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I shared my opinion and broke the rules. WTF!!

Cod_EyeCod_Eye jarrowPosts: 1,016Member

I was infractured for the post below and they swiftly deleted it.  This is what Anet has come to?  give an opinion whether I was correct in that opinion/thought doesnt really matter.  What really is annoying though is that they have threads on the first page that are probably a lot more provoking than what I created.  The Moderator note is even more laughable from my perspective.

 

 

 

 

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This is an automated message. Your post in Original team not running this game anymore?was infracted.

Your original post in Original team not running this game anymore?:

I sat down and had some real thinking about recent events both ingame and in the forums. The severe lack of communication from both Colin and Brian and the recent sale of shares to Nexon in NCsoft. Nobody from Arenanet seems interested to put to bed players fears about hot subjects in the forums.

Would you think I’d be right in thinking then that Guild wars 2 is no longer controlled by the same people who brought us this game? Have Colin and Brian and their team been given a new project to work on, and that the game is now under the influence of someone from Nexon or some other body that has their own ideas and what they want to do with this game?

No need for tin foil hats on this one, just a general feel I have about this game now, and feel its going to go in a different direction that I was sold on, well it already has imo.

 

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  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    If that is the whole story, than that is pretty bad.
  • fenistilfenistil GliwicePosts: 3,005Member
    I wonder what mmorpg.com mean by "such threads".  I am of opinion that they should be more specific.
  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by fenistil
    I wonder what mmorpg.com mean by "such threads".  I am of opinion that they should be more specific.

    This wasn't posted here. The mods here are actually pretty awesome and have a high tolerance rate.

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148 1, NJPosts: 6,690Member
    It is called damage control. This just proves even more there is no accountability from developers. 
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  • RazperilRazperil Lewiston, MEPosts: 289Member

    You broke their forum Code of Conduct, plain and simple. Opinions, etc, etc, etc, are all held accountable no matter if you think you did no wrong. These rules are in all forums so I suggest you read them again to make sure you do not receive another infracture.

    P.S- Your opinion on your topic could have caused problems. You honestly do not know for sure if the original team is gone. You got what was due for doing it. Live with it like we all have when we get infractures, warnings,  and bans for having opinions as well. It's really good advice :)

  • Cod_EyeCod_Eye jarrowPosts: 1,016Member
    Originally posted by Razperil

    You broke their forum Code of Conduct, plain and simple. Opinions, etc, etc, etc, are all held accountable no matter if you think you did no wrong. These rules are in all forums so I suggest you read them again to make sure you do not receive another infracture.

    P.S- Your opinion on your topic could have caused problems. You honestly do not know for sure if the original team is gone. You got what was due for doing it. Live with it like we all have when we get infractures, warnings,  and bans for having opinions as well. It's really good advice :)

    Have you actually looked at the official forums and seen what threads are there and the opinions others have placed? those threads are still there, and I would say some of them are a lot more strong in opinions than what I put.

  • jdnewelljdnewell Spring Hill, TNPosts: 2,150Member Uncommon

    I bet if his "opinion" would have been along the lines of - Best Game ever- That would have been perfectly fine.

    But since his " opinion' is a little negative with a genuine concern of probably many players. Well then thats a problem.

    Hmmmmm........

  • RoxtarrRoxtarr Freeland, MI, MIPosts: 1,122Member

    Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

     

    If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
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  • AlberelAlberel LondonPosts: 1,121Member

    The ANet mods infract and delete any negative threads. They also merge threads like mad which makes it very difficult to hold proper discussions. I've noticed they've loosened their grip a bit in the last week but they're still some of the most agressive mods I've seen.

    As for the OP's thread, yeah it was a genuine discussion topic, it was speculation and asking for opinions, there wasn't anything overly negative or agressive in it. At most it was critical and suggesting a possible explanation for the failures. There's no reason to delete a thread like that.

    FYI I'm also of the opinion that Colin and Brian have either left or been moved somewhere. Jon Peters has also vanished since his dealings with the ranger community. The mod's tendency to shut down discussions rather than responding to them is actually fuelling the theory as well. The last few weeks have been a major PR disaster for ANet...

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by Roxtarr

    Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

     

    That was exactly what I was thinking. He was trying to guild the lilly and got caught.

     

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    Read the YELLOW highlighted line - you called out staff and it got deleted and then banned. Plain and simple.

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  • AlberelAlberel LondonPosts: 1,121Member
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by Roxtarr

    Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

     

    That was exactly what I was thinking. He was trying to guild the lilly and got caught.

