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GTX 690 with gw2 low fps!

mansour1mansour1 uaePosts: 6Member

hi guys im new here my english isnt great but ill try my best

i bought new pc so i can play gw2 with smooth but the last stress test i tryed playing all set to max im just geting 30-50 fps i dont have any issue with anther games bf3 120-180 fps max setting crysis 2 90-160 fps and all my drivers up to date i tryed the beta vga update but still the same thats my system info

 

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System Information

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Time of this report: 8/24/2012, 10:02:41

       Machine name: HNR-PC

   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)

           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: System manufacturer

       System Model: System Product Name

               BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/04/12 02:00:43 Ver: 21.05

          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz (12 CPUs), ~3.2GHz

             Memory: 16384MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 16332MB RAM

          Page File: 2087MB used, 30574MB available

        Windows Dir: C:Windows

    DirectX Version: DirectX 11

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI

 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode

 

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Display Devices

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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690

       Manufacturer: NVIDIA

          Chip type: NVxx

           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

         Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_1188&SUBSYS_26903842&REV_A1

     Display Memory: 4014 MB

   Dedicated Memory: 1966 MB

      Shared Memory: 2047 MB

       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)

       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor

      Monitor Model: Panasonic VT50

         Monitor Id: MEIA296

        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (50.000Hz)

        Output Type: DVI

        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um

Driver File Version: 8.17.0013.0142 (English)

     Driver Version: 8.17.13.142

        DDI Version: 11

       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1

  Driver Attributes: Final Retail

   Driver Date/Size: 5/15/2012 03:48:00, 18044224 bytes

        WHQL Logo'd: Yes

    WHQL Date Stamp: 

  Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-52C8-11CF-7C5B-9D061FC2C535}

          Vendor ID: 0x10DE

          Device ID: 0x1188

          SubSys ID: 0x26903842

        Revision ID: 0x00A1

 Driver Strong Name: oem39.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section033:8.17.13.142:pciven_10de&dev_1188

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       D3D9 Overlay: Supported

            DXVA-HD: Supported

       DDraw Status: Enabled

         D3D Status: Enabled

         AGP Status: Enabled

im not pro in pc technologies so plz make it simple thanks :)

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Comments

  • FinitFinit Smithsburg, MDPosts: 145Member
    Hi, I'm not 100% sure about this, but this is a known problem with NVIDIA graphics cards.  They usually release a new update on drivers for major releases such as GW2.  The update was either released today or early next week, I think.  To make sure, I would head to guildwars2guru.com and head to the technical forum there.  I was browsing and saw this same problem brought up there, and I can't exactly remember the response.  

    My Guild Wars 2 Blog can be found here: Divinity's Reach

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,777Member Uncommon

    What is wrong with that fps? It is more than playable at 30fps, you should feel happy! :) You don't get extra gear or anything because your fps is a high score. o.O hehe

    You may need to do some driver updates. I had to use a beta driver that ArenaNet suggested from the login screen. v304.79 It may get you some more! 

    edit: also make sure vsync is turned off.

    Aerowyn and I have GTX 670s and here is the settings she told me to use. I got a just over 100fps in the norn area yesterday on Best Appearnace; And I got an awesome 2 handed sword for getting over 100fps! j/k

    first start with best appearance in the slider 
    don't use supersampling it's not with it just leave that setting at default. 
    only things I change are take Reflections to Terrain & Sky from All 
    Take shadows from Ultra to High, then i turn OFF post processing if you like the bloom effect you can leave it on but I don't care for it. That's about it you should be able to leave everything else at max with no issues. 

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • ariboersmaariboersma Yankton, SDPosts: 1,802Member

    I do know that the newest driver(at least I think its the newest) was doing worse than older drivers so perhaps they will give a fix soon.

     

    edit: ty Krimzin below me thats the info I so horribly was trying to give you =D

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  • KrimzinKrimzin Fort Worth, TXPosts: 545Member Uncommon

    Do not use 301.42.

