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Yep I find that pretty funny. They pretend to be blind from all the info which has been released and then accuse others, who have looked at this info, of being blind.
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Blind hatred is unreasonable.
But the hatred surrounding TESO gets less and less blind everyday: people are holding what the devs say and show against them. And as others have said, even the historically over-positive writers here at MMORPG.com have all stated TESO is going to be a more or less typical themepark.
So... what? Criticizing TESO as a themepark is what? Besides true?
ES is a very popular and much beloved RPG IP and many fans of that IP are legitimately complaining that the MMO they are trying to sell is almost nothing like the SPG games that made the IP popular.
Guess what?
Too Bad.
When a developer chooses to use a popular IP, they get the marketing bump from the name recognition, which was the point, but they also get the "baggage" of what that IP brings to the table. And if they deviate too far from being "true" to that IP, then they can pay the penalty for that with the fans.
Which is what is happening here.
TESO will be/is nothing like the SPGs of the ES IP and Zenimax is going to hear about that.
And frankly, that is not unreasonable.
They have data now..you're starting to make it sound like a cult when you keep saying "we".
You can make 3 different characters and explore everything while also getting 3 different story lines through each faction.
A ThemePark is ofcourse not completely linear, just as a real ThemePark. They are all relatively linear because they provide you with rides (as more than one), in specific zones, for specific level brackets and once done you move on to the next ride for the next level bracket. That is what makes it linear and no ThemePark I have ever played did not follow that model.
I heard Secret World might be like that but that would be an exception and I strongly doubt that you can go anywhere you want at any level because it seems to be pretty story based which by definition makes it linear.
Also never heard of the term open themepark, did you just make that up?
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Maaaaybeeeee....
I don't need to develop an MMO to know crap when I see it.people make up terms all the time to suit their agenda, i've heard the term sandpark being thrown around a lot lately.
But you haven't seen it.
Which are three linear paths and at no time can you switch from one line to another unless you switch characters. In other words a typical linear ThemePark.
If it was like Skyrim you would be able to go from one faction to the other and by doing acts in that faction you could build up your reputation there and effectively switch or be dual faction. That would be an MMORPG which would follow the Skyrim model where you could join whatever faction you like and do their quest paths (or not).
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Oh dear god... lol
I put two words together to describe a sub style of themepark and all of a sudden I am making up terms to support an 'agenda'...
Classic
I don't need to develop an MMO to know crap when I see it.But you haven't seen it.
I've seen plenty of ES games, and I've seen most every single article and preview and video that the devs have released, and guess what? That is seeing enough. It is going to be magically something different from all that? No. There is plenty of information out now, and the beta is right around the corner, to figure out was TESO is and is not.Clearly it's not for you, perhaps it's to others? Like TSW? Amazing!
Well then if you have seen plenty of ES you'll know they've been dumbing them down for years. morrowind is nothing like oblivion. The difference between the two is sandbox and themepark.
well you did make up two terms to support your argument.
If this is the case then the entire community at ESO semi-offical forums will rage to no end. From what I've heard over and over there is that we will not be able to enter other faction's areas, no matter what and we are foolish self-entitled brats for asking otherwise.
I seen him studder when asked that question too, but I don't think he was hinting at anything. I'm guessing that it was discussed before the interview that the topic would not be mentioned and the interviewer slipped it in. If you see his face it tightens up and his body language shows aggervation and suprise.
If they do open up faction locks and allow us to explore other territories I would be far less criticial of them.
I can't speak for everyone else. Personally I think TES series is a nice mixture of sandbox and themepark. I don't think a full sandbox game would work well for this game. Most of the hate I've been noticing is noting the lack of freedom. Sorry for any confusion.
I'm a huge TES fan. I still play Morrowind (and still love it too), Oblivion and Skyrim. Sure there are things that disappoint me about ESO. But I have decided to consider it to be seperate from the single player games. As such, I will be enjoying it as a completely different game. I plan to have fun playing it. I plan to enjoy it for what it offers.
And when Bethesda Game Studios makes TES VI I will buy that and play it too.
I've come to the conclusion that people on this site are jaded by MMO's that failed to live up to their expectations. Maybe they trash on all new MMO's so they won't be disappointed when a game doesn't live up to their lofty expectations.
Typically in ES games I create a different character for each faction, rather than going jack of all trades with one, the characters are more believable that way for me. That's the problem with trying to take a hardline stance on what the ES model is.
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Go play Skyrim then, This is an mmo and they are designing it around the 3 factions being at war. There is more replayability when you can go through with different characters, classes and builds instead of respeccing or becoming a god that knows everything.
Oh boy...
Did I forget to apply for the patent at the Global Terms Ministry and get my joining two words together in a descriptive phrase authorised?
What a ridiculous bone to pick and make a point out of. I sincerely hope that you are not at all serious in having a problem with someone saying 'open themepark' and 'directed themepark' to describe two broad styles of the model and that you are just trolling me a little...
So being a MMO is > than being an Elder Scrolls game?
NO, there is no more replayability with area locking. That makes no sense whatsoever, the content is there you either do it or don't. Want to level different characters then take 3 different paths to get there. Matter of fact I would suggest there is less replayablity because every character you create within that faction will have the SAME PATH.
NO, there is no more replayability with area locking. That makes no sense whatsoever, the content is there you either do it or don't. Want to level different characters then take 3 different paths to get there. Matter of fact I would suggest there is less replayablity because every character you create within that faction will have the SAME PATH.
Here's a good question:
If you need a character for each faction, Are they going to sell character slots $$$
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What is the problem? Skyrim gives you the freedom to do what you want as well, that is the beauty of it. Freedom over restriction, sandbox vs themepark.
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