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This game sounds like the possible savior to MMOs!

MercArcherMercArcher fort wayne, INPosts: 57Member

Finally someone is starting from scratch, making their own MMO game engine. Being able to fully controll everything about their own engine will be refreshing over the limitations of recent MMOs.

Three faction PvP is back! DAoC is the undesputed open world PvP game and it hasn't been sucessfully copied yet. With the lead developer of DAoC being the lead developer here I think we have a chance!

The stamina system is quite possibly the most interesting PvP mechanic i've seen in a LONG time. I'm really looking forward to it it adds a large amount of depth.

Fully voiced, dynamic content. SWTOR started the fully voiced, and add in GW2 dynamic system and you have a great questing system.

Ultimate Skills are another wonderful ideas. 0 mana, 0 CD skills that become castable from how you do in combat? I love it!

Back to the trinity. After GW2 we learned that the trinity exsists for a reason. They are trying to keep a similar action feel while going back to the method that works.

"BRD style Instances" Gone are the days of linear instances. Go where you want mazes with multiple paths!

Not a wow-clone. They aren't doing the mistake of so many MMOs recently of copying WoW. Granted WoW was a great game, but if people wanted to play wow they would play wow.

 

From the information released so far this sounds like it has the possibility to be one amazing game. I'm really looking forward to following the development and trying the betas.

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  • ZekiahZekiah Aurora, COPosts: 2,499Member

    "Savior to MMOs"

    Don't think I've ever heard that one before.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon
    Beware of hype

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  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,994Member Uncommon

    The folks attempting to create Citadel of Sorcery are truly working on an innovative title that would revolutionize the MMORPG space, this really is iteration number 18 of the standard theme park MMO with some DAOC style RVR grafted on to the end game.  See WAR.

     

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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  • MercArcherMercArcher fort wayne, INPosts: 57Member
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    The folks attempting to create Citadel of Sorcery are truly working on an innovative title that would revolutionize the MMORPG space, this really is iteration number 18 of the standard theme park MMO with some DAOC style RVR grafted on to the end game.  See WAR.

     

    I doubt with that concept CoS could even break 1million subs. Sure it will be great for people who want a sandbox MMO, but there aren't that many of them. It would lack a centralized end game which is what most people are looking for. Not minecraft as an MMO.

  • Johnie-MarzJohnie-Marz La Puente, CAPosts: 865Member
    Originally posted by MercArcher

    Finally someone is starting from scratch, making their own MMO game engine. Being able to fully controll everything about their own engine will be refreshing over the limitations of recent MMOs.

    Three faction PvP is back! DAoC is the undesputed open world PvP game and it hasn't been sucessfully copied yet. With the lead developer of DAoC being the lead developer here I think we have a chance!

    The stamina system is quite possibly the most interesting PvP mechanic i've seen in a LONG time. I'm really looking forward to it it adds a large amount of depth.

    Fully voiced, dynamic content. SWTOR started the fully voiced, and add in GW2 dynamic system and you have a great questing system.

    Ultimate Skills are another wonderful ideas. 0 mana, 0 CD skills that become castable from how you do in combat? I love it!

    Back to the trinity. After GW2 we learned that the trinity exsists for a reason. They are trying to keep a similar action feel while going back to the method that works.

    "BRD style Instances" Gone are the days of linear instances. Go where you want mazes with multiple paths!

    Not a wow-clone. They aren't doing the mistake of so many MMOs recently of copying WoW. Granted WoW was a great game, but if people wanted to play wow they would play wow.

     

    From the information released so far this sounds like it has the possibility to be one amazing game. I'm really looking forward to following the development and trying the betas.

    I agree with quite a bit of what you say (Other than the hype of the title of course)

    But After pointing out all that the game is, the one thing it isn't is, an Elder Scrolls MMO. 

    So as long as people don't think of it as an elder scrolls MMO maybe they will enjoy it. But if you are looking (Like I am) for an Elder Scroll MMO then, then we are going to have to look elsewhere.

  • negativf4kknegativf4kk WorthingPosts: 377Member Uncommon

    Game is getting hyped like another everage single player RPG with build-in multiplayer, hidden under well know tittle.

     

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  • PsyMike3dPsyMike3d AthensPosts: 388Member Uncommon
    i think we have enough MMO saviors...............
  • MercArcherMercArcher fort wayne, INPosts: 57Member

    Another thing I forgot. Charging attacks changes a whole lot of PvP mechanics especially when eveyone can interrupt on no cooldown with stamina.

     

    The PvP in this game is going to be amazing.