    Go into the beta section and get latest.

    304.something.

    Just because I'm a gamer doesn't mean I drive a Honda.


    It's an Orange thing
  • KroxMalonKroxMalon swindonPosts: 409Member
    The 690 is not yet the most optimised. But it wil be soon.
  • cronius77cronius77 Fairfax, VAPosts: 1,347Member Uncommon
    not sure how anyone can say with that setup that 30 frames per a second is acceptable. I get double that with two 6950s and a oc 6100fx. You either have a driver issue or its just not optimized yet for your card. Not sure which ive always stuck to ATI myself . I know that a lot of issues stem from drivers not installing exactly right and with ati at least sometimes you have to install the driver sets a couple of times and use driver sweeper to finally get it to install right. ATI is notorious for releasing buggy drivers then fixing them later. Im pretty sure nvidia is no different.
  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member

    If you are using the latest nvidia offical drivers then I can understand your low fps, they are bugged, try the beta ones.

    I have the beta ones and I have a smooth ride.

    The thing with the offical drivers is that your card go to idle speed hence you lose shitload of fps, that's the bug.

    The two beta drivers are.

    304.48 it works well

    305.67 are the ones that i think will be the offical GW2 drivers,they are more optimized for GW2.

    Don't forget to do a clean driver install, use drive sweeper.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,471Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by cronius77
    not sure how anyone can say with that setup that 30 frames per a second is acceptable. I get double that with two 6950s and a oc 6100fx. You either have a driver issue or its just not optimized yet for your card. Not sure which ive always stuck to ATI myself . I know that a lot of issues stem from drivers not installing exactly right and with ati at least sometimes you have to install the driver sets a couple of times and use driver sweeper to finally get it to install right. ATI is notorious for releasing buggy drivers then fixing them later. Im pretty sure nvidia is no different.

    What they are saying is that 30FPS is good enough.  You naturally jerked with "that setup".

  • heartlessheartless Brooklyn, NYPosts: 4,993Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim

    305.67 are the ones that i think will be the offical GW2 drivers,they are more optimized for GW2.

    I've had a decent performance increase with 305.67. OP, might want to try to do a clean install with those.

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    using the 670 myself and can hit 100-130 fps in most places(although i use a limiter to cap at 60) and id highly suggest going with the 305.67 drivers and make sure vsync is off

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  • benit59benit59 Canton, GAPosts: 114Member Uncommon

    I gained a significant FPS boost by using the 304.79 driver on my gtx460. I was getting better frame rates than you on my crappy PC. :) It's amazing what a difference a driver change can make.

     

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    I think that card runs in sli because its a dual chip card. I would see if you can turn sli off. The sli profile might not be ready for gw2.

    I would give that a shot and see what happens
  • MeowheadMeowhead New Carlisle, INPosts: 3,716Member
    Originally posted by Amjoco


    don't use supersampling it's not with it just leave that setting at default. 
    only things I change are take Reflections to Terrain & Sky from All 
    Take shadows from Ultra to High, then i turn OFF post processing if you like the bloom effect you can leave it on but I don't care for it. That's about it you should be able to leave everything else at max with no issues. 

     Wait.... what's wrong with using supersampling?  It's not with it?  Do you mean it's not in yet?

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,777Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Meowhead
    Originally posted by Amjoco


    don't use supersampling it's not with it just leave that setting at default. 
    only things I change are take Reflections to Terrain & Sky from All 
    Take shadows from Ultra to High, then i turn OFF post processing if you like the bloom effect you can leave it on but I don't care for it. That's about it you should be able to leave everything else at max with no issues. 

     Wait.... what's wrong with using supersampling?  It's not with it?  Do you mean it's not in yet?

