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Q4 results released: Worst sales $ in the history of the company

Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLPosts: 4,491Member Uncommon

Article can be found here: http://mmofallout.com/2013/02/21/star-vault-releases-q4-income/#comment-22332

Lowest sales since the game launched.  Biggest quarterly loss of the year.

 

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • ShyaticShyatic Hell, NJPosts: 41Member

    I don't think anybody else finds this surprising at all.

     

    Guess the donations aren't cutting it, eh?

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLPosts: 4,491Member Uncommon

    Well according to the article they lost $140k in the quarter.   I think if you add up the 3 months of donations they are about $10k...

    and ALL of that money was supposed to be spent on external contract work so it should have no impact on the loss whatsoever...

     

     

     

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • GreymoorGreymoor ManchesterPosts: 801Member
    It's a good job MO has loyal followers like you then, isn't it slapshot :)
  • Abuz0rAbuz0r Lexington, KYPosts: 354Member Uncommon
    A little bit of reading into this game steered me away from it.  I became convinced based on user reviews its P2W.
  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Beaumont, CAPosts: 1,516Member Uncommon

    wait someone actually even bought this game during the last quarter?

     

  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    It keeps getting better, so much for the "population surging". image
  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Well according to the article they lost $140k in the quarter. 

     

     

    How does SV even have $140,000+ (plus income) in quarterly operating costs with only 2-3 part-time employees? I'm convinced Mortal Online is noting but a tax shelter for Henriks father.

     

     

     

    Starvaults "lost" well over $1,000,000 since release, give me a break.

  • JacxolopeJacxolope Jackson, MIPosts: 924Member
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Well according to the article they lost $140k in the quarter. 

     

     

    How does SV even have $140,000+ (plus income) in quarterly operating costs with only 2-3 part-time employees? I'm convinced Mortal Online is noting but a tax shelter for Henriks father.

     

     

     

    Starvaults "lost" well over $1,000,000 since release, give me a break.

    Okay, speculation aside (I know nothing about Hnrick or his father-) I agree... How the hell could there be $140000 loss with the amount of devs? How is that even realistic? 

    I didnt expect they were making much but a loss anything seems odd since they get subs + donations and have to have a low overhead...Weird.

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon
    f2p will save it.

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  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    f2p will save it.

    Clearly image

  • Darth_OsorDarth_Osor Mt Laurel, NJPosts: 1,089Member

    "Overall, according to the report, the model has compensated for the loss of license sales and Star Vault has seen positive development in all areas."

     

    How does less income and more loss of money than last quarter translate into above statement?  I R confused.

     

    $72,000 USD in a quarter would translate to approximately 1600 subscribers on average AT BEST, assuming no other income other than subs, and assuming the donations don't count as income.  LOL

  • deathshrouddeathshroud londonPosts: 1,366Member

    henrik responds on offical forums...

     

    "We became today's stock company winner the minutes after we release the report, due to we went positive for the first time for a good time. The report goes back so it shows the change from going f2p, which now is very positive and been very successful.

    Just to clear out any confusions looking on earlier months."

     

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/star-vault-releases-quarter-4-income.84956/

    there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  • MightyChasmMightyChasm londonPosts: 298Member
    The original game was flawed, horribly flawed, why would I buy inot the new one?
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLPosts: 4,491Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by deathshroud

    henrik responds on offical forums... "We became today's stock company winner the minutes after we release the report, due to we went positive for the first time for a good time. The report goes back so it shows the change from going f2p, which now is very positive and been very successful.

    Just to clear out any confusions looking on earlier months." http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/star-vault-releases-quarter-4-income.84956/

     

    Just to shine some light on his statement... the total value of the stock trades he mentioned was about $2800...

    Oh and BTW as of this moment the stock lost 20% today.

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • dinamsdinams Muriae, VAPosts: 1,362Member

    MO is a money laundry business for henrik father

    Its obvious, no company would have survived after this long 

    "It has potential"
    -Second most used phrase on existence
    "It sucks"
    -Most used phrase on existence

  • MightyChasmMightyChasm londonPosts: 298Member
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by deathshroud

    henrik responds on offical forums...

     

    "We became today's stock company winner the minutes after we release the report, due to we went positive for the first time for a good time. The report goes back so it shows the change from going f2p, which now is very positive and been very successful.

