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JemcrystalJemcrystal Champaign, ILPosts: 1,553Member Uncommon

What is this illusion that gamers are rich?

 

It would have been better if they sold their VIP Founder Pack for, at most, $40.00.  Then there would have been a lot of peeps riding around on spiders and no one jealous.  Selling it a $200 is to much and stupid.  Now only a few peeps will pay $199.99 and PWE will get less money for their greed.  Guardian Pack should of been $20 and Starter Kit is garbage.

 

I would not go thru the torment of a beta if someone paid me; any beta.  They should have sold that separately for the masochists at any price from $600 to $60.  Let the silly rich people think they're getting a deal with beta access.  

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  • paulythebpaulytheb Wauwatosa, WIPosts: 261Member Uncommon

    It does seem a bit pricey. They did the same thing with STO lifetime though.

     

    The good news is the game at release is going to be free to play so if you just be patient you don't have to pay anything.

    ( Note to self-Don't say anything bad about Drizzt.)

    An acerbic sense of humor is NOT allowed here.

  • killahhkillahh calgary, ABPosts: 437Member
    t is a bit up there, but then again, if you like a game enough, youll buy that content. And besides, want to make more money
    . Get a better education and a better job.

    Gonada Dahung,over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting....Please Lord, let someone make a game that had all the awesomeness of UO, EQ and EVE...

  • DevironDeviron Lubbock, TXPosts: 17Member
    Originally posted by killahh
     Get a better education and a better job.

    You need a better education.  If you had one you would know that statement is full of so much ignorance.

    Some people cannot afford such luxuries. Kids, current status in life beyond work, and many more reasons can make it hard to spend 60$ on something they are not quite sure about.

    To me its a money grab, but that is how the world works.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,214Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Deviron
    Originally posted by killahh
     Get a better education and a better job.

    You need a better education.  If you had one you would know that statement is full of so much ignorance.

    Some people cannot afford such luxuries. Kids, current status in life beyond work, and many more reasons can make it hard to spend 60$ on something they are not quite sure about.

    To me its a money grab, but that is how the world works.

    It's free to play.  How much of a money grab is that?

    I don't get your point about people who can't afford luxuries and how unfair that is.  What's your point?

    It's funny that someone who is so gung-ho to throw money at a kickstarter for a sub-locked game would posture about money grabs from a f2p game.  That's the definition of hypocrisy.  So how about those poor people who can't afford the luxury of a subscription and want to play it?  To me *that* is a money grab, but that's how life works.

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by Jemcrystal

    What is this illusion that gamers are rich?

     

    It would have been better if they sold their VIP Founder Pack for, at most, $40.00.  Then there would have been a lot of peeps riding around on spiders and no one jealous.  Selling it a $200 is to much and stupid.  Now only a few peeps will pay $199.99 and PWE will get less money for their greed.  Guardian Pack should of been $20 and Starter Kit is garbage.

     

    I would not go thru the torment of a beta if someone paid me; any beta.  They should have sold that separately for the masochists at any price from $600 to $60.  Let the silly rich people think they're getting a deal with beta access.  

    The best part abou it is, if you don't find value for your money, you don't have to spend it.  You will still be able to play the game. Everyone wins.

  • DevironDeviron Lubbock, TXPosts: 17Member

    Did you read the original post or just reply to me with "whats your point?" twice?

    The OP made a comment about the cost of the pre orders for yes dare I say a free to play game.

    Someone made an ignorant post about needing a job.

    I replied that sometimes its not as easy  as one would think. Again I replied specifically about the job comment not anything to do with free to play that was not the original conversation.

    You asked whats your point?

    This should help you with your understanding.

     

  • GwapoJoshGwapoJosh Auburn, INPosts: 991Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Deviron
    Originally posted by killahh
     Get a better education and a better job.

    You need a better education.  If you had one you would know that statement is full of so much ignorance.

    Some people cannot afford such luxuries. Kids, current status in life beyond work, and many more reasons can make it hard to spend 60$ on something they are not quite sure about.

    To me its a money grab, but that is how the world works.

    It's free to play.  How much of a money grab is that?

    I don't get your point about people who can't afford luxuries and how unfair that is.  What's your point?

    The point is that it's f2p and people are paying $200 for it and you don't even get anything in the mail..  It's the biggest mmo money grab I have ever seen.

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  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Uncommon
    I agree with the OP - $200 is comical.
  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,214Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GwapoJosh
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Deviron
    Originally posted by killahh
     Get a better education and a better job.

    You need a better education.  If you had one you would know that statement is full of so much ignorance.

    Some people cannot afford such luxuries. Kids, current status in life beyond work, and many more reasons can make it hard to spend 60$ on something they are not quite sure about.

