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GPU opinion needed..

AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon

So I recently built my PC and i'm have a few issues..

I'm using a gigabyte 7950 WF3 on a gigabyte z77 UD5H board with I5-3570k, 16gb 1600mhz gskill ram. PSU is seasonic x 650w.

That said, my GPU is absolutely unoverclockable. I can't go beyond its factory settings without freezing up my PC, even if I increase the voltage on the card. The card doesn't seem to overheat however on idle it is at 45-50c,  The temps would reach 55c when running 2 active WoW copies one on ultra, other low both on 1440.

I'm also having driver failures quite common in WoW aswell, they don't crash my system just the game I can usually close out WoW once I gain control of the PC after 15-20seconds. I also had 1 boot that showed no display, had to hard reset and it booted.

Think I should RMA the card? The fact the clocks can't go beyond stock worries me a little.. only 10mhz over stock I crash.. so i'm worried it may turn out to having a $300 paper weight. Also the was 1 instance of no display on boot kinda made me think its the gpu. I'm not sure what to do here.

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  • karmathkarmath Posts: 829Member Uncommon

    OP, I have the exact GPU and MOBO and I am able to get my 7950 at around 1150mhz without much trouble, I have also seen benchmarks with the card at 1300mhz.

    Something is definatley a miss, I would definatley RMA the card.

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    ya I just wasn't sure how they would handle an RMA based on it not being overclockable and the drivers aren't really their fault.. either way card smells funny -.-
  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 18,045Member Uncommon

    Cant say I have any experience with Seasonic, but the PSU might be underperforming.

    You dont have any extra harddrives and other stuff you can temporarily turn off to see if that makes a difference?

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon

    I don't think it is the PSU, I was able to take the CPU to 4.2 on 1.2v and had no issues. However i've moved it back to stock. The gpu I could increase by 10-30mhz and it would be an instant lockup on stock volt.

    Also i've only got an SSD atm.

  • karmathkarmath Posts: 829Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Loke666

    Cant say I have any experience with Seasonic, but the PSU might be underperforming.

    You dont have any extra harddrives and other stuff you can temporarily turn off to see if that makes a difference?

    I would have said it could be a PSU issue if it wasnt a seasonic, their pretty much the best maker of PSU's atm. They supply many of the bigger known brands who just relabel them.

     

    OP, do you have an older GPU you can throw in to test? It would be pretty telling if you could OC the crap out of an old card.

     

  • miguksarammiguksaram Fort Meade, MDPosts: 826Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Loke666

    Cant say I have any experience with Seasonic, but the PSU might be underperforming.

    You dont have any extra harddrives and other stuff you can temporarily turn off to see if that makes a difference?

    Unless that is a lemon PSU the Seasonic X-650 is a solid power supply so it's highly unlikely that would be the case.  While I can't say for sure, never RMA'd through Gigabyte, if it was advertised as an OCable card using their own software and it is still unable to OC I would definitely attempt to RMA it based on those merits alone.

    I recently had to RMA my wifes ASUS GTX680 DirectCU II OC edition because while it worked it every bench test and in any applicatoin other than games, opening a modern game for more than 10-15 minutes would always end in a RSOD (totally blank red screen).  Turned out that was a common problem for some of the Kempler cards so they had no issue whatsoever with the RMA request.  It's not the same situation but I do feel it's at least similar in that the card wasn't totally hosed but still didn't perform to the standard the company claimed it should.

    BTW, what were/are you using to attempt to OC the card?

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    I've used Afterburner and powertune neither had success. 
  • miguksarammiguksaram Fort Meade, MDPosts: 826Member Uncommon

    Is this your card?

    http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Mini-Displayport-PCI-Express-Graphic-GV-R795WF3-3GD/dp/B007581QHG

    It is highly possible you simply had bad luck and got a bottom of the barrel bin GPU which was just enough to pass specs but not good enough to OC.  If that is the case that sucks royally and I would certainly try my hardest to get a RMA if possible.  It might not be AMD's top GPU but it shouldn't have to be in order to OC even a little, especially with an aftermarket cooler which is suppose to allow for such things.

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon

    Ya, got mine from newegg, they don't have them in stock either -.- Seems like they pulled whatever cards they could to fullfill the last orders.. i got my card the day before they went out of stock.

