see as haven't heard anything about this in alpha...

     

    It's been announced on the forums. Updated the FAQ, and the CM confirmed it.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Lanessar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Lanessar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    control wizard should in at launch and drow is in for everyone.. the founders pack is an exclusive back story you get not an exclusive race

     

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here.. hafling should be in as well by launch

     

    They're disabling drow for 60 days after launch to maintain the exclusivity of the $200 Founder's pack. Lower-tier Founders also don't have access to the Drow race.

     

    I personally don't give a darn; I'll likely never play one. But since the developers numerous times stated it would be in at launch, in both live streams and in interviews, it's sort of a dumb move.

    odd .. well see as haven't heard anything about this in alpha...

     

    It's been announced on the forums. Updated the FAQ, and the CM confirmed it.

    i have no interest in playing drow personally as their running animation on female toons looks horid but don't really understand this decision if it ends up being a final one come launch

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • aRtFuLThinGaRtFuLThinG MelbournePosts: 1,134Member Uncommon

    I don't even know why people even wants to play drow...

     

    It will be pretty annoying to see half the population running around with dual scimitars trying to be Dizzt to be honest, lol

  • BrianshoBriansho Woodbridge, VAPosts: 4,779Member Uncommon
    60 days is only two months which is only 8 weeks. 60 days in should give an idea of what people think about the game.

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  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Lanessar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Lanessar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    control wizard should in at launch and drow is in for everyone.. the founders pack is an exclusive back story you get not an exclusive race

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here.. hafling should be in as well by launch

    They're disabling drow for 60 days after launch to maintain the exclusivity of the $200 Founder's pack. Lower-tier Founders also don't have access to the Drow race.

    I personally don't give a darn; I'll likely never play one. But since the developers numerous times stated it would be in at launch, in both live streams and in interviews, it's sort of a dumb move.

    odd .. well see as haven't heard anything about this in alpha...

    It's been announced on the forums. Updated the FAQ, and the CM confirmed it.

    i have no interest in playing drow personally as their running animation on female toons looks horid but don't really understand this decision if it ends up being a final one come launch

    They are milking Drow fans for all they can get away with.. and since this game is tied to Salvatores Drizzt books, Drow lovers are probably thier primary audience.

    In other words, they know thier fans want to play Drow's and they are taking advantage of that.

    I think it's disgusting personally.. but I won't lose sleep over it.

  • tenebrusmke7tenebrusmke7 Milwaukee, WIPosts: 4Member

    There seems to be a discrepency in the reporting of this situation. On the Neverwinter forums, where the Extended FAQ are, it clearly states that only the Menzo-Renegade Drow will be exclusive to the Founder's pack, the regular Drow will be available to everyone at post-launch.

    Source: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?18401-Neverwinter-Extended-FAQ&p=297621&viewfull=1#post297621

    Additional information from the linked post:

    All the available races at launch will be free. We are planning to release the regular Drow for free post-launch (after at least 60 days to allow for Founder's Pack exclusivity). Note that only the regular Drow race will become available; the Menzoberranzen Renegade will always remain exclusive to Hero of the North Pack purchases.

  • vmopedvmoped Athens, GAPosts: 1,708Member

    What is funny in this thread is how many people posted without even reading the OP, and constantly restated what I put in the original post as if it wasn't there.... my my...

    Cheers!

    MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by vmoped

    What is funny in this thread is how many people posted without even reading the OP, and constantly restated what I put in the original post as if it wasn't there.... my my...

    Cheers!

    i read OP but source i got says something else so i dunno things may or may not change we shall see... i'd expect control wizard to be in by launch.. but again nothing is set in stone till launch

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • tenebrusmke7tenebrusmke7 Milwaukee, WIPosts: 4Member


    Originally posted by vmoped

    What is funny in this thread is how many people posted without even reading the OP, and constantly restated what I put in the original post as if it wasn't there.... my my...

    Cheers!


