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andre369andre369 .Posts: 948Member Uncommon

So, I check on these forums once in a while and since we got the sub forums + the actual release of the game > Which in my experience has led to this forum being dead. 

I check in and I see a couple of new threads and check them out. A week later I stop by and the same threads are still on top. 

This is what I feel so I'll make a vote and see if you guys agree. 

 

If you say yes, I would like to know why. I see no positive things in having them.  Take a look at the main page, 3 threads have the last post 6 days ago, 2 threads are closed. IMO that says enough. 

 

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    launch chatter has died down so yea i'd say sub-forums could go now

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  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    Well, since you were one of the 'trolls and haters' for other games, I guess there is such a thing as karma.

    Not much to really say right now since ANet has responded (at least in words) on what the issues with GW2 is and how they will fix them this year.

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  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    Well, since you were one of the 'trolls and haters' for other games, I guess there is such a thing as karma.

    Not much to really say right now since ANet has responded (at least in words) on what the issues with GW2 is and how they will fix them this year.

     

    Atleast I spoke the truth can't say the same for GW2 trolls and haters.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    Well, since you were one of the 'trolls and haters' for other games, I guess there is such a thing as karma.

    Not much to really say right now since ANet has responded (at least in words) on what the issues with GW2 is and how they will fix them this year.

     

    Atleast I spoke the truth can't say the same for GW2 trolls and haters.

     Everyone always believes their OPINIONS are facts this is one way the trolls and haters live well with themselves, because after all they are just stating facts.

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 20,008Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    Well, since you were one of the 'trolls and haters' for other games, I guess there is such a thing as karma.

    Not much to really say right now since ANet has responded (at least in words) on what the issues with GW2 is and how they will fix them this year.

     

    Atleast I spoke the truth can't say the same for GW2 trolls and haters.

    "Truth" is very subjective at the end of the day, not to be confused with the term "fact", which can be quite a different thing.

    Back to the OP, what else is there really to say about GW2 now that hasn't already been said. Activity will remain low as it is on all other forums until the next release/event/patch that pisses everyone off happens and activity will pick up.

    Attention has now turned to the next big thing on the horizon, with titles such as TESO, DFUW, Defiance, and a host of other new titles  which all hold the promise of "fullfulling" the dream of a host of players. 

    GW2 is know well known and has either satisfied you or disappointed you, but there's not much else to say.

     

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  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    Well, since you were one of the 'trolls and haters' for other games, I guess there is such a thing as karma.

    Not much to really say right now since ANet has responded (at least in words) on what the issues with GW2 is and how they will fix them this year.

     

    Atleast I spoke the truth can't say the same for GW2 trolls and haters.

    "Truth" is very subjective at the end of the day, not to be confused with the term "fact", which can be quite a different thing.

     

    Not really and lets leave it that because that statment is typical forum pvp agrument.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • ScalplessScalpless SnowballvillePosts: 1,396Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Back to the OP, what else is there really to say about GW2 now that hasn't already been said. Activity will remain low as it is on all other forums until the next release/event/patch that pisses everyone off happens and activity will pick up.

    Attention has now turned to the next big thing on the horizon, with titles such as TESO, DFUW, Defiance, and a host of other new titles  which all hold the promise of "fullfulling" the dream of a host of players. 

    GW2 is know well known and has either satisfied you or disappointed you, but there's not much else to say.

    There's class balance, helping newbies and so on. The problem is that all threads that discuss specific classes are moved to the class subforums, which no one views. We've got class forums (separate for each class, mind you), PvE forums,PvP forums, impressions forums... That leaves this forum with threads about GW2's financial situation and ANet's modding, neither of which is an interesting subject.

  • OmnifishOmnifish LondonPosts: 616Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    Well, since you were one of the 'trolls and haters' for other games, I guess there is such a thing as karma.

    Not much to really say right now since ANet has responded (at least in words) on what the issues with GW2 is and how they will fix them this year.

     

    Atleast I spoke the truth can't say the same for GW2 trolls and haters.

    "Truth" is very subjective at the end of the day, not to be confused with the term "fact", which can be quite a different thing.

     

    Not really and lets leave it that because that statment is typical forum pvp agrument.

    Yes it is there's no, 'not really', about it.  Your views on whether a company should, 'die', because you don't like a game but that people who don't like your favorite game GW2 should leave it alone are just subjective opinions.

    [mod edit]

    As for the OP, changing any subforums will not increase activity here.  Games had it's long period of frenzied activity before release, people now move onto the next thing, that's the nature of things.  The only time that changes is when a company screws up badly, (SOE/SWG for example), or some change is announced and the few who are still interested and frequent this forum will discuss it.

