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This is the Golden age of MMO's

eddieg50eddieg50 Tolland, CTPosts: 1,613Member Uncommon

   Especially if you do not want to spend much money.

 

   You have 2 GREAT story mmo's in TSW and SWTOR. TSW gives you great graphics, story , cut scenes, production, mystery, puzzles. Combine this with SWTOR which gives you GREAT story, production, cut scenes, combat, and good PvP. These are the two best story MMO's ever made!

   Love SWTOR but do not like their space game, then just download Star Trek Online, This game has improved massively in the last 2 years and offers a really fun space game and and average but functional ground game, if you switch back and forth from this to SWTOR than you have the best of both worlds.

     Want a traditional MMO with a little extra? Than just download Vanguard, it is a little creaky under the hood, but this baby has it all including Diplomacy a fun card game. There are not to many Worlds as open as this.   Want something even more traditional eq is now going F2P from what I have read

    Dont like the slightly creaky combat of Vanguard or TSW--------Big News---Tera with its great combat is going F2P.  Dont get me wrong the stories in TSW and SWTOR are Great but like anything else it can burn you out. If you want to come home and just KILL< KILL< KILL than tera is your game and the Pvp aint bad either.

     Hey how bout a traditional game with great story, graphics, Lore and exploring with good crafting ----Yup LOTRO. I am not sure but Lotro may be one of the Grand daddys of F2P and they keep churning out quality content to this day.

   Love the theme park but want it modern with very good Pvp- Just get Gw2, beautifull colors and great exploring, pretty good combat and plenty of PvP make this a game that is really fun, me being an oldie I like GW1 slightly better as I like its PvP a bit more but both games are fun

Tired of these darn themeparks and just want to play an Sandobox, than just download Xyson. You will find yourself in the middle of nowhere and you know what that means Sandbox Heaven, explore! the world is huge

     These are just some of the games that offer either F2P or just pay a little  he,he ,he. On my computer i have all these games and more on my hd and play them all plus eq2, aoc and aion, Of these 3 Aion gives you the best bang for your buck as eq2 and aoc while fine games have really bad F2P options

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  • EnerzealEnerzeal WarringtonPosts: 326Member

    I shall now debunk this post, MMO at a time.

    SWTOR - Broken F2P model, the worst end game I have ever laid eyes on. Right now I couldn't recommend this to anyone. 300 million to create this? All the money spent on voice overs and well acted cut scenes. I love good story, but save it for my single player games, if I wanted to be sucked in I would play Farcry 3, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy.

    TSW - This game is better than SWTOR, it's puzzles are somewhat engaging, and its classless progression is nice. However it suffers from broken unbalanced pvp, no raids, terrible hardcore mode 5 man dungeons. I could suggest this to someone however, so  not so far off the mark on this one.

    Vanguard - Ohh this game could of had it all, but I could never suggest to someone a game that has not had a significant update in about five years. It lacks polish in so many areas, I love what Vanguard could and should be, and perhaps supporting it is a way to get it to that place, but see it for what its free to play model is please, a cash grab. in a dying game.

    Tera - No complaints on this suggestion, great game, but do not play down its pvp which is by far its most entertaining element. If you don't like pvp, then I would in all honesty suggest something like Final Fantasy XI, but in this list you are only suggesting F2P games, so EQ2.

    GW2 - No opinion on this one, I haven't played it. Don't like its feature list, leveling up to access new zones and armor skins doesn't sound very appealing to me, and its pvp isn't FFA or Full loot and doesn't hold a candle to Tera.

    Xyson - How dare you recommend this game to anyone. As far as sandoxes go, why not recommend Mortal Online while you are at it. Simple fact, you cannot recommend a single sandbox game right now for free, the best sandbox at the moment is Eve Online which can be free if you play like a boss, but don't go selling Xyson to anyone.

    On your last few suggestions I'll do these in quick fire.

    Aion - Very Grindy, very much dying - play at your own peril, this one's days are numbered folks.

    AoC - Pay to win nightmare, you can subscribe to this mess, and still have to pay for items off the shop to compete, this one is a dud, a mess of a game that held so much potential.

    EQ2 - you need to put money down for this game, otherwise the limitations are just to great, if you get lucky and the class you want to play with the race you want to play is on offer then fantastic, I have an SOE all acess pass, so I play it right now but I find the constant immersion breaking mounts, and cosmetic items to be ruining my fun.

