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ariestearieste toronto, ONPosts: 3,308Member Common
Question... i played TOR at launch for a couple of weeks and I remember there being a lot of talk about there being a "hi-res" client that basically makes all of the in-game graphics look like the same quality as is shown in cut-scenes. I believe it was available in beta, but then not put out for launch, resulting in my people crying. IIRC, there was a plan to bring it back... did that ever happen? Feel free to correct any of my mis-remembered info too.

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  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,716Administrator Uncommon
    Originally posted by arieste
    Question... i played TOR at launch for a couple of weeks and I remember there being a lot of talk about there being a "hi-res" client that basically makes all of the in-game graphics look like the same quality as is shown in cut-scenes. I believe it was available in beta, but then not put out for launch, resulting in my people crying. IIRC, there was a plan to bring it back... did that ever happen? Feel free to correct any of my mis-remembered info too.

    Yes, characters now look like their in-game cutscene versions. It's an option you have to toggle on, if I recall correctly. They're also doing some shader tweaks with the F2P launch update next week.

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  • lotapartylotaparty taxila canttPosts: 514Member
    that is very exciting news . hope my computer can handle it .will look marvelous 

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  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon

    it was introduced in patch 1.2  - that was April

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYacGjKXdj8

    "High res textures are coming with 1.2 and Bioware is working to make sure that SWTOR can be run on the low end machines as well. You can see the difference with high res textures in the screenshot below."

    Improved Character Textures

    image
    Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
    Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
    Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon

    They also completely re-worked shadows in Patch 1.4

    http://www.swtor.com/blog/developer-update-shadow-optimizations-game-update-1.4

    image
    Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
    Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
    Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  • KhebelnKhebeln BelfastPosts: 727Member Uncommon
    I love the fact that they keep improving visuals and tweeking the performance, wish some other companies would do so as well and not just think that next generation of hardware will fix it (and it usualy is not fixing it)

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  • XirikXirik Yorkton, SKPosts: 1,699Member
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61

    it was introduced in patch 1.2  - that was April

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYacGjKXdj8

    "High res textures are coming with 1.2 and Bioware is working to make sure that SWTOR can be run on the low end machines as well. You can see the difference with high res textures in the screenshot below."

    Improved Character Textures

    image   Makes me feel even better for getting a new puter.

     

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  • tiefighter25tiefighter25 Winchester, MAPosts: 937Member
    Originally posted by Khebeln
    I love the fact that they keep improving visuals and tweeking the performance, wish some other companies would do so as well and not just think that next generation of hardware will fix it (and it usualy is not fixing it)

    I'm sorry, but are you referring to SWTOR?

  • negativf4kknegativf4kk WorthingPosts: 377Member Uncommon

    nice tweaking they doing. Remember playing the game on 40-60 fps. Now with no hardware change got 0.3 fps in a fight or if i start moving. and that the same weather i run low or very high graphic settings. No reply on forums. And its ongoing problem since 1.4 for many

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=553243

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=553091

     

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  • lotapartylotaparty taxila canttPosts: 514Member
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61

    They also completely re-worked shadows in Patch 1.4

    http://www.swtor.com/blog/developer-update-shadow-optimizations-game-update-1.4

    oh thanks for the info . really looking forward to playing it :)

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  • KhebelnKhebeln BelfastPosts: 727Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by negativf4kk

    nice tweaking they doing. Remember playing the game on 40-60 fps. Now with no hardware change got 0.3 fps in a fight or if i start moving. and that the same weather i run low or very high graphic settings. No reply on forums. And its ongoing problem since 1.4 for many

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=553243

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=553091

     

    Maybe something is wrong with your hardware, for me the fps actualy got better not to mention game visuals.

    Its still not as good as lets say TSW with huge fights, but its same for pretty much every no dx11 game that is limited by CPU.

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  • negativf4kknegativf4kk WorthingPosts: 377Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Khebeln
    Originally posted by negativf4kk

    nice tweaking they doing. Remember playing the game on 40-60 fps. Now with no hardware change got 0.3 fps in a fight or if i start moving. and that the same weather i run low or very high graphic settings. No reply on forums. And its ongoing problem since 1.4 for many

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=553243

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=553091

     

    Maybe something is wrong with your hardware, for me the fps actualy got better not to mention game visuals.

    Its still not as good as lets say TSW with huge fights, but its same for pretty much every no dx11 game that is limited by CPU.

    http://www.swtor.com/fr/community/showthread.php?t=552350

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=537874

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=540273

    I am running TSW and Planetside2 absolutly fine so its not my pc.

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Swtor prefers AMD cards
    Tsw is the other way and prefers nvidia cards

    That may be your issue.
  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    Swtor prefers AMD cards
    Tsw is the other way and prefers nvidia cards

    That may be your issue.