    You may really like GW2 and enjoy playing it now, but it's overhyping period is done and that means most people aren't interested in discussing what it could be, the potential, when possibilites are endless.  We've had the same thing with many games here, game gets built up from marketing, people get whipped up into frothing forum wars, game releases, period of activity...then everyone moves onto, 'the next big thing'.

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  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by Omnifish
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    Well, since you were one of the 'trolls and haters' for other games, I guess there is such a thing as karma.

    Not much to really say right now since ANet has responded (at least in words) on what the issues with GW2 is and how they will fix them this year.

     

    Atleast I spoke the truth can't say the same for GW2 trolls and haters.

    "Truth" is very subjective at the end of the day, not to be confused with the term "fact", which can be quite a different thing.

     

    Not really and lets leave it that because that statment is typical forum pvp agrument.

    [mod edit]

     

    [mod edit]
    [mod edit]

      but back to the topic I'd say the sub forums are not helping GW2 any now that some of the hype (and hate) has faded. better to have 1-2 active forums then 5 semi dead ones IMO.

  • NightgroperNightgroper Aunt Em''s, NEPosts: 76Member
    No it's not really trolling, but quite tiresome to read the same crap spewed from the same people, that somehow post in a majority of threads, about a game that they hate.  It's pretty much the reason I don't really come to the forums on this site anymore because most times I do, I find the most jaded and cynical creatures unwilling to allow someone else have some enjoyment. It's fairly disgusting to watch.

    The more I'm around the forums on this site, the more bitter I become.

  • RoxtarrRoxtarr Freeland, MI, MIPosts: 1,122Member
    If someone has something to say but goes, "Uhhh, sub forums? I'm not posting." Probably didn't have anything worth posting in the first place.  I don't see how sub-forums can slow down posting.  I think posting about GW2 has changed since launch.

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  • AzureProwerAzurePrower AustraliaPosts: 1,508Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Roxtarr
    If someone has something to say but goes, "Uhhh, sub forums? I'm not posting." Probably didn't have anything worth posting in the first place.  I don't see how sub-forums can slow down posting.  I think posting about GW2 has changed since launch.

    Probably the reason why they don't want to post on the sub forums is because no one wants to go to the sub forums. Thus there is little discussion to be had there.

    Sub forums should indeed go.

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,549Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    This is of course the main reason why less and less interesting people are posting here. I've seen plenty of constructive posters leave because if that.

    And not only they get away with it, but one of the favorite sport of some of them (you know who you are...) is to "stirr the pot", and then report the legit players who dare to question the stupidities and misinformation they posted... and the sad part is that the moderators punish the legit players, not the trolls who don't even play anymore or who have never played at all.

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  • dimnikardimnikar ZanistanvillePosts: 271Member

    Implying you can only participate in a videogame discussion if you're actively playing the game. How narrow minded.

     

    The only reason forum activity went down is that there's not much of interest left to discuss.

  • tordurbartordurbar Alexandria, VAPosts: 429Member Uncommon
    GW2 is still at the top of "Most Popular Games" on this site but the hype has passed and the numbers (in terms of posts in GW2 forums) are way down. Time to do what dying games do - consolidate.  [Just joking about the dying :]
  • LeucentLeucent Penticton, BCPosts: 2,371Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    I don't post as much as I used to on this forum due to the trolls and haters tend to derail every topic there is and get away with it.

    Well, since you were one of the 'trolls and haters' for other games, I guess there is such a thing as karma.

    Not much to really say right now since ANet has responded (at least in words) on what the issues with GW2 is and how they will fix them this year.

     

    Atleast I spoke the truth can't say the same for GW2 trolls and haters.

    "Truth" is very subjective at the end of the day, not to be confused with the term "fact", which can be quite a different thing.

     

    Not really and lets leave it that because that statment is typical forum pvp agrument.

    Sad, really.

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,549Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    Implying you can only participate in a videogame discussion if you're actively playing the game. How narrow minded.

    There's a difference between "discussion" and "propagating misinformation and lies to bash a game and provoque negative reactions from its players". Apparently I'm not narrow minded enough since I'm able to understand that. People who come back over and over again just to post the same negative troll crap almost every day have nothing to do here - they obviously don't like the game, and if they were acting maturely and without hidden troll agenda, they would just "let it go".

    Saying you dislike a game a couple of times, explaining why, then leaving = sane, adult behavior.