  • EntinerintEntinerint brooklyn, NYPosts: 843Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MercArcher

    Another thing I forgot. Charging attacks changes a whole lot of PvP mechanics especially when eveyone can interrupt on no cooldown with stamina.

     

    The PvP in this game is going to be amazing.

    So, what's your position at Zenimax again?

    Or are you in Bethsoft's PR department?

    (sounds like a fun job, I'm jealous)

  • PyukPyuk Eugene, ORPosts: 691Member Uncommon

    How's that Cool-Aid tasting, OP? Must be awesome! I bet ESO will be a WoW killer, too, huh? WoW with an ES skin - what could go wrong? Worked pretty bitchin' for SWTOR. Looky all them GDCO awards they got, after all!

     

    //end sarcasm

    I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.

  • VyethVyeth Fayetteville, NCPosts: 1,459Member
    Originally posted by MercArcher
    Originally posted by sandboxy
    I don't know if you (OP) are genuinely as clueless as you seem to be or are you just trolling..

    Its pretty clear that all the doomsayers and "wowclone" people are the ones trolling.

     

    Not to mention all the lore. TES has some of the most established lore in all of gaming.

    This alone is why I am keeping an eye on it.. If they can manage to add much of that lore through the whole series of games into an MMO experience, that would be worth my price of admission right there.. Imho..

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  • monarc333monarc333 New York, NYPosts: 615Member Uncommon

    Slow your roll son. Lets put some brakes on the hype train before you inadvertently ruin this game. We all know what over hype can do to a game in this genre, and escpecially on this website.

    But, you will always have people against this game because of how divergent this game appears to be from the actually ES games. Thats just a fact.

    If you care about this game then lower the hype...

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,994Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MercArcher
    Originally posted by sandboxy
    I don't know if you (OP) are genuinely as clueless as you seem to be or are you just trolling..

    Its pretty clear that all the doomsayers and "wowclone" people are the ones trolling.

     

    Not to mention all the lore. TES has some of the most established lore in all of gaming.

    The people over at Bioware thought they had the most established lore in all of the known Universe, they found out that lore is pretty far down on the list of what's important when developing a successful MMORPG.

    It's all about the gameplay in the end, the lore could be totally unknown.

     

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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  • ConnmacartConnmacart OsloPosts: 681Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vyeth
    Originally posted by MercArcher
    Originally posted by sandboxy
    I don't know if you (OP) are genuinely as clueless as you seem to be or are you just trolling..

    Its pretty clear that all the doomsayers and "wowclone" people are the ones trolling.

     

    Not to mention all the lore. TES has some of the most established lore in all of gaming.

    This alone is why I am keeping an eye on it.. If they can manage to add much of that lore through the whole series of games into an MMO experience, that would be worth my price of admission right there.. Imho..

    Yeah most of the lore is useless.  Unless of course they dropped the idea of putting it a 1000 years before the singleplayer games.

  • GoldenArrowGoldenArrow TurkuPosts: 1,187Member Uncommon

    The RvR is strong in this one.

    None of that pointless GW2 WvWvW crap.

  • SiveriaSiveria Saint John, New BrunswickPosts: 1,200Member Uncommon
    Inb4 it turns out to just be the newest wow clone on the market, I have no faith in mmorpg devs anymore at all.

    Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

    A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

    or

    B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

    Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  • ste2000ste2000 londonPosts: 4,705Member Uncommon

    The OP must have read a new Lasagne recipe by mistake.

    Really from the info we got so far, TESO look more like SWTOR with TES skin.

    I don't know where you get the impression this could be the saviour of MMO.

    If Zenimax do not add some Sandbox (I said some) in TESO, this game will go down the drain faster than the Bioware game.

  • ZagavaVonnZagavaVonn Akron, OHPosts: 249Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61
    BIOWARE of hype

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  • SiveriaSiveria Saint John, New BrunswickPosts: 1,200Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MercArcher

    Finally someone is starting from scratch, making their own MMO game engine. Being able to fully controll everything about their own engine will be refreshing over the limitations of recent MMOs.

    Three faction PvP is back! DAoC is the undesputed open world PvP game and it hasn't been sucessfully copied yet. With the lead developer of DAoC being the lead developer here I think we have a chance!

    The stamina system is quite possibly the most interesting PvP mechanic i've seen in a LONG time. I'm really looking forward to it it adds a large amount of depth.

    Fully voiced, dynamic content. SWTOR started the fully voiced, and add in GW2 dynamic system and you have a great questing system.

    Ultimate Skills are another wonderful ideas. 0 mana, 0 CD skills that become castable from how you do in combat? I love it!