    As for my old GPU i do have a 5830 that i know can OC a little with no issues.. i may test it out tomorrow see what happens.

  • miguksarammiguksaram Fort Meade, MDPosts: 826Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aori

    Ya, got mine from newegg, they don't have them in stock either -.- Seems like they pulled whatever cards they could to fullfill the last orders.. i got my card the day before they went out of stock.

    As for my old GPU i do have a 5830 that i know can OC a little with no issues.. i may test it out tomorrow see what happens.

    As long as you registered the card within the first month of purchase you should be able to go through Gigabyte instead of Newegg (if Newegg in fact cannot help you).

  • jdnewelljdnewell Spring Hill, TNPosts: 2,150Member Uncommon

    I have a 7870 that I cant OC any at all without it locking up in games. Even mild OCing does not work.

    I just leave it at stock settings and it does fine. For me it was not worth the hassel of RMA or trying to return. I generally replace a GPU every couple of years anyways and the 7870 does what I need it to do at stock.

    Being able to get even a mild OC would be nice for sure. Unless you just have to OC then that 7950 at stock settings should be enough to run the hell out of any games recently released. It might be worth the hassel for you, it just wasnt for me.

    Hopefully it will work out for you either way =)

  • RidelynnRidelynn Fresno, CAPosts: 4,179Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Aori

    That said, my GPU is absolutely unoverclockable. I can't go beyond its factory settings without freezing up my PC, even if I increase the voltage on the card. The card doesn't seem to overheat however on idle it is at 45-50c,  The temps would reach 55c when running 2 active WoW copies one on ultra, other low both on 1440.

    I think - unless you bought a "factory overclock" that absolutely nothing guarantees that any piece of silicon will go beyond it's advertise frequency. And even in the case of a factory OC, you only get whatever the print on the box - not 1Mhz more. ~If~ your able to OC it beyond that - congratulations. But you aren't paying for anything over the specs printed on the box, so you shouldn't expect anything over what's printed on the box. If you do get some overclocking out of it, take what you can get and be happy. And if you don't - then you still have a nice piece of silicon that does exactly what it claims it would do when you bought it.

    If the card has issues while at stock - you have a perfectly valid case to return it under warranty. That is something different entirely.

    If your only reason is that it won't overclock - you can probably send it in for a refund and restocking fee (same as if you just wanted to return it because you didn't want it), so long as your within the whatever-day window and follow the rules for open-box returns.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Posts: 14,788Member Uncommon
    Not all cards have much in the way of overclocking headroom.  If AMD knew that all Tahiti GPUs coming back from the fabs could easily hit 1 GHz without requiring excessive voltage, they would have made the stock speed higher.
  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

     


    Originally posted by Aori

    That said, my GPU is absolutely unoverclockable. I can't go beyond its factory settings without freezing up my PC, even if I increase the voltage on the card. The card doesn't seem to overheat however on idle it is at 45-50c,  The temps would reach 55c when running 2 active WoW copies one on ultra, other low both on 1440.

     

    I think - unless you bought a "factory overclock" that absolutely nothing guarantees that any piece of silicon will go beyond it's advertise frequency. And even in the case of a factory OC, you only get whatever the print on the box - not 1Mhz more. ~If~ your able to OC it beyond that - congratulations. But you aren't paying for anything over the specs printed on the box, so you shouldn't expect anything over what's printed on the box. If you do get some overclocking out of it, take what you can get and be happy. And if you don't - then you still have a nice piece of silicon that does exactly what it claims it would do when you bought it.

    If the card has issues while at stock - you have a perfectly valid case to return it under warranty. That is something different entirely.

    If your only reason is that it won't overclock - you can probably send it in for a refund and restocking fee (same as if you just wanted to return it because you didn't want it), so long as your within the whatever-day window and follow the rules for open-box returns.

    i only overclock in mild cases mostly just to see what i have, the card specs are perfectly fine for me at stock.. i've used a 5830 on 1440p so a stock 7950 is leaps and bounds better for me. 

    I was just concerned that it couldn't budge past 900mhz even on desktop it would lock up at 910mhz, i've had countless driver issues and i dont know if its a conflict of GPU/MOBO or just shitty AMD/Blizzard software.

    I also updated to the beta drivers 12.11 the most recent revision and my temps have dropped dramatically, from 45c idle to 30c. I'm not sure why that is, but it happened last night.

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