    Coming back over and over again, bashing the game, months after you've stopped playing it = troll behavior.

    For instance... I didn't like "Age of Wushu"... I made like half a dozen (6) posts on the forums explaining why, and not just "the game sux it's doomed!" kind of crap either. And then I left! Yeah, what a weird behavior, I left the forum of a video game I don't like, letting its player talk about it with each other in peace without being disrupted.

    EDIT: I actually only made 3 posts on the AoW forum before I "let it go". Even less than I thought.

    But some people just can't let it go. Just like some fanatic preacher, they can't stop until everybody agrees with them that the game is bad, and also doomed to failure, all this spiced up with some lies and misformation to "stir the pot". Of course, everybody agreeing with them will never happen, so they stay, stuck on the forum like parasites, like leeches, ruining it for those who actually have a real interest in the game.

    If some guy comes to a restaurant he hates each day, stands in the middle, and shouts how much the food sucks and the prices are too high, he's gonna get booted big time. Too bad the same simple rule doesn't apply to these forums, it would make them much better places for those who actually care about the games they talk about.

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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog SPosts: 1,125Member Uncommon
    I don't know about you but I normally post here on mmorpg only when the game don't ahve a offical forum, after launch why I will spend my time on here if I can use it to the offcial forums?

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  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 18,030Member Uncommon
    I dont really see the point of separating the forums like this, no.
  • KanethKaneth Posts: 1,930Member Uncommon

    I would say that merging the PvE, Crafting, and Professions forum into general discussion would be good. You could keep Reviews, PvP and the Official Guild Forums separate still.

    To be honest, the chat here is pretty similar to what the WoW forum used to look like. Just a bunch of polarizing comments, with a few good threads every now and again. The trolling level on this site is pretty ridiculous on many of the game specific forums, which I would imagine makes many folks just visit alternative sites for specific games.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member

    The forum is "dead" for a multitide of reasons, splitting categories is only one.

     

    The game was hot when it released 6 months ago.  Since since the forum was kept alive with people who hated the dumbing down of MMORPG's, and the champions of how non-player-interactive quests are exciting.

     

    It seems the majority of either group has moved on to greener pastures.  Fans are at an all-time low, taken from over the past 2 years, and conversely, those who gave the warning signs or otherwise gave critical reviews also have moved on.

     

    The end result is the inevitable silence that follows.

     

    I personally found GW2 to be an interesting "throwaway themepark" style game.  I played it, and now can't even be bothered to log on for special events.  More of the same is not my bag.  I may break my silence with this very post, but it won't happen very often (from me or speculatively, others).

     

    It wasn't that good.

     

     

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  • Rthuth434Rthuth434 uniondale, NYPosts: 346Member

     

     

     

     

     

    Right. If that's dead then what is alive?

  • KanethKaneth Posts: 1,930Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Karteli

    The forum is "dead" for a multitide of reasons, splitting categories is only one.

     

    The game was hot when it released 6 months ago.  Since since the forum was kept alive with people who hated the dumbing down of MMORPG's, and the champions of how non-player-interactive quests are exciting.

     

    It seems the majority of either group has moved on to greener pastures.  Fans are at an all-time low, taken from over the past 2 years, and conversely, those who gave the warning signs or otherwise gave critical reviews also have moved on.

     

    The end result is the inevitable silence that follows.

     

    I personally found GW2 to be an interesting "throwaway themepark" style game.  I played it, and now can't even be bothered to log on for special events.  More of the same is not my bag.  I may break my silence with this very post, but it won't happen very often (from me or speculatively, others).

     

    It wasn't that good.

     

     

    Fans might be at an all time low on this particular forum, however, the community is very active on other sites. I've noticed that on this site individual game forums are active for a period before release and then about 3-4 months after the release. Then that forum seems to normalize. When I come to the GW2 forums here, I tend to follow a link from the front page and then comment. Other than that, I stick to The Pub. It seems reasonable that others might have the same patterns.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Rthuth434

     

     

     

     

     

    Right. If that's dead then what is alive?

    People wondering where this game is going .. where their money went?

     

    Web traffic tells nothing, and is inaccurate.

     

    Overall game usage is down though, unless every realm is quiet because 90% of players are inside instances.

     

    [alternate answer - all the social people who found the game anti-social left.  This game used to be bumping with chat, now few talk - any nobody responds]

     

    GW2 was largely designed to be anti-social from the start.  Quality gamers complained, and fans tore critics a new one.  Now fans get their wish and talkers went away.

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