    To me its a money grab, but that is how the world works.

    It's free to play.  How much of a money grab is that?

    I don't get your point about people who can't afford luxuries and how unfair that is.  What's your point?

    The point is that it's f2p and people are paying $200 for it and you don't even get anything in the mail..  It's the biggest mmo money grab I have ever seen.

    You don't have to pay it and you can still play.  Where is the money grab?  What does the mail have to do with anything?

    The op is complaining because they're jealous but too cheap to spend the money.

  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jemcrystal

    What is this illusion that gamers are rich?

     

    It would have been better if they sold their VIP Founder Pack for, at most, $40.00.  Then there would have been a lot of peeps riding around on spiders and no one jealous.  Selling it a $200 is to much and stupid.  Now only a few peeps will pay $199.99 and PWE will get less money for their greed.  Guardian Pack should of been $20 and Starter Kit is garbage.

     

    I would not go thru the torment of a beta if someone paid me; any beta.  They should have sold that separately for the masochists at any price from $600 to $60.  Let the silly rich people think they're getting a deal with beta access.  

     Sooo you don't know that the games free to download and free to play? Sad how little research people do before they post threads like this.

       End the end whats so special about a spider mount if everyone has one? Nothing. While i could care less what random player X is riding it would seem the whole point of the spider munt being pricey and rare IS the jealously factor.

       So in the end your not complaining that the game cost too much as its free your complaining that you can't be Drizzt and ride a ultra cool spider mount to make everyone else in the game jealous of you for cheaper.

  • DevironDeviron Lubbock, TXPosts: 17Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr  they're jealous

    Where is does the OP say he is jealous?

    Screw this im done reading comprehension FTL.

    Im quickly reminded why i have an 04 account and only 14 posts.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,214Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Deviron

    Did you read the original post or just reply to me with "whats your point?" twice?

    The OP made a comment about the cost of the pre orders for yes dare I say a free to play game.

    Someone made an ignorant post about needing a job.

    I replied that sometimes its not as easy  as one would think. Again I replied specifically about the job comment not anything to do with free to play that was not the original conversation.

    You asked whats your point?

    This should help you with your understanding.

     

    There is no pre-order.  It doesn't cost anything but your bandwidth and time to download and play the game.

    The person who made the point about working for it is spot on.  There is an optional luxury pack.  If you can't afford it then don't buy it.  No sympathy for that from me.

    If we were talking about shelter, food, and necessities and someone complained that they're employment didn't cover that even though they work hard, then I would have sympathy and compassion.  That is a hard place to be.

    Self-entitlement and bitching because you dont get the same luxuries as everyone and are jealous about it is pathetic and rude.  This is especially true because they don't charge you to play the game.

  • rnor6084rnor6084 brunswick, GAPosts: 109Member
    Originally posted by Deviron
    Originally posted by Torvaldr  they're jealous

    Where is does the OP say he is jealous?

    When he says "silly rich people."  He and you can deny it till kingdom come want but this is just more class warfare that has invaded our culture. AKA jealousy.

     

    It is a F2P game and no one is being forced to purchase. 

     

    I could afford it but no way. IMO it is not worth it but to someone else it may be and it is none of my damn business how someone else may chhose to spend their cash.

     

     

     

     

  • paulythebpaulytheb Wauwatosa, WIPosts: 261Member Uncommon

    I gotta wonder. If the game is free to play, why does it cost 200 bucks?

    Oh, its going  to be free.  Right now 200 dollars.

    They still aren't talking about the monetization in the game.

    It might be free to play, one hour a week. Who knows?

    They have to make some money somehow, its a brand new game.

    This game may not be as free as everyone thinks.

    DDO is free too. But you are gonna grind or pay to access the best instances.

    Speaking of instances.

    Didn't everyone Bash the livin chit out of - DDO, STO, CO, TOR for being too instanced??

    How is this any better?

     

    ( Note to self-Don't say anything bad about Drizzt.)

    An acerbic sense of humor is NOT allowed here.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,214Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Jemcrystal

    What is this illusion that gamers are rich?

     

    It would have been better if they sold their VIP Founder Pack for, at most, $40.00.  Then there would have been a lot of peeps riding around on spiders and no one jealous.  Selling it a $200 is to much and stupid.  Now only a few peeps will pay $199.99 and PWE will get less money for their greed.  Guardian Pack should of been $20 and Starter Kit is garbage.

    I would not go thru the torment of a beta if someone paid me; any beta.  They should have sold that separately for the masochists at any price from $600 to $60.  Let the silly rich people think they're getting a deal with beta access.  

    Originally posted by Deviron

    Originally posted by Torvaldr  they're jealous

    Where is does the OP say he is jealous?

    Screw this im done reading comprehension FTL.