     

  • YizleYizle Atlanta, GAPosts: 517Member
    OP just one quick question. Where did you get your stash? That is some good stuff if you believe this post.
  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Posts: 5,316Member Uncommon

    Istaria is one of the best sandbox games out there and can be played for free.  Your restricted to human and cannot own a plot but can learn every skill and class in the game - free.

    As far as Aion's days being numbered, not likely.  It's still played by several million people in the east.

    what are the immersion breaking mounts in EQ2?  Everything I've seen so far fits pretty much with the world

    Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  • rguilbertrguilbert Key West, FLPosts: 107Member

    Recent MMOs have been really disappointing.  I keep hoping and hoping for one to come along that measures up to the great ones of the past, but it hasn't happend in a long time.

     

    Not "age"....maybe "shower"?

  • LaggedLagged DrawnoPosts: 8Member

    Soooo... doesn't anyone feel offended by the quests in TERA? Kill 6, bring 7 (as in kill 7), go to the next camp.

     

    That's kinda what that game is based on.

    And crafting sux as far as I've seen it, costs too much (had to buy 90% at vendor for 1st BS quest, etc.).

    Don't get me wrong, I love the combat in that game (tho I don't like having class specific weapon types, all the greatswords look the same for me since 16 levels).

    O,o nothing here o,O

  • XAPKenXAPKen Northwest, INPosts: 4,917Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by rguilbert
     

    Not "age"....maybe "shower"?

     

    *grin*  Better to get pissed off than... oh nevermind.

     


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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    I think the guy is just trying to be positive, so whatever.  There are still a lot of people who buy games who don't meticulously scan forums for every feature and then complain when the game doesn't release with it and working 100%, they just buy it because it looks fun and they don't give themselves a heart attack over the small things... so yeah, there are some great games on that list.
  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common

    There is little question that the best time for MMORPGs was early 2004

    EQ was still in its prime

    DAoC/UO/AC were all still options

    EvE was growing

    FFXI

    SWG was still a sandbox

     

    You can even stretch it to that moment that WoW and EQ2 launched and the other games were still thriving.  But by the end of 2005 even though Vanilla WoW was a great, great game and EQ2 was starting to become one, the early game's population was declining fast and SWG was getting NGE'd.

     

  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common
    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

    what are the immersion breaking mounts in EQ2?  Everything I've seen so far fits pretty much with the world

    the leaping raptors are pretty ridiculous.  Although I think he was going for the aesthetics of the mounts not the mechanics.  But seeing as how EQ2 is a high fantasy game i dont see a big issue. I think its worse in EQ1 actually.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    I like what 2nd poster had to say
  • OnomasOnomas Rock Hill, SCPosts: 1,128Member Uncommon
    Story is trivial in a great mmo. Story u talk about so much last a few weeks to months then boredom. Need much more than a story for a mmorpg lol. Golden age? More like the dark age. And I'm waiting for the enlightened age.
  • eddieg50eddieg50 Tolland, CTPosts: 1,613Member Uncommon

      Unfortunately I had to go pick up a pizza and could not complete my essay but this really is the Goldan Age for people who do not want to pay a sub but still want to play quality MMO games.  As one poster said there are not to many sand boxes with the exception of Xyson but certainly mine craft could be considered and Ryzom while not free offers 150 levels before you have to pay.

        I left out one game which is quite good and that is Fallen Earth-part sand box, part theme park.  What ever some of you think of some of these games most can agree that as far a s F2P or very little to play this is the Golden Age of MMO's

        Now I understand that for some hard core posters who have these nostalgic dreams of SWG making a come back or who sit and relive the days of EQ (dont sit start playing it is free now) it is a sad day for them, but for the rest of us it is manna from heaven. This is what my MMO game folder looks like

     

    1. Tsw

    2.  SWTOR

    3. Vanguard

    4. Guildwars 2

    5. Guild wars 1 and of course all expansions

    6. STO

    7. Fallen Earth

    8. Ryzom

    9. Tera (will be downloading to play again on Jan 16)

    10. AOC--terrible F2P option but I love the combat

    11. LOTRO- edited in, a true leader in F2P

    12. Uncharterd Waters- a little known but a gem of a sailing sandbox

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Story is trivial in a great mmo. Story u talk about so much last a few weeks to months then boredom. Need much more than a story for a mmorpg lol. Golden age? More like the dark age. And I'm waiting for the enlightened age.

    boredom? Why would you continue to play if the content is done? If you are bored, you should move on to the next game.

