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Ok, been doing some reading on darkfall, and there must be a hesitation in my mind for AoC because I have not subbed. So I am an old gamer, I like PVP and challenges. My major problem with games today is that they are too easy. I am fed up with LOTRO. I loved Shadowbane and if it still existed would sub in a heartbeat. I have playe EQ, EQ1, Asheron's Call, CoV, Lotro, EVE, Rift, WoW, GW1, AoC, Shadowbane and some games I cannot remember - am old, so What is good to sub out there? Something that is cahllenging, hopefully some pvp - not arena style for me it's either full loot pvp or pve - arena is not it for me. I would go back to EVE but I got locked into doing 2 accounts - 1 mining and 1 transporting and I don't think I want to do that but then I would be wasting those toons. So please give me some ideas. note f2p is not an option cause I hate it so.
last note: GW2 is too expensive, cannot afford that much in 1 shot right now.
Currently bored with MMO's.