    Im quickly reminded why i have an 04 account and only 14 posts.

    The OP is the one that brought up jealousy.   If discussing things with people frustrates you then keeping your post count low is probably a good idea.

  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GwapoJosh
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Deviron
    Originally posted by killahh
     Get a better education and a better job.

    You need a better education.  If you had one you would know that statement is full of so much ignorance.

    Some people cannot afford such luxuries. Kids, current status in life beyond work, and many more reasons can make it hard to spend 60$ on something they are not quite sure about.

    To me its a money grab, but that is how the world works.

    It's free to play.  How much of a money grab is that?

    I don't get your point about people who can't afford luxuries and how unfair that is.  What's your point?

    The point is that it's f2p and people are paying $200 for it and you don't even get anything in the mail..  It's the biggest mmo money grab I have ever seen.

     its free to play the game was not free to develop / produce / launch so how exactly are they holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy founder packs? If people want to support the game good for them, for those that don't and just want to play for free thats there as well. if this is the biggest money grab you have ever seen then you either have alot of growing to do or simply don't get out much in the real world.(or the internet for that matter either)

       Serously any sub based game (and I'm prosubs) or B2P game is more of a money grab as they actually require you to spend money to play and then generally more money in their also included cash shops. 

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,214Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by paulytheb

    I gotta wonder. If the game is free to play, why does it cost 200 bucks?

    Oh, its going  to be free.  Right now 200 dollars.

    They still aren't talking about the monetization in the game.

    It might be free to play, one hour a week. Who knows?

    They have to make some money somehow, its a brand new game.

    This game may not be as free as everyone thinks.

    DDO is free too. But you are gonna grind or pay to access the best instances.

    Speaking of instances.

    Didn't everyone Bash the livin chit out of - DDO, STO, CO, TOR for being too instanced??

    How is this any better?

    The game isn't released yet.  It will have an open beta period and from that point on you can enter the game world without a subscription.  In fact they aren't even going to offer a subscription.

    We have a good idea how the game will be monetized because they're also the developer of Star Trek Online which is also sub-free.  STO doesn't lock lock content or classes.  But you're right, we haven't seen the cash shop and that's somethng to watch out for.

    Instancing is for another topic.  There are already threads open about that.

  • AkumawraithAkumawraith Fort wayne, INPosts: 335Member Common

    The game is free to download

    The game is free to play

    the packages are 20 bucks, 60 bucks and 200 bucks...

    If the game is free all around and they offer packages for players to get access to a "closed beta" that is thier right.. In this world nothing is free but but again its another demand of the gimme generation..

    i want all the goodies but not the work that goes into getting it...

    I want access to the content that pretty much gives the player the look and style of Drizzt Do'Urrden The most iconic drow hero to come from the depths of Chaos and its being offered for 200 bucks????

    hell that makes perfect sense to me for the gimme generations mentallity... There is nothing to buy for this game at launch... get a clue people its "Free"

    So they have the absolute right to set prices for thier beta access.. it is closed btw .. so not every lil whining fool can get in and ruin it before its released. I for one am going to get the 60 dollar pack.. its not that i dont want to be Drizzt its just that for a beta.. well, i wanna play it before i jump too far in.

     

    Played: UO, LotR, WoW, SWG, DDO, AoC, EVE, Warhammer, TF2, EQ2, SWTOR, TSW, CSS, KF, L4D, AoW, WoT

    Playing: The Secret World until Citadel of Sorcery goes into Alpha testing.

    Tired of: Linear quest games, dailies, and dumbed down games

    Anticipating:Citadel of Sorcery

  • DevironDeviron Lubbock, TXPosts: 17Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Jemcrystal

    What is this illusion that gamers are rich?

     

    It would have been better if they sold their VIP Founder Pack for, at most, $40.00.  Then there would have been a lot of peeps riding around on spiders and no one jealous.  Selling it a $200 is to much and stupid.  Now only a few peeps will pay $199.99 and PWE will get less money for their greed.  Guardian Pack should of been $20 and Starter Kit is garbage.

    I would not go thru the torment of a beta if someone paid me; any beta.  They should have sold that separately for the masochists at any price from $600 to $60.  Let the silly rich people think they're getting a deal with beta access.  

    Originally posted by Deviron

    Originally posted by Torvaldr  they're jealous

    Where is does the OP say he is jealous?

    Screw this im done reading comprehension FTL.

    Im quickly reminded why i have an 04 account and only 14 posts.

    The OP is the one that brought up jealousy.   If discussing things with people frustrates you then keeping your post count low is probably a good idea.

    Read it again and come back when you understand what he meant by his word of jealous.

    If i went by your blazing logic I could write sentence put murder in it and that would make me a murderer lmao.

