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Diablo clone

baphametbaphamet omaha, NEPosts: 2,838Member Uncommon

not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise?

not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off.

from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more)

its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo.

whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money?

i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.

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  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Lancaster, UKPosts: 2,141Member Uncommon

    Yes - no - maybe.

    And I should add that Diablo 3 was reskinned Diablo 2. It added nothing much to the previous version.

  • ShrillyShrilly Citra, FLPosts: 379Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by baphamet

    not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise?

    not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off.

    from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more)

    its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo.

    whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money?

    i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.

     

     

    I TOTALLY agree image

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148 1, NJPosts: 6,690Member
    Totally get your point but since D3 was a failure I'll take a D2 clone anyday but there are some major differences to Path of Exile. 
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  • Iceman8235Iceman8235 Bordentown, NJPosts: 194Member Uncommon
    You can't talk about path of exile like that!  Expect a mob with torches and pitchforks on your porch around 8pm tonight.
  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    You can't talk about path of exile like that!  Expect a mob with torches and pitchforks on your porch around 8pm tonight.

    lol

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • xenomxenom grazPosts: 101Member Uncommon

    maybe because the game has some actual depth and replayability in the end - ever looked at the skill tree or the "create a map system" ? that's something blizzard games started lacking way back ago :)

    blizzard always does the combat system thing better than most (also with D3 and PoE) but the actual game depth is for 3 year olds in my opinion.

    that's the reasons i play PoE over D3 as of now :P

     

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog SPosts: 1,125Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by baphamet

    not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise?

    not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off.

    from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more)

    its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo.

    whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money?

    i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.

     

     

    because wow is crappy and even so its follow the D2 look and feel have diferent things the skill tree is only for passives skills you use gems, path of exile is more of D3 then the real D3 is, also since even the CS here is less troublesome then the paid auction house, this si still a win and they will not force you to pay to play the game too, you need more?

     

    also complaining about double standard is useless, world is full of these and worse

    FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.
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  • KalafaxKalafax Gainesville, FLPosts: 521Member Uncommon

    If you think its a diablo clone then you havent looked at the skill tree, how they use currency, the fact that is has varius leagues, the skill gem and socketing system, or really anything beyond its surface appearance. Players have been waiting for a sequel to Diablo 2 for a long long time because the game style is awesome, Diablo 3 turned out to be nothing like Diablo 2, but luckly Path of Exile is like Diablo 2 enough to carry the torch.

    Oh and did I mention is free to play and they arnt money grabbin?

    Mess with the best, Die like the rest

  • ExzyzExzyz LinkopingPosts: 70Member Uncommon

    WoW is shit, thats why people dont like WoW clones. 

    Diablo 1-2 was great but D3 sucks. So PoE being a D2 clone is the perfect game to play for a slash rpg fán.

  • EzhaeEzhae LondonPosts: 737Member

    I stilld on't see why "clone" word is used as derogatory term? I mean if it clones good gameplay mechanics what's wrong withthat? Gaming industry is not based on changing core concepts suddenly, it's about itteration and slow, step by step improvement of a concept. WoW was built upon the foundation of EQ and not completely invented from scratch overnight. 

    Isometric ARPGs are very limited genre anyway and there is not much in terms of core gameplay mechanics that can and even should be improved. 

    Should rather be called Diablo-like, just like there is genre called Rogue-like (which, actually was inspiration for first Diablo), because original Diablo spawned that genre pretty much. 

     

  • Rew4nRew4n Ceska LipaPosts: 7Member Uncommon
    I would say it's more like inspiration.
  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon

    Play Diablo 2, don't just remember it, and then play PoE. You'll quickly see that PoE takes everything good from D2 and adds even more to it. This is pure evolution whilst staying true to the roots in a way that D3 didn't fully manage to do. Plus, all ARPGs are clones.. the genre is too specific for them not to be. ARPG is not as broad a term as MMO.

  • aleosaleos na, INPosts: 1,863Member Uncommon

    i dont see any double standard. i see a game filling a space that was left empty.

     

    all anyone ever wanted was Diablo 2 in HD, at least thats all i wanted.. not a carebear overhaul to appease a greater audiance. So unlike this new diablo. Path of Exile actually allows me to allocate skill points. it doesnt do it for me. And the ability to use ANY power i flippin want by meeting basic requirements and an open slot on my weapons or armor that i can remove and replace at any time with no charge or hassel. sign me up.

    have you even seen that skill tree? its glorious..

     

    Did i mention its free.

  • Crunchy222Crunchy222 new york, ILPosts: 386Member
    Originally posted by aleos

    i dont see any double standard. i see a game filling a space that was left empty.

     

    all anyone ever wanted was Diablo 2 in HD, at least thats all i wanted.. not a carebear overhaul to appease a greater audiance. So unlike this new diablo. Path of Exile actually allows me to allocate skill points. it doesnt do it for me. And the ability to use ANY power i flippin want by meeting basic requirements and an open slot on my weapons or armor that i can remove and replace at any time with no charge or hassel. sign me up.

    have you even seen that skill tree? its glorious..

     

    Did i mention its free.