    Back to the trinity. After GW2 we learned that the trinity exsists for a reason. They are trying to keep a similar action feel while going back to the method that works.

    "BRD style Instances" Gone are the days of linear instances. Go where you want mazes with multiple paths!

    Not a wow-clone. They aren't doing the mistake of so many MMOs recently of copying WoW. Granted WoW was a great game, but if people wanted to play wow they would play wow.

     

    From the information released so far this sounds like it has the possibility to be one amazing game. I'm really looking forward to following the development and trying the betas.

    A small correction to OP's post, DAoC's pvp is not openworld, its one zone, Openworld would mean there is pvp everywhere which isin't true. if TESO is fully open world pvp, that alone will kill alot of potental subscribers off, Open world pvp mmo's tend to do piss poorly due to them being populated by greifers and generally unwanted types of players. If they are smart they will make it like daoc, each faction has their own area's, then there is a huge zone like daoc's frontier where all the rvr, keep taking etc takes place.

    Honestly though? best savior to mmorpgs would be the person whob lows up all the wow servers so the game has to be cancelled, once wow-like mmo's become unpopular we'll suddendly see dev's actually trying again.

    Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

    A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

    or

    B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

    Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    It's more than 1 zone in daoc, its a big area. And thats just on core servers. On mordred the entire world is pvp.

    TESO by the sounds of it has the whole of oblivion landmass dedicated to pvp, that's a pretty big place. Also it is THE endgame.

    It is a simmilar setup to daoc. There's 2 provinces of pve content for each faction and the central province - cyrodil given over to rvr. Again on core servers, don't know if they are going with the coop and full pvp servers like daoc also, but I think they should.
  • GoldenArrowGoldenArrow TurkuPosts: 1,187Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ste2000

    The OP must have read a new Lasagne recipe by mistake.

    Really from the info we got so far, TESO look more like SWTOR with TES skin.

    I don't know where you get the impression this could be the saviour of MMO.

    If Zenimax do not add some Sandbox (I said some) in TESO, this game will go down the drain faster than the Bioware game.

    Seems like very few (including you) have actually watched the developer interviews when the game was originally announced. The game will be far from a typical WoW clone.

    A) Moba style combat system, (few skills + ultimates), stamina meter for defensive mechanics (dodge/cc removal/etc..), skills that require positioning and extra actions (i.e AoE spells that allow you to throw fireballs without having the mentioned skills) and combining them with your skills (GW2 style combo fields).

    B) Uniquely flexible talent trees that allow you to widely customize your character, not locked to single role and not all over the place like TSW style.

    C) 3 way RvR with a goal of capturing the middle city with additional benefits including dungeons/raids that are only open to the conqueror. Heavy endgame emphasis on RvR.

    D) Different classes for every faction, not sure if they are mirrors or actual classes on their own.

    E) Room-based dungeon system where you have the beat the whole room to progress through the dungeon. No random pulling, when you enter the room, the whole room comes after you and reacting to that is the key to survival.

    F) Engine of it's own although it was originally designed using HERO engine as basis. SWTOR engine couldn't run a 3-way RvR so they won't be using that one.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Op:
    Just to point out, you made a mistake with "return of trinity"

    TESO has no agro mechanics, and no traditional tank skills like + threat moves and taunts. Expect something more like gw1 or coh as far as group mechanics go. E.g. not a wow style rigid trinity, but not a gw2 style no trinity.
  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Golden:
    I heard it was using a heavily modified version of the skyrim engine, which kinda makes sense as its the decendent of game bryo used by oblivion, fallout 3, daoc and rift.
  • UkiahUkiah Austin, TXPosts: 273Member
    Originally posted by MercArcher
    Originally posted by sandboxy
    I don't know if you (OP) are genuinely as clueless as you seem to be or are you just trolling..

    Its pretty clear that all the doomsayers and "wowclone" people are the ones trolling.

     

    Not to mention all the lore. TES has some of the most established lore in all of gaming.

    Ima let you finish an all, but SWTOR had one of the most established lores OF ALL TIME.

  • MercArcherMercArcher fort wayne, INPosts: 57Member
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    Op:
    Just to point out, you made a mistake with "return of trinity"

    TESO has no agro mechanics, and no traditional tank skills like + threat moves and taunts. Expect something more like gw1 or coh as far as group mechanics go. E.g. not a wow style rigid trinity, but not a gw2 style no trinity.

    They will havean agro system, it just won't be as rigid as traditional MMOs, and everyone can use defensive abilities such as block for when they do get agro. They have also mentioned Tanks, and healers specifically showing that there will be the trinity.

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