    Gaming is never boring. It is silly to play a game if you are bored. And there is never a lack of new games to try.

    Yeah, it is pretty good time. Lots of choices of games, unlike in UO/EQ time. The MMOs are also better games. I have little complaints.

  • OnomasOnomas Rock Hill, SCPosts: 1,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    Originally posted by Onomas
    Story is trivial in a great mmo. Story u talk about so much last a few weeks to months then boredom. Need much more than a story for a mmorpg lol. Golden age? More like the dark age. And I'm waiting for the enlightened age.

    boredom? Why would you continue to play if the content is done? If you are bored, you should move on to the next game.

    Gaming is never boring. It is silly to play a game if you are bored. And there is never a lack of new games to try.

    Yeah, it is pretty good time. Lots of choices of games, unlike in UO/EQ time. The MMOs are also better games. I have little complaints.

     

    I think you missed the point
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,665Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    I like what 2nd poster had to say

    I second that second poster contention.

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  • eddieg50eddieg50 Tolland, CTPosts: 1,613Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Story is trivial in a great mmo. Story u talk about so much last a few weeks to months then boredom. Need much more than a story for a mmorpg lol. Golden age? More like the dark age. And I'm waiting for the enlightened age.

       Thanks to TSW and TOR and in a more limited sense Lotro and STO story has made MMO's much more satisfying to play, no longer will I have to go through a very boring grind to reach the so called mana of end game

  • eddieg50eddieg50 Tolland, CTPosts: 1,613Member Uncommon
    Holy cow how could I forget Lotro, although to get the most out of it you have to buy episodes it is still mostly F2P and is and will always will be on my list of MMO's. A fantasic combination of Graphics, story and Lore with crafting that although is not up to Vanguards greatness is still pretty good. so yes Lotro would be #11 on my list . Imagine that 11 MMO's at my finger tips and I barely have to spend a dime!!!!
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Story is trivial in a great mmo. Story u talk about so much last a few weeks to months then boredom. Need much more than a story for a mmorpg lol. Golden age? More like the dark age. And I'm waiting for the enlightened age.

    boredom? Why would you continue to play if the content is done? If you are bored, you should move on to the next game.

    Gaming is never boring. It is silly to play a game if you are bored. And there is never a lack of new games to try.

    Yeah, it is pretty good time. Lots of choices of games, unlike in UO/EQ time. The MMOs are also better games. I have little complaints.

     

    I think you missed the point

    Nope. I think i disagree with the point. I disagree with the notion that a game need to last and last and last. Everything comes to an end. Everything will eventually become old. Hanging on to a GAME like it is the only reality .. is just sad.

    And if you cannot enjoy a short but fun gaming experience, it is your loss.

  • LatronusLatronus Lexington Park, MDPosts: 692Member
    Originally posted by strangiato2112

    There is little question that the best time for MMORPGs was early 2004

    EQ was still in its prime

    DAoC/UO/AC were all still options

    EvE was growing

    FFXI

    SWG was still a sandbox

     

    You can even stretch it to that moment that WoW and EQ2 launched and the other games were still thriving.  But by the end of 2005 even though Vanilla WoW was a great, great game and EQ2 was starting to become one, the early game's population was declining fast and SWG was getting NGE'd.

     

    I will totally agree with the first half of our post.  I think up until 2004 was the golden age.  WOW/EQ2 and everything since have been MMOs on easy mode.  Just my opinion though.

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  • FromHellFromHell NY, NYPosts: 1,311Member
    Originally posted by Enerzeal

    I shall now debunk this post, MMO at a time.

    TSW - This game is better than SWTOR, it's puzzles are somewhat engaging, and its classless progression is nice. However it suffers from broken unbalanced pvp, no raids, terrible hardcore mode 5 man dungeons. I could suggest this to someone however, so  not so far off the mark on this one.

    You missed the New York Raid!!!?? And soon, puzzle raids are coming, entirely new raid concept afaik

    PvP revamp is in the works as well.

    tsw, good times

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  • eddieg50eddieg50 Tolland, CTPosts: 1,613Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Enerzeal

    I shall now debunk this post, MMO at a time.