    Classic

  • DevironDeviron Lubbock, TXPosts: 17Member
    Originally posted by Deviron
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Jemcrystal

    What is this illusion that gamers are rich?

     

    It would have been better if they sold their VIP Founder Pack for, at most, $40.00.  Then there would have been a lot of peeps riding around on spiders and no one would care.  Selling it a $200 is to much and stupid.  Now only a few peeps will pay $199.99 and PWE will get less money for their greed.  Guardian Pack should of been $20 and Starter Kit is garbage.

    I would not go thru the torment of a beta if someone paid me; any beta.  They should have sold that separately for the masochists at any price from $600 to $60.  Let the silly rich people think they're getting a deal with beta access.  

    Fixed it for you in case you couldnt understand it.

  • sibs4455sibs4455 manchesterPosts: 357Member

    I too agree with the op, what some people fail to understand is that this game is not a AAA mmorpg and so does not warrant such a high price tag, Ofcourse Cryptic can charge what they want and they have.

    Cryptic needs to realize that there are alot of gamers who paid good money for a crap game called STO, most gamers i know feel like they were conned.So really you would of thought that their Public Relations Department would have told the people incharge that a resonable charge for said packs would have done then a world of good.

    My opinion about Cryptic is that this game is going to be make or break for them, i know they belong to PWorld now but i doubt that will save them.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by Jemcrystal

    What is this illusion that gamers are rich?

     

    It would have been better if they sold their VIP Founder Pack for, at most, $40.00.  Then there would have been a lot of peeps riding around on spiders and no one jealous.  Selling it a $200 is to much and stupid.  Now only a few peeps will pay $199.99 and PWE will get less money for their greed.  Guardian Pack should of been $20 and Starter Kit is garbage.

     

    I would not go thru the torment of a beta if someone paid me; any beta.  They should have sold that separately for the masochists at any price from $600 to $60.  Let the silly rich people think they're getting a deal with beta access.  

    No. Selling the price the market can bear is called good business. If there is no demand, they will lower the price. Why should they put up a lower price first? Let's see how many rich people will buy first .. THEN lower the price.

  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by paulytheb

    I gotta wonder. If the game is free to play, why does it cost 200 bucks?

    Oh, its going  to be free.  Right now 200 dollars.

    They still aren't talking about the monetization in the game.

    It might be free to play, one hour a week. Who knows?

    They have to make some money somehow, its a brand new game.

    This game may not be as free as everyone thinks.

    DDO is free too. But you are gonna grind or pay to access the best instances.

    Speaking of instances.

    Didn't everyone Bash the livin chit out of - DDO, STO, CO, TOR for being too instanced??

    How is this any better?

     

     No its free to play. If you want a armored spidermount, a panther companion the ability to play drizzt and several other things to include beta, and you don't want to try and get these things in game then it cost $200.

    No they aren't gonna limite play time to 1 hour a week.

    If you watch the total biscut live stream you'll see he asked if thing thats could be pruchased would be able to be aquired in game as well the answer which we assume is the truth was that yes they can be.

      yes the game IS heavily instanced . if your a no instance open world even if it lags me to death and i have to wait in line for 5 hours to kill a boss mob purest then yes you probably should avoid this game

  • Nhoj1983Nhoj1983 Mount Vernon, WAPosts: 185Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Deviron

    Did you read the original post or just reply to me with "whats your point?" twice?

    The OP made a comment about the cost of the pre orders for yes dare I say a free to play game.

    Someone made an ignorant post about needing a job.

    I replied that sometimes its not as easy  as one would think. Again I replied specifically about the job comment not anything to do with free to play that was not the original conversation.

    You asked whats your point?

    This should help you with your understanding.

     

    There is no pre-order.  It doesn't cost anything but your bandwidth and time to download and play the game.

    The person who made the point about working for it is spot on.  There is an optional luxury pack.  If you can't afford it then don't buy it.  No sympathy for that from me.

    If we were talking about shelter, food, and necessities and someone complained that they're employment didn't cover that even though they work hard, then I would have sympathy and compassion.  That is a hard place to be.

    Self-entitlement and bitching because you dont get the same luxuries as everyone and are jealous about it is pathetic and rude.  This is especially true because they don't charge you to play the game.

     Totally agree with this.  $200 is a lot of money but they're giving you alot for it.  If you don't want to pay it that's totally up to you.  You won't be missing much and yeah so you get into beta.. so what?  There will be many other options and chances to get in.  Relax.

  • CombspeCombspe Eugene, ORPosts: 100Member Uncommon
    No. He didn't read it. He paid someone to read it for him. He wouldn't understand and he would pay someone else to read your comment and his understanding of what you wrote in your lost post would go without understanding. In other words, he can't read.
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