     

    If you read the GW2 official forums much you'd notice that his opinion is actually quite a widely held suspicion at this point. There are a lot of posts lately that make inferences to the same effect, the OP is just the first person to try and openly discuss it. It's a valid discussion topic in my opinion; if management of the team has changed then we deserve to know as it will change the direction of the game (as has already happened).

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,995Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by biggarfoot

    I was infractured for the post below and they swiftly deleted it.  This is what Anet has come to?  give an opinion whether I was correct in that opinion/thought doesnt really matter.  What really is annoying though is that they have threads on the first page that are probably a lot more provoking than what I created.  The Moderator note is even more laughable from my perspective.

     

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    This is an automated message. Your post in Original team not running this game anymore?was infracted.

    Your original post in Original team not running this game anymore?:

    I sat down and had some real thinking about recent events both ingame and in the forums. The severe lack of communication from both Colin and Brian and the recent sale of shares to Nexon in NCsoft. Nobody from Arenanet seems interested to put to bed players fears about hot subjects in the forums.

    Would you think I’d be right in thinking then that Guild wars 2 is no longer controlled by the same people who brought us this game? Have Colin and Brian and their team been given a new project to work on, and that the game is now under the influence of someone from Nexon or some other body that has their own ideas and what they want to do with this game?

    No need for tin foil hats on this one, just a general feel I have about this game now, and feel its going to go in a different direction that I was sold on, well it already has imo.

     

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    Reading what the moderator posted it sounds like you created your post in the wrong section of the forums, perhaps under the Support section rather than the general game section and it would appear they didn't delete your thread, they moved it over to the proper category.

    Edit: Did you follow their advice and send in an appeal of your moderation?

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  • Pretty sure I saw a Guild Wars 2 forum somewhere else on this site...
  • jinxxed0jinxxed0 columbia, SCPosts: 838Member

    The same thing happens here on this site. The moderaters get upset when you make a comment about games they like. It's a pretty goofy setup on forums. Forums aren't worth hiring decent people, let alone paying them. Moderators on forums are just people on power trips. I doubt anet directly would just delete your post.

     

    Pretty sure I'll either get a warning or another ban for this post as well. I've said less worse things than this and it's happened. It just proves my point though.

  • rdrakkenrdrakken Gotham, FLPosts: 426Member

    The topic has been done to death and I for one am glad they are finally deleting them.

    Nexon is a great company, they have bought out MANY companies in the past and did not take creative control of the games from their makers yet...they are not EA. All Nexon is going to do is boost Anet with a ton of cash...you do know they are the second largest gaming company on the planet now right?

  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common
    Originally posted by madazz
    Originally posted by fenistil
    I wonder what mmorpg.com mean by "such threads".  I am of opinion that they should be more specific.

    This wasn't posted here. The mods here are actually pretty awesome and have a high tolerance rate.

    high tolerance rate?  thanks, i needed a laugh this morning.

    I got a ban because I told someone to 'stop lying' and posted proof as to the fact they were indeed lying.

  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis

    Read the YELLOW highlighted line - you called out staff and it got deleted and then banned. Plain and simple.

    So that forum rule gives ANet to power to remove any post that even mentions the company or staff no matter what it's about, yeh that's much better. (psst, it's not really better, it's much worse; no more free speech).

    If the OP did get that post deleted then it's bad. The post clearly shows they don't really know if the GW2 team is different for anyone that can actually read english. It was used as a way to exaggerate their point.. a way of saying 'this isn't the same game anymore'

    Plus, the moderators notes don't even make any sense.. unless it was in the wrong section.

  • HalandirHalandir nnPosts: 758Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Edit: Did you follow their advice and send in an appeal of your moderation?

    Erm... If/when he does that he will discover a whole new level of red tape.

    Basically if you appeal given the link to an email (that you get with your infraction) you recieve a return email 10 minutes later with a link to NCSoft's support system and not ArenaNets. Difference being ArenaNet seems to usually respond within 24 hours - NCSoft: Somewhere between a week and infinity!

    How do I know? Well I am waiting for a response.

    I had the audacity to respond with: What???

    When someone said Thanks ArenaNet (Was in the title but I doubt he got an infration) and proceeded to explain that he realized that ArenaNet were the developers behind CoX.

    It was a complete surprise to me and I responded: What???

    And OFC I promptly recieved an infraction...

    And YES: What??? is worthy of an infraction on GW2 Forums... Talk about sensitive!

    (Hint: Hit the links for an image of SS or it did not happen)

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  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Posts: 1,008Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by rdrakken

    The topic has been done to death and I for one am glad they are finally deleting them.

