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Finally .. no more sub games for me

nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member

My WOW annual pass is finally up. So i cancelled prompty. This will be my last sub game (MMO or otherwise).

Not that i don't play F2P games before, but now .. it is all F2P for all the MMOs i will play.

Looks like TSW may go F2P in the future too .. anyone want to venture a guess of when that will happen?

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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Grats, it's nice to get that monkey off your back. I know I'm quite happy in my sub-free game, and hopefully for TSW they'll have their share of success ditching the sub model as well.

    Oderint, dum metuant.
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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Grats, it's nice to get that monkey off your back. I know I'm quite happy in my sub-free game, and hopefully for TSW they'll have their share of success ditching the sub model as well.

    I am waiting for TSW to turn F2P too. The other one i am waiting for is Marvel Heroes.

    But in the mean time, it is not like there is a lack of games to play. Still playing D3, PS2 is still fun particularly i am getting better at head shotting people. And i have a tons of SP games to finish.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Grats, it's nice to get that monkey off your back. I know I'm quite happy in my sub-free game, and hopefully for TSW they'll have their share of success ditching the sub model as well.

    My rift sub ends in March.  I'm not renewing but I'll be glad when that is done with as well.

    I'm really happy that FC opened up TSW with B2P.  I think it's also interesting they're still keeping a sub option for those that want it.  I don't mind that being around as long as I can enjoy the game without it.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
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  • CalmOceansCalmOceans BergenPosts: 2,273Member
    Good luck on spending more on F2P to enjoy the game.
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Good luck on spending more on F2P to enjoy the game.

    Don't worry. I will join the majority of MMO players in the US, and pay nothing. I will let teh whales to subsidize my gaming. It is not like i haven't play F2P before, jsut that i have to wait till my annual pass is over before killing the last sub.

  • CalmOceansCalmOceans BergenPosts: 2,273Member
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Good luck on spending more on F2P to enjoy the game.

    Don't worry. I will join the majority of MMO players in the US, and pay nothing. I will let teh whales to subsidize my gaming. It is not like i haven't play F2P before, jsut that i have to wait till my annual pass is over before killing the last sub.

    That's fine, I'll rephrase my wording then.

    "Good luck on being treated as a second-class citizen in every game."

    The only reason developers keep you non-paying players in F2P games is to entertain the paying demographic.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by BlueSage13
     

    The "free" part is what holds me back from truly discussing the topic. You inherently add-in the "free" to your list of games without speaking about anything else like quality or anything else of the game...but it certanly must be "free."

    Quality is obviously in the eye of the beholder. But i found enough free games taht are fun.

    PS2 is fun for me.

    DCUO is fun for me.

    TSW looks good.

    Marvel Heroes looks *really* good .. a Marvel Ultimate Alliance type game without a fee!!!!

    So it is not like there is a lack of fun games taht are free (for me at least).

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Good luck on spending more on F2P to enjoy the game.

    Don't worry. I will join the majority of MMO players in the US, and pay nothing. I will let teh whales to subsidize my gaming. It is not like i haven't play F2P before, jsut that i have to wait till my annual pass is over before killing the last sub.

    That's fine, I'll rephrase my wording then.

    "Good luck on being treated as a second-cass citizen in every game then."

    The only reason developers keep you non-paying players is to entertain the paying demographic.

    Of course. It is only fair that the pay customers goet some advantage, don't you think?

  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Good luck on spending more on F2P to enjoy the game.

    Don't worry. I will join the majority of MMO players in the US, and pay nothing. I will let teh whales to subsidize my gaming. It is not like i haven't play F2P before, jsut that i have to wait till my annual pass is over before killing the last sub.

    That's fine, I'll rephrase my wording then.

    "Good luck on being treated as a second-cass citizen in every game."

    The only reason developers keep you non-paying players in F2P games is to entertain the paying demographic.

    100% accurate. 

  • BlueSage13BlueSage13 FT CAMPBELL, KYPosts: 22Member
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Good luck on spending more on F2P to enjoy the game.

    Don't worry. I will join the majority of MMO players in the US, and pay nothing. I will let teh whales to subsidize my gaming. It is not like i haven't play F2P before, jsut that i have to wait till my annual pass is over before killing the last sub.

    That's fine, I'll rephrase my wording then.

    "Good luck on being treated as a second-class citizen in every game."

    The only reason developers keep you non-paying players in F2P games is to entertain the paying demographic.

     

    They do provide a lot of entertainment...as they are willing to risk more with said free account. :)

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  • CalmOceansCalmOceans BergenPosts: 2,273Member
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    Of course. It is only fair that the pay customers goet some advantage, don't you think?

    Like I said, if you enjoy being a second-class citizen in every game and hop from game to game F2P is a viable alternative, but don't pretend like this is a good deal.

    Players who don't spend a dime in a F2P game are kept in the game for one reason and one reason only, it is to entertain the paying customers, once your function is up, usually after about 1 month into the game, the power of the cash shop items increases and you become irrelevant.

     

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon

    I pay for every F2P game that I like.  I don't pay for the ones I don't and then I don't play them either.  While I do spend money on them it's usually $50 - $80 per year which is less than any sub game I've ever played.  So good luck throwing all your money down the drain with your sub.