     You said that the drow would be exclusive to the Founder's Pack, however, you failed to mention which drow would be exclusive to the Founder's Pack. You just made it sound as those the Drow in general would be made exclusive to the founder's pack which is an all-out lie. The Regular Drow will be available FOR FREE at the same time as the Menzo-Renegade Drow (which will always remain an exclusive race to the Founder's pack).
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus BaatorPosts: 1,116Member Uncommon

    Regular Drow will be available free to all after 60 days.  This happened because of  some wording which has since been corrected in the hero package.

    This is mostly shady lawyer manouvering and marketing, that is all.  What Hero founders get isn't a race but a background, the menzo renegade,  the regular drow race is being held for 60 days to :

     

    A - encourage Hero founders sale and

    B - avoid legal shenanigans as this way they can claim Heros founder got the drow race exclusively for 60 days.

     

     

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  • RednecksithRednecksith Madison heights, MIPosts: 1,238Member
    Originally posted by Vannor
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Lanessar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Lanessar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    control wizard should in at launch and drow is in for everyone.. the founders pack is an exclusive back story you get not an exclusive race

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here.. hafling should be in as well by launch

    They're disabling drow for 60 days after launch to maintain the exclusivity of the $200 Founder's pack. Lower-tier Founders also don't have access to the Drow race.

    I personally don't give a darn; I'll likely never play one. But since the developers numerous times stated it would be in at launch, in both live streams and in interviews, it's sort of a dumb move.

    odd .. well see as haven't heard anything about this in alpha...

    It's been announced on the forums. Updated the FAQ, and the CM confirmed it.

    i have no interest in playing drow personally as their running animation on female toons looks horid but don't really understand this decision if it ends up being a final one come launch

    They are milking Drow fans for all they can get away with.. and since this game is tied to Salvatores Drizzt books, Drow lovers are probably thier primary audience.

    In other words, they know thier fans want to play Drow's and they are taking advantage of that.

    I think it's disgusting personally.. but I won't lose sleep over it.

    Really? Ugh, I HATE Drizzt Do'MarySue with the anger of a thousand Daleks. Just absolutely cannot stand him. I kill him every time he appears in a D&D game (CRPG or PnP), regardless of my character's alignment. I will find a way for a freaking paladin to justify murdering him and his little kitty-cat companion, and burning their dismembered corpses afterward.

    And no, I'm not a huge fan of Salvatore overall either. Bah!

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by vmoped

    What is funny in this thread is how many people posted without even reading the OP, and constantly restated what I put in the original post as if it wasn't there.... my my...

    Cheers!

    i read OP but source i got says something else so i dunno things may or may not change we shall see... i'd expect control wizard to be in by launch.. but again nothing is set in stone till launch

    This is what the Faq linked to says.  I highlighted the important part in red, which is what the OP is talking about.

     

    What Races are available in Neverwinter?

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, Halfling, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here. Please note that Menzo-Renegade Drow will be exclusive toHero of the North Pack purchasers, while regular drow will become available for everyone after 60 days post-launch.


    Will it cost ZEN to unlock additional Races and Classes?

    All the available races at launch will be free. We are planning to release the regular Drow for free post-launch (after at least 60 days to allow for Founder's Pack exclusivity). Note that only the regular Drow race will become available; the Menzoberranzen Renegade will always remain exclusive to Hero of the North Pack purchases.

    Details regarding additional classes and races should be announced soon!

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by niceguy3978
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by vmoped

    What is funny in this thread is how many people posted without even reading the OP, and constantly restated what I put in the original post as if it wasn't there.... my my...

    Cheers!

    i read OP but source i got says something else so i dunno things may or may not change we shall see... i'd expect control wizard to be in by launch.. but again nothing is set in stone till launch

    This is what the Faq linked to says.  I highlighted the important part in red, which is what the OP is talking about.

     

    What Races are available in Neverwinter?

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, Halfling, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here. Please note that Menzo-Renegade Drow will be exclusive toHero of the North Pack purchasers, while regular drow will become available for everyone after 60 days post-launch.


    Will it cost ZEN to unlock additional Races and Classes?

    All the available races at launch will be free. We are planning to release the regular Drow for free post-launch (after at least 60 days to allow for Founder's Pack exclusivity). Note that only the regular Drow race will become available; the Menzoberranzen Renegade will always remain exclusive to Hero of the North Pack purchases.