    More people play D3 than POE.

    Some people care more about entertaining combat mechanics than graphical looks, in fact i would argue more do.

    Your trading entertaining combat for graphics with POE...oh and its not blizzard, some people thats the largest factor in them enjoying a game apparently.

     

    But yes, the game is kind of a D2 ripoff...however you really can make the argument that a 12 year old game has better combat.  Also itemization was far better in D2.  If D3 hadnt pissed off a minority of the D2 crowd POE wouldnt even be on the radar.  The fans are grossly inflating the games greatness.

  • Ambros123Ambros123 Neverneverland, TNPosts: 877Member
    Everyone agreed and knew that this was more or less a Diablo clone.  Don't see the big deal, not like countless other games based their game off a successful one.
  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Uncommon
    WoW, Diablo and Blizzard cloned 1st Edition Dungeons and Dragons.
  • ShodanasShodanas PatrasPosts: 896Member Uncommon

    Can you please elaborate on how PoE "...blatantly ripped off dablo."? The UI? Because the health / mana orbs are located left and right? And sure, character selection and the inventory panel define wether a game is good or bad. Are you for real? Why don't you tell us about the things who actually matter like the skill sysytem. Or the excellent active / support gem system which provides ground for tons of experimentation. Or the innovative barter system in place of the old currency one.

    Remove your fanboy glasses and then you'll see that the F2P PoE puts the 60 euro DIII to shame.

  • jdnycjdnyc Long Island City, NYPosts: 1,696Member
    Originally posted by MMOGamer71
    WoW, Diablo and Blizzard cloned 1st Edition Dungeons and Dragons.

    WoW cloned Warhammer

    Warhammer cloned D&D

    D&D cloned Tolkein and Wargame minatures.

    Tolkein cloned WW2

    WW2 cloned Evil

    Evil Cloned Bible

    Bible Cloned God

    God

     

  • GhavriggGhavrigg Halifax, NSPosts: 775Member Uncommon
    Would have been nice if they had at least done male and female versions of all classes. The worst aspect of D1/ D2 that they decided to copy.
  • ZooceZooce B, FLPosts: 586Member

    PoE is a Diablo clone- if that is news to you, I'm not sure what to say.  The important concept is that it is a Diablo 1/2 clone and not a Diablo 3 clone.  Understand that, and I think you will eventually see the acusation as a complement for GGG.

     

    Diablo 3 might've failed the genre on many fronts, but they definitely improved the public party with personal loot.  PoE stuck to the old FFA loot mode and fails to offer a decent cooperative public party experience.

     

     

  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jdnyc
    Originally posted by MMOGamer71
    WoW, Diablo and Blizzard cloned 1st Edition Dungeons and Dragons.

    WoW cloned Warhammer

    Warhammer cloned D&D

    D&D cloned Tolkein and Wargame minatures.

    Tolkein cloned WW2

    WW2 cloned Evil

    Evil Cloned Bible

    Bible Cloned God

    God

     

    Yeah something like that.  The point being?  WoW, Diablo and Blizzard are not original concepts, the implementation of them through gameplay are though.

  • xenomxenom grazPosts: 101Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aviggin
    Would have been nice if they had at least done male and female versions of all classes. The worst aspect of D1/ D2 that they decided to copy.

    having every class in male & female costs lots of dev ressources on making the items look "classish + genderish". GGG = small dev team = just one gender makes perfectly sense as it does not add that much for that sort of game :)

  • jdnycjdnyc Long Island City, NYPosts: 1,696Member
    Originally posted by xenom
    Originally posted by Aviggin
    Would have been nice if they had at least done male and female versions of all classes. The worst aspect of D1/ D2 that they decided to copy.

    having every class in male & female costs lots of dev ressources on making the items look "classish + genderish". GGG = small dev team = just one gender makes perfectly sense as it does not add that much for that sort of game :)

    yeah - game started out as three guys in a garage and I think the entire team for the most part was like what?  Ten people?

  • GhavriggGhavrigg Halifax, NSPosts: 775Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by xenom
    Originally posted by Aviggin
    Would have been nice if they had at least done male and female versions of all classes. The worst aspect of D1/ D2 that they decided to copy.

    having every class in male & female costs lots of dev ressources on making the items look "classish + genderish". GGG = small dev team = just one gender makes perfectly sense as it does not add that much for that sort of game :)

    Meh, I understand why it was done, but gender-locked classes are a big turn off for me. Still, I'll download it, 'cause at least Shadow looks somewhat fun.

  • RazperilRazperil Lewiston, MEPosts: 289Member
    Originally posted by baphamet

    not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise?

    not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off.

    from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more)

    its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo.

    whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money?

    i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.

     

     

    Sounds like to me that you're disgruntled that Borecraft and D3 continue to have bad marks while a new game like Path of Exile has merit. There's a big difference when a company makes a game that people truly want and not just rehash the same game over and over again. (Like that company you mentioned). They have an amazing setup and the game designers are more passionate about what they create. It's an art that was lost long ago but has been found again by a company willing to make a game worthy of contending with one of the best in so many people's eyes. I'd say that says quite a bit. :)

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