    Just to clear out any confusions looking on earlier months."

     

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/star-vault-releases-quarter-4-income.84956/

     

    Just to shine some light on his statement... the total value of the stock trades he mentioned was about $2800... Oh and BTW as of this moment the stock lost 20% today.

    So you mean, 'thank fuck I did not buy any' ?

  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    Originally posted by deathshroud

    henrik responds on offical forums...

     

    "We became today's stock company winner the minutes after we release the report, due to we went positive for the first time for a good time. The report goes back so it shows the change from going f2p, which now is very positive and been very successful.

    Just to clear out any confusions looking on earlier months."

     

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/star-vault-releases-quarter-4-income.84956/

    Yet today Starvault once again topped the daily LOSER chart. http://www.aktietorget.se/Default.aspx?Language=2

    Its now back to its past 3 month average and falling.

    Keep spinning Henrik...image

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    f2p will save it.

    Clearly image

     Your sarcasm detector needs recalibrating.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLPosts: 4,491Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by deathshroud

    henrik responds on offical forums...

     

    "We became today's stock company winner the minutes after we release the report, due to we went positive for the first time for a good time. The report goes back so it shows the change from going f2p, which now is very positive and been very successful.

    Just to clear out any confusions looking on earlier months."

     

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/star-vault-releases-quarter-4-income.84956/

    Yet today Starvault once again topped the daily LOSER chart. http://www.aktietorget.se/Default.aspx?Language=2

    Its now back to its past 3 month average and falling.

    Keep spinning Henrik...image

     Since that link will be outdated tomorrow here is a screenshot showing what you are talking about:

    image

     

    And here is the stock chart:

    image

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by deathshroud

    henrik responds on offical forums...

     

    "We became today's stock company winner the minutes after we release the report, due to we went positive for the first time for a good time. The report goes back so it shows the change from going f2p, which now is very positive and been very successful.

    Just to clear out any confusions looking on earlier months."

     

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/star-vault-releases-quarter-4-income.84956/

    Yet today Starvault once again topped the daily LOSER chart. http://www.aktietorget.se/Default.aspx?Language=2

    Its now back to its past 3 month average and falling.

    Keep spinning Henrik...image

     Since that link will be outdated tomorrow here is a screenshot showing what you are talking about:

    image

     

    And here is the stock chart:

    image

    Good call for posterity and to show the difference between fact and fiction. image

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLPosts: 4,491Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by deathshroud

    henrik responds on offical forums...

     

    "We became today's stock company winner the minutes after we release the report, due to we went positive for the first time for a good time. The report goes back so it shows the change from going f2p, which now is very positive and been very successful.

    Just to clear out any confusions looking on earlier months."

     

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/star-vault-releases-quarter-4-income.84956/

     Funny conversation in that thread as they are now doing the simple math and realizing that to break even it seems they have to double their current number of subs...

     

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • SukiyakiSukiyaki GreenwichPosts: 1,398Member Uncommon

    How can you even run an company like that? 

    2 years of losses as great as your sales?

  • RefMinorRefMinor MyTownPosts: 3,452Member
    Originally posted by Abuz0r
    A little bit of reading into this game steered me away from it.  I became convinced based on user reviews its P2W.

    How is it P2W?

  • psykobillypsykobilly NYC, NYPosts: 338Member
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by Abuz0r
    A little bit of reading into this game steered me away from it.  I became convinced based on user reviews its P2W.

    How is it P2W?

    It is pay2win because the free acount you can create has a cap on skill of 60.  This means that anyone with a paid account will out damage a free account to a massive extent, and also out sprint (movement speed and damage output being the two most important things in game).

    What they could have done to make it not pay2win was simply cap the total points so a free account could have say 8 skills at 100 while a paid account could have 12 skills at 100 (as an example).  That would make it so the free account has a chance in combat, but is still not a fully fleshed out character.

    Basically capping skills at 60 was shortcut so SV doesn't have to monitor free accounts.  If they allowed 100 skill free accounts they would actually have to do some work to make sure the same people weren't making free accounts over and over again.  It's sheer laziness on SV's part - so they chose the pay2win model to make it easier.

     

  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    f2p will save it.

    Correction: It will save P2P games from having been in the same category as MO when it finally dies.

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