    Details regarding additional classes and races should be announced soon!

    Yea i know I read the faq... but faqs and stuff changes.. so won't know for sure till launch

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  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by niceguy3978
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by vmoped

    What is funny in this thread is how many people posted without even reading the OP, and constantly restated what I put in the original post as if it wasn't there.... my my...

    Cheers!

    i read OP but source i got says something else so i dunno things may or may not change we shall see... i'd expect control wizard to be in by launch.. but again nothing is set in stone till launch

    This is what the Faq linked to says.  I highlighted the important part in red, which is what the OP is talking about.

     

    What Races are available in Neverwinter?

    The current options are Human, Elf, Half-Elf, Tiefling, Drow, Dwarf, Halfling, and Half-Orc. For full descriptions and pictures, check out our Races page here. Please note that Menzo-Renegade Drow will be exclusive toHero of the North Pack purchasers, while regular drow will become available for everyone after 60 days post-launch.


    Will it cost ZEN to unlock additional Races and Classes?

    All the available races at launch will be free. We are planning to release the regular Drow for free post-launch (after at least 60 days to allow for Founder's Pack exclusivity). Note that only the regular Drow race will become available; the Menzoberranzen Renegade will always remain exclusive to Hero of the North Pack purchases.

    Details regarding additional classes and races should be announced soon!

    Yea i know I read the faq... but faqs and stuff changes.. so won't know for sure till launch

    Well you said the OP source said something else, so I was pointing out that it says what he claims it said.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by niceguy3978
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
     

    Well you said the OP source said something else, so I was pointing out that it says what he claims it said.

    nope read again I said "my" source:)

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  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Niagara Falls, NYPosts: 3,437Member Uncommon

    Don't see the big deal. It is a F2P game after all. An exlusive race for 60 days with a $200 founders pack is not exactly horrible.

    Why do people always focus on what they are not getting for free, rather than what they are?

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  • jdnycjdnyc Long Island City, NYPosts: 1,696Member
    Originally posted by Fendel84M

    Don't see the big deal. It is a F2P game after all. An exlusive race for 60 days with a $200 founders pack is not exactly horrible.

    Why do people always focus on what they are not getting for free, rather than what they are?

    Exactly.  

    I just wish they would lead with the information rather than changing mid-stream.  Which is what they are kind of doing right now.

  • Asm0deusAsm0deus BaatorPosts: 1,116Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jdnyc
    Originally posted by Fendel84M

    Don't see the big deal. It is a F2P game after all. An exlusive race for 60 days with a $200 founders pack is not exactly horrible.

    Why do people always focus on what they are not getting for free, rather than what they are?

    Exactly.  

    I just wish they would lead with the information rather than changing mid-stream.  Which is what they are kind of doing right now.

    It's not such a big deal but then some people bought the 60$ pack with the knowledge that the drow race was free from the start like the other races. The mods even pointed out that hero purchaser got the menzo background exclusivity and that the drow race was free.  There never was mention of the drow race being exclusive to hero packs for 60 days.

    Like I said previously this is either a very shady marketing technique or lawyer manouvering for shitty wording in the heros pack.

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  • DragonfishDragonfish Pleasant Prairie, WIPosts: 12Member

    Just to clarify, there is a new sticky on the official forums. They spelled it out in plain english finally so people stop arguing.

     

    1. The Drow race will NOT be available to anyone but the $200 Hero package owners for  AT LEAST 60 days. This does not mean the backstory, but the ENTIRE RACE. Not even the $60 Guardian package owners can play Drow.

    2. They made this decision internally some time ago, and decided not to make it public because they KNEW it would be an unpopular decision. This is their words, not mine.

     

    Yes, this is a free to play game but as other posters already mentioned, Cryptic has stated numerous times in the past that the Drow race would be available free at launch to all players. Now they are at it again with typical cryptic crap (STO Klingon anyone?) and I know it's just going to get worse. I was actually going to give them $60 just to support the game but after this I'll have a really hard time coughing up the cash.

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