    SWTOR - Broken F2P model, the worst end game I have ever laid eyes on. Right now I couldn't recommend this to anyone. 300 million to create this? All the money spent on voice overs and well acted cut scenes. I love good story, but save it for my single player games, if I wanted to be sucked in I would play Farcry 3, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy.

    TSW - This game is better than SWTOR, it's puzzles are somewhat engaging, and its classless progression is nice. However it suffers from broken unbalanced pvp, no raids, terrible hardcore mode 5 man dungeons. I could suggest this to someone however, so  not so far off the mark on this one.

    Vanguard - Ohh this game could of had it all, but I could never suggest to someone a game that has not had a significant update in about five years. It lacks polish in so many areas, I love what Vanguard could and should be, and perhaps supporting it is a way to get it to that place, but see it for what its free to play model is please, a cash grab. in a dying game.

    Tera - No complaints on this suggestion, great game, but do not play down its pvp which is by far its most entertaining element. If you don't like pvp, then I would in all honesty suggest something like Final Fantasy XI, but in this list you are only suggesting F2P games, so EQ2.

    GW2 - No opinion on this one, I haven't played it. Don't like its feature list, leveling up to access new zones and armor skins doesn't sound very appealing to me, and its pvp isn't FFA or Full loot and doesn't hold a candle to Tera.

    Xyson - How dare you recommend this game to anyone. As far as sandoxes go, why not recommend Mortal Online while you are at it. Simple fact, you cannot recommend a single sandbox game right now for free, the best sandbox at the moment is Eve Online which can be free if you play like a boss, but don't go selling Xyson to anyone.

    On your last few suggestions I'll do these in quick fire.

    Aion - Very Grindy, very much dying - play at your own peril, this one's days are numbered folks.

    AoC - Pay to win nightmare, you can subscribe to this mess, and still have to pay for items off the shop to compete, this one is a dud, a mess of a game that held so much potential.

    EQ2 - you need to put money down for this game, otherwise the limitations are just to great, if you get lucky and the class you want to play with the race you want to play is on offer then fantastic, I have an SOE all acess pass, so I play it right now but I find the constant immersion breaking mounts, and cosmetic items to be ruining my fun.

     

       LOL---you did not de bunk but rather expressed your opinion, that is what is great about MMORPG.com, people can come on read someones post express their own opinion and be totaly wrong. But I do appreciate the difference of opinion

  • NovusodNovusod Lakewood, NJPosts: 892Member Uncommon

    This must be satire or the first poster is trolling. All those games range from bad to very bad. Not one is a sandbox where you get to make your own way. All are cottoncandy storybook MMOs where they force feed you the "story."

     

    Sandbox or GO HOME.

  • redcappredcapp brook, NYPosts: 722Member

    +1 for 'up to 2004'

     

     

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by Novusod

    This must be satire or the first poster is trolling. All those games range from bad to very bad. Not one is a sandbox where you get to make your own way. All are cottoncandy storybook MMOs where they force feed you the "story."

     

    Sandbox or GO HOME.

    Sandbox is just one kind of MMO, and not even the dominant kind.

    And who should i "go home". I play whatever i like.

  • NovusodNovusod Lakewood, NJPosts: 892Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Novusod

    This must be satire or the first poster is trolling. All those games range from bad to very bad. Not one is a sandbox where you get to make your own way. All are cottoncandy storybook MMOs where they force feed you the "story."

     

    Sandbox or GO HOME.

    Sandbox is just one kind of MMO, and not even the dominant kind.

    And who should i "go home". I play whatever i like.

    By go home I mean don't make pretentious claims that this is the golden age of MMOs because that notion is completely ridiculous. The golden age of MMOs was pre 2004 during the sandbox era. Sandbox MMO is the superior kind of game design because it offers limitless game play with open ended goals that can never really be completed. This is the complete opposite design of GW2 or SWTOR where when you complete the set story the game for all practical purposes is over. That is the problem with story based themeparks for as soon as you complete the story the game ends. It used to be commonly said that you could not ever beat an MMO but that is just not just not true anymore. That was a saying from the time of sandboxes when the possibilites were limitless. YOU can go play whatever game you want but I am not buying any more crappy themepark wow clones.

    I say again. GO HOME Mr Themepark.

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