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Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date. I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end. This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.