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Well this isn't the best MMO evar but........

azzamasinazzamasin Butler, OHPosts: 3,066Member Uncommon

Well this isn't the best MMO ever but I love how they concentrate on only a few specific systems.

 

If you're looking for a deep meaningful MMO with all the bells and whistles then this will never be "that" game.  However if all you are looking for out of an MMO is content, content, content then we might have a winner.  So far after 13 straight hours of playing I have never seen an MMO that is devoted to delivering content at a blistering pace.  It's highly unlikely the game Cryptic has going here will ever fail to impress on the content front and I do not ever see anyone ever saying things like: "Man that game was fun but it had no end-game".  Just wont happen with the Foundry system and the plethora of developer content driven systems in NWO.

 

I'll save my exploration kicks for other MMO's but for now, the thing that has always gotten me to quit is a lack of content and getting bored...not so in NWO!

Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

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  • gillrmngillrmn ArnhemPosts: 250Member
    Foundry has some really deep content - with very deep lore and sandbox like experimental quests...
  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    don't think anyone expects this to be the best MMO eva:P but as long as combat is fun, classes are enjoyable, and foundry is well fleshed out i think it will have some good potential for many many hours of enjoyment

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • SuperNickSuperNick CambridgePosts: 460Member
    bout what i expected - an OK game for free to play that might burn a few hours.
  • silverreignsilverreign Whitehouse, TXPosts: 401Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Well this isn't the best MMO ever but I love how they concentrate on only a few specific systems. If you're looking for a deep meaningful MMO with all the bells and whistles then this will never be "that" game.  However if all you are looking for out of an MMO is content, content, content then we might have a winner.  So far after 13 straight hours of playing I have never seen an MMO that is devoted to delivering content at a blistering pace.  It's highly unlikely the game Cryptic has going here will ever fail to impress on the content front and I do not ever see anyone ever saying things like: "Man that game was fun but it had no end-game".  Just wont happen with the Foundry system and the plethora of developer content driven systems in NWO. I'll save my exploration kicks for other MMO's but for now, the thing that has always gotten me to quit is a lack of content and getting bored...not so in NWO!
    13 straight hours?

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by silverreign

     



    13 straight hours?

     

    in my younger days i used to be able t knock out 13 straight hours in a MMO no problem.. especially new ones that I was testing for the first time...

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • Rider071Rider071 Utica, NYPosts: 318Member

    Quick question, the content you have played so far, was it all dev written? or have you gone through anything player made (maybe tester made) through the foundry yet?

    I know it's way early, but it seems you have seen alot so far. Which of course that's what this is all for 8)

     

  • GhavriggGhavrigg Halifax, NSPosts: 775Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by silverreign

     



    13 straight hours?

     

    in my younger days i used to be able t knock out 13 straight hours in a MMO no problem.. especially new ones that I was testing for the first time...

    When he said that, I was thinking more along the lines of "ALL MMO's have lots of content for well beyond 13 hours of play." Somehow 13 hours doesn't seem like enough time to judge whether there's an incredible amount of content or not.

  • silverreignsilverreign Whitehouse, TXPosts: 401Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by silverreign  
    13 straight hours?  
    in my younger days i used to be able t knock out 13 straight hours in a MMO no problem.. especially new ones that I was testing for the first time...

    i could do the same if i tried but why play so much of the game in beta only to get burned out at launch. i guess im different. i dont want to know too much before launch. i got in the beta of swtor and only played to lvl 5. i wanted it all to be new.

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Aviggin
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by silverreign

     



    13 straight hours?

     

    in my younger days i used to be able t knock out 13 straight hours in a MMO no problem.. especially new ones that I was testing for the first time...

    When he said that, I was thinking more along the lines of "ALL MMO's have lots of content for well beyond 13 hours of play." Somehow 13 hours doesn't seem like enough time to judge whether there's an incredible amount of content or not.

    ahh yea i see.. i agree but with the foundry you do basically have an unlimited amount of content as long as players keep making it

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by silverreign

     


    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    Originally posted by silverreign  


    13 straight hours?  
    in my younger days i used to be able t knock out 13 straight hours in a MMO no problem.. especially new ones that I was testing for the first time...
    i could do the same if i tried but why play so much of the game in beta only to get burned out at launch. i guess im different. i dont want to know too much before launch. i got in the beta of swtor and only played to lvl 5. i wanted it all to be new.

     

    if its a game i enjoy i put that much time in beta to test the game and try to give feedback on bugs and such(assumed thats what CB was for) not to just have an early "preview" of the game..

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • HorrorScopeHorrorScope Norcal, CAPosts: 612Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
     

    if its a game i enjoy i put that much time in beta to test the game and try to give feedback on bugs and such(assumed thats what CB was for) not to just have an early "preview" of the game..