    Aerowyn is the graphic card queen. Those are her suggestions and it helped my fps quite a bit. She could answer you much better than me! :)

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  • MeowheadMeowhead New Carlisle, INPosts: 3,716Member
    Originally posted by Amjoco

    Aerowyn is the graphic card queen. Those are her suggestions and it helped my fps quite a bit. She could answer you much better than me! :)

     I went from mid to high 50s to low 50s with supersampling, but I thought it made it look better.  I might just be delusional!  I can't see the difference between 30 and 60 fps, so less than 10 is acceptable to me, especialyl if graphics look better .xD

  • fiontarfiontar Dana, MAPosts: 3,719Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    using the 670 myself and can hit 100-130 fps in most places(although i use a limiter to cap at 60) and id highly suggest going with the 305.67 drivers and make sure vsync is off

    The 305.67 drivers are what I've been using and my FPS was about 40% lower on the most recent stress test than it was on the last 4 hour stress test, using the same drivers. I'm using a GTX570.

    Other than both having an NVidia card, my system seems to have nothing in common with the OP, so it doesn't seem to be processor, processor brand, chipset, etc... You and others are proof it isn't a universal NVidia problem either.

    I did a clean re-install of the 305.67 drivers last night. I made sure the driver was set to let the 3D application decide settings.

    I'm just tossing this in here to note that switching to the 305.67 drivers is not a guaranteed fix.

    Aerowyn, could you post all your NVidia Global Settings and note anything that may be set different under the GW2 profile? I'd like to see if any settings there might have something to do with this.

    Here are mine:

    Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
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  • fiontarfiontar Dana, MAPosts: 3,719Member
    Downloading the 304.79 drivers as a back up plan.

    Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
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  • Size-TwelveSize-Twelve Lansing, MIPosts: 494Member

    If you've tried all the obvious stuff like driver updates etc, you might wanna check out this article on CPU parking to see if it sounds familiar:

    http://ultimatecomputers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3644c

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Meowhead
    Originally posted by Amjoco

    Aerowyn is the graphic card queen. Those are her suggestions and it helped my fps quite a bit. She could answer you much better than me! :)

     I went from mid to high 50s to low 50s with supersampling, but I thought it made it look better.  I might just be delusional!  I can't see the difference between 30 and 60 fps, so less than 10 is acceptable to me, especialyl if graphics look better .xD

    the difference between default and supersampling to me is very subtle.. for me I judge how well a game runs if I can spin the camera in 360 degrees over and over in differn't spots without any stutter or framerate spikes.. doing this gives me smooth play pretty much anywhere.. I find with supersampling I get hitches when doing this and more frequent FPS spikes.. this is why I say supersampling is not worth it IMHO

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by fiontar
    Downloading the 304.79 drivers as a back up plan.

    it really depends on the card some seem to run better on 304 series some better on 305.. only way to tell what works best for anyone is try both and test it out:)

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • MeowheadMeowhead New Carlisle, INPosts: 3,716Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    the difference between default and supersampling to me is very subtle.. for me I judge how well a game runs if I can spin the camera in 360 degrees over and over in differn't spots without any stutter or framerate spikes.. doing this gives me smooth play pretty much anywhere.. I find with supersampling I get hitches when doing this and more frequent FPS spikes.. this is why I say supersampling is not worth it IMHO

     It is pretty subtle, but on the other hand, I hvaen't spent a lot of time spinning the camera 360 degrees repeatedly, so I hadn't noticed any hitching. :D

    ... and I literally can't tell the difference between 58 fps and 52 fps, but I did seem to notice some texturing improvements with the supersampling.

    I'll try the spinny thing, now I'm curious. :)

  • mikunimanmikuniman Keene, NYPosts: 312Member
    Originally posted by Krimzin

    Do not use 301.42.

    Go into the beta section and get latest.

    304.something.

    301.42 was locking up on me also in GW2, and once it did it was like that in every game until I do a restart. Wracked my brains with video adjustments with no luck. First time I've had a