    I make decent money and can afford several subs.  I have money because I don't throw it all away on a non-existent moral argument.  Feel free to cry because I'm laughing.  The power to control my spending and not be locked into an endless recurring fee is quite powerful and I'm enjoying that immensely.

    There isn't a game currently published in the West that I think is worth a subscription.  I enjoy my F2P and B2P games way more than any sub game out and I have more game choices now than ever before.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by nariusseldon Originally posted by CalmOceans Good luck on spending more on F2P to enjoy the game.
    Don't worry. I will join the majority of MMO players in the US, and pay nothing. I will let teh whales to subsidize my gaming. It is not like i haven't play F2P before, jsut that i have to wait till my annual pass is over before killing the last sub.
    That's fine, I'll rephrase my wording then.

    "Good luck on being treated as a second-class citizen in every game."

    The only reason developers keep you non-paying players in F2P games is to entertain the paying demographic.




    If the people not paying anything are having fun, what difference does it make why the developers are keeping the players?

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    Of course. It is only fair that the pay customers goet some advantage, don't you think?

    Like I said, if you enjoy being a second-class citizen in every game and hop from game to game F2P is a viable alternative, but don't pretend like this is a good deal.

    Players who don't spend a dime in a F2P game are kept in the game for one reason and one reason only, it is to entertain the paying customers, once your function is up, usually after about 1 month into the game, the power of the cash shop items increases and you become irrelevant.

     

    Why isn't it a good deal when i am having fun paying nothing?

    Games are not that important that i need to pay for attention. I play PS2 a bit now .. and it is a great deal. Very fun. Now if i want the newest sniper rifle, i can pay $7 to get it now, or wait for weeks. It is still fun without it.

    So i really don't care the reason ... as long as i have some fun. And i probably will be gone before a month is up anyway. It is not like there is a lack of other games to play, right?

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by CalmOceans
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    Of course. It is only fair that the pay customers goet some advantage, don't you think?

    Like I said, if you enjoy being a second-class citizen in every game and hop from game to game F2P is a viable alternative, but don't pretend like this is a good deal.

    Players who don't spend a dime in a F2P game are kept in the game for one reason and one reason only, it is to entertain the paying customers, once your function is up, usually after about 1 month into the game, the power of the cash shop items increases and you become irrelevant.

    You mean like in rift now where my sub is still active but because I didn't pay the extra micro-transaction fee for Storm Legion I'm at a disadvantage compared to everyone else who did?  Oh, I guess extra DLC and rmt/MT fees are okay if you're also paying a sub on top of that.

    I play mmos to be around other gamers while they're gaming.  So yeah, I will enjoy that time.  What they spend doesn't concern me and isn't my business to nose into.  It's odd to me that subscription proponents are so concerned about what everyone else is doing with their own money.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member

    The funny thing is that i am more than capable to deciding how to have fun, and some will come in speaking as if i won't be having any fun.

    Well ... if i am not .. i will do something else .. duh!

  • BlueSage13BlueSage13 FT CAMPBELL, KYPosts: 22Member
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    The funny thing is that i am more than capable to deciding how to have fun, and some will come in speaking as if i won't be having any fun.

    Well ... if i am not .. i will do something else .. duh!

    Cause you have nothing invested in said game.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by BlueSage13
    Originally posted by nariusseldon The funny thing is that i am more than capable to deciding how to have fun, and some will come in speaking as if i won't be having any fun. Well ... if i am not .. i will do something else .. duh!
    Cause you have nothing invested in said game.


    Charging a player money for a game they don't have fun playing isn't going to make the game fun to play. If a player is having fun in a game, they will invest time into the game, even if they don't spend money on the game.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by BlueSage13
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    The funny thing is that i am more than capable to deciding how to have fun, and some will come in speaking as if i won't be having any fun.

    Well ... if i am not .. i will do something else .. duh!

    Cause you have nothing invested in said game.

    Of course not? Why would i? I have lots of fun with lots of games without investing much. So?

  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon

    Good for you.

    Just one question. If there was an amazing game (I mean really a game of your dreams) released tomorrow which would be charged by lets say 20 USD / month, would you subscribe or not?

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • BlueSage13BlueSage13 FT CAMPBELL, KYPosts: 22Member
    Originally posted by coretex666

    Good for you.

    Just one question. If there was an amazing game (I mean really a game of your dreams) released tomorrow which would be charged by lets say 20 USD / month, would you subscribe or not?

    I always have one sub game and one free game that I go back to--(server down/ game breaking glitches/ etc., etc.)  =]

     

    Current sub game: TSW

    Current free game: LoL with full skins for 6 toons. :)

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  • TillerTiller Portland, ORPosts: 4,921Member
    Ok I refuse to take the bait of one poster in this thread, but I do want to add that B2P seems to be the new prefered model for MMOs and I will gladly accept this.

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  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Somewhere, NCPosts: 1,582Member Uncommon

    I'm the exact opposite. I refuse to play F2P games. I just cancelled my TSW account which I had just recently reactivated due to it jumping on the F2P nonsense bandwagon.

    <3

  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Posts: 5,316Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    My WOW annual pass is finally up. So i cancelled prompty. This will be my last sub game (MMO or otherwise).

    Not that i don't play F2P games before, but now .. it is all F2P for all the MMOs i will play.

    Looks like TSW may go F2P in the future too .. anyone want to venture a guess of when that will happen?

    It's allready gone f2p.  Just received an email from them.

     

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