    I have NVidia GTX 580 and I don't have any fps issues. I have the latest driver 310.33. On fleet with 200+ players I have fps from 40-60. On planets consistent 60+. I am playing everything on high settings.

    I know some people have problems, I don't think though that it is graphic card issue, more computer configuration issue.

     

    Edit. I tried to play with Ambient occlusion on, but it lowered my fps down to 30. need a better card for this.

    Edit 2: I have 30" monitor and play on resolution 2560x1600

    image
    Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
    Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
    Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  • lotapartylotaparty taxila canttPosts: 514Member
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    Swtor prefers AMD cards
    Tsw is the other way and prefers nvidia cards

    That may be your issue.

    I have NVidia GTX 580 and I don't have any fps issues. I have the latest driver 310.33. On fleet with 200+ players I have fps from 40-60. On planets consistent 60+. I am playing everything on high settings.

    I know some people have problems, I don't think though that it is graphic card issue, more computer configuration issue.

     

    Edit. I tried to play with Ambiet occlusion on, but it lowered my fps down to 30. need a better card for this.

    Edit 2: I have 30" monitor and play on resolution 2560x1600

    wow .that is an awesome monitor :P .

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  • ByntBynt Atlanta, GAPosts: 35Member
    I have two Nvidia GTX 550 that I run in SLI.  Last night in fleet with 240 people around and moving around on my speeder, I was getting around 70 fps.  I do realize that these cards are getting a little aged and was planning to upgrade with the January 1st sales though.  I have ambient occlusion turned off as well.
  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon

    Someone asked about characters textures improvements after 1.2. Here are few screenshots of my characters in real game, not cutscenes.

    imageimageimageimageimageimage

    image
    Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
    Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
    Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  • ThorkuneThorkune Eastern, KYPosts: 1,828Member Uncommon

    I just wish the game wasn't on a rail system of exploration. All of the starter worlds were depressing since you had to follow the paths and could not venture off of them to explore. I really hope they eventually revamp them. They could redo them one at a time and make the game much better. I remember the first time I landed on Tatooine and thought that I was going to finally get to explore a planet...then I hit one of the out of bounds zones and logged out of the game.

    I would really like to play it again, but I need exploration in a game.

     

     

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member

    Hi-Res graphics only affects how you see your Avatar, though? (post 1.2)

    Other characters around you are still low-res?

     

    Also, shadows are the death of good frame rates, unless you turn them off ...

     

    They were good at launch, but it took a $5,000 computer to appreciate them.

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  • WhitebeardsWhitebeards TokyoPosts: 778Member
    I like the new changes. I played only a month at release. And the upcoming changes to shader and shadow look promising. I always loved the way SWTOR looked.
  • Br3akingDawnBr3akingDawn a City, CAPosts: 1,356Member Uncommon
    So gonna try this out once its F2P and with the graphics update.

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  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Karteli

    Hi-Res graphics only affects how you see your Avatar, though? (post 1.2)

    Other characters around you are still low-res?

     

    Also, shadows are the death of good frame rates, unless you turn them off ...

     

    They were good at launch, but it took a $5,000 computer to appreciate them.

    You don't need that expensive computer. Mine is definitely no 5 k, not the worst but I have single card and have it on very high settings.

    I think other characters have high res too. I will make some screenshots later. Right now I can post just my companion...

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    image

    PS. And yeah most of my male toons look like him LOL I simply adore Quinn...

    Theseares one of my favorite pics of my assasin...  he looks so roughly handsome here...and look at this imperial soldier's armor... seems to me hi res...

    imageimageimage

    image
    Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
    Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
    Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon

    Character Level of Detais affects both players and non-players 

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    image
    Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
    Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
    Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  • AhnogAhnog Keller, TXPosts: 231Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by negativf4kk

    nice tweaking they doing. Remember playing the game on 40-60 fps. Now with no hardware change got 0.3 fps in a fight or if i start moving. and that the same weather i run low or very high graphic settings. No reply on forums. And its ongoing problem since 1.4 for many

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=553243

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=553091

     

    I've not run into these problems. The game gives me consistently high performance. Your system maybe?

     

    Time of this report: 11/12/2012, 03:30:01
           Machine name:
       Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.120821-1629)
               Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
           System Model: System Product Name
                   BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
              Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 FX-62 Dual Core Processor,  MMX,  3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
                 Memory: 3326MB RAM
              Page File: 671MB used, 5561MB available
            Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
        DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
     

    Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 640
         Manufacturer: NVIDIA
            Chip type: GeForce GT 640
             DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
           Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0FC1&SUBSYS_36453842&REV_A1
       Display Memory: 2048.0 MB
         Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
              Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
      Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200

     

    As you can see my system is low end for SWTOR except for the video card.

    Ahnog

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