    Nexon is a great company, they have bought out MANY companies in the past and did not take creative control of the games from their makers yet...they are not EA. All Nexon is going to do is boost Anet with a ton of cash...you do know they are the second largest gaming company on the planet now right?

    What a bunch of hogwash.  Try typing "Nexon" in Urban Dictionary and see how many "Nexon is a great company" results you get.  I'll save you the trouble.  None.  They are just like, if not worse than EA.  They are going to ruin the MMORPG industry with their P2W cash shops, treadmills, and their overall greed. Mark my words. 

    To the topic of the GW2 forums.  I challenge anyone to post anything that does not agree with the recent change to post on their forum.  Those moderators are not only heavy-handed, they are abusive in their authority.  I have seen posts deleted for simply +1 other threads.  It can be as benign as simply disagreeing with another poster who sucked up to Anet.  It is unfathonable what is going on in those forums.  Bans are being dished out left and right at an alarming rate to decent paying customers who are simply voicing their displeasure, in a reasonably respectable manner, regarding recent changes.  Those of you posting in disbelief and attempting to defend Anet have no idea.  Stop defending this company.  They do not deserve it.  I, for one, will never spend another penny on anything with the names "Arena Net," "Nexon," or NCSoft" attached to them.

     

  • PivotelitePivotelite Hamilton, ONPosts: 2,167Member

    Glad botrytis is the last person left defending GW2 and this company management is getting the heat it deserves.

     

    I was banned twice and i've had a topic locked/deleted under "trolling" when it was about 2000 words and provided suggestions to make WvW better.

     

    Is their WvW so good that me stating it has an un-countable number of flaws considered trolling to them? Can they not fathom that their game has problems?

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  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by Vannor
    Originally posted by botrytis

    Read the YELLOW highlighted line - you called out staff and it got deleted and then banned. Plain and simple.

    So that forum rule gives ANet to power to remove any post that even mentions the company or staff no matter what it's about, yeh that's much better. (psst, it's not really better, it's much worse; no more free speech).

    If the OP did get that post deleted then it's bad. The post clearly shows they don't really know if the GW2 team is different for anyone that can actually read english. It was used as a way to exaggerate their point.. a way of saying 'this isn't the same game anymore'

    Plus, the moderators notes don't even make any sense.. unless it was in the wrong section.

    There is no free speech on forums, they are private entities not run by the government.  I promise, the government isn't going to prosecute him for calling out anet.

  • GamayunGamayun LjubljanaPosts: 73Member

    I wrote and deleted a wall of text to save you the pain of quickly scrolling down. 

    In my opinion the post is not a good reason the ban someone from the forums. biggarfoot, try to appeal. I'm not sure if it'll help, but it doesn't hurt to try. 

    In the last 1/2 of the year, it seems there's been a paradigm shift inside the company, at least on some level, and it's gradually becoming more evident. The conceptual changes certainly don't look for the better to me, but if it's true that these changes are a consequence of the staff/investors' change, nothing good can come from hiding it. 

    Good reputation is hard to build, easy to lose, and extremely hard to regain once it's lost. 

    I'm not particularly optimistic about the current direction of the game, and the communication between the company and its customers.

  • blackthornnblackthornn Posts: 514Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by madazz
    Originally posted by fenistil
    I wonder what mmorpg.com mean by "such threads".  I am of opinion that they should be more specific.

    This wasn't posted here. The mods here are actually pretty awesome and have a high tolerance rate.

    thanks. needed a lol today

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  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,995Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Halandir
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Edit: Did you follow their advice and send in an appeal of your moderation?

    Erm... If/when he does that he will discover a whole new level of red tape.

    Basically if you appeal given the link to an email (that you get with your infraction) you recieve a return email 10 minutes later with a link to NCSoft's support system and not ArenaNets. Difference being ArenaNet seems to usually respond within 24 hours - NCSoft: Somewhere between a week and infinity!

    How do I know? Well I am waiting for a response.

    I had the audacity to respond with: What???

    When someone said Thanks ArenaNet (Was in the title but I doubt he got an infration) and proceeded to explain that he realized that ArenaNet were the developers behind CoX.

    It was a complete surprise to me and I responded: What???

    And OFC I promptly recieved an infraction...

    And YES: What??? is worthy of an infraction on GW2 Forums... Talk about sensitive!

    (Hint: Hit the links for an image of SS or it did not happen)

    You seem to have overlooked the moderator's reply, that your comment "What?" was basically useless and off topic, and yes, such comments are moderated regularly on official company forums, which is why I normally hang around here instead.

     

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