     

    If there were a mmo hall of fame, I WOULD nominate you, why because I don't see them saint'ing mmo players any time soon, otherwise I'd nominate you for that. I jest. :)

     

    Another reason to play beta hard, is to learn exploits and race yourself to the top before the nerfs come to where you can never be touched. Now I don't say this negatively to you, but to every stupid mmo that falls for this over and over. You would think having tight slots out of the gate would make more sense, so exploits there doesn't make a 1% group for life and as they learn how the base is doing, then loosen it up, so the entire base enjoys the liberal offerings. But no, it will always be, get in first to get ungodly wealth before we snip those lines forever...

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by HorrorScope
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
     

    if its a game i enjoy i put that much time in beta to test the game and try to give feedback on bugs and such(assumed thats what CB was for) not to just have an early "preview" of the game..

     

    If there were a mmo hall of fame, I won't nominate you, why because I don't see them saint'ing mmo players any time soon, otherwise I'd nominate you for that. I jest. :)

     

    Another reason to play beta hard, is to learn exploits and race yourself to the top before the nerfs come to where you can never be touched. Now I don't say this negatively to you, but to every stupid mmo that falls for this over and over. You would think having tight slots out of the gate would make more sense, so exploits there doesn't make a 1% group for life and as they learn how the base is doing, then loosen it up, so the entire base enjoys the liberal offerings. But no, it will always be, get in first to get ungodly wealth before we snip those lines forever...

    most MMOs i have tested which had these exploits in beta or shortly after launch rolled back or even banned the people using those exploits.. really never saw a point in exploiting an MMO i actually cared about playing..

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • gaeanprayergaeanprayer Somewhere Out There, PAPosts: 2,320Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    don't think anyone expects this to be the best MMO eva:P but as long as combat is fun, classes are enjoyable, and foundry is well fleshed out i think it will have some good potential for many many hours of enjoyment

    This is basically how I feel, though I'm worried about how much faith people are placing in the Foundry. My experience with player-made content is that it's never very good, and the handful of interesting stories people create are frequently buried under the plethora of easy farming maps people make instead. It's inevitable that, if they haven't already, Foundry rewards will end up nerfed to the point that doing that to get anything worthwhile will either be a grind or irrelevant entirely in order to avoid this, unless they go a completely different route with rewards (exclusive skins, more foundry options, etc). The problem there is there are many people who won't be happy if they're not actually getting stronger.

    You just can't win with player-made content, someone is always going to try and take advantage of the system and ruin it for everyone else. This wouldn't be as huge a deal if Foundry was one small portion of the content, but it's increasingly becoming the 'star' of the game, with the rest of the content somewhat limited and only mildly interesting. The combat looks alright, but it doesn't look as good as TERA's combat, a game that bored me to tears by level 25 despite having some great combat mechanics.

    I'm REALLY hoping I'm wrong and that NWO ends up some great jewel, I haven't had a Neverwinter fix since 2 and I miss that world. Right now though, I'm hesitant.

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  • Sicc1Sicc1 gresham, ORPosts: 240Member
    Is there any pvp at all in Neverwinter?

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by gaeanprayer
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    don't think anyone expects this to be the best MMO eva:P but as long as combat is fun, classes are enjoyable, and foundry is well fleshed out i think it will have some good potential for many many hours of enjoyment

    This is basically how I feel, though I'm worried about how much faith people are placing in the Foundry. My experience with player-made content is that it's never very good, and the handful of interesting stories people create are frequently buried under the plethora of easy farming maps people make instead. It's inevitable that, if they haven't already, Foundry rewards will end up nerfed to the point that doing that to get anything worthwhile will either be a grind or irrelevant entirely in order to avoid this, unless they go a completely different route with rewards (exclusive skins, more foundry options, etc). The problem there is there are many people who won't be happy if they're not actually getting stronger.

    You just can't win with player-made content, someone is always going to try and take advantage of the system and ruin it for everyone else. This wouldn't be as huge a deal if Foundry was one small portion of the content, but it's increasingly becoming the 'star' of the game, with the rest of the content somewhat limited and only mildly interesting. The combat looks alright, but it doesn't look as good as TERA's combat, a game that bored me to tears by level 25 despite having some great combat mechanics.

    I'm REALLY hoping I'm wrong and that NWO ends up some great jewel, I haven't had a Neverwinter fix since 2 and I miss that world. Right now though, I'm hesitant.

    don't have specifics but they said there are several systems in place to prevent people from making "farming" maps.. i don't agree that player content is never very good.. for instance some of the best content in the elder scrolls games is player made..

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • jdnycjdnyc Long Island City, NYPosts: 1,696Member
    Originally posted by Sicc1
    Is there any pvp at all in Neverwinter?

    Yes.  Disabled this weekend.

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,272Member Uncommon
    Does itemization/abilities/customization have a meta game. or is it the same straight forward "no need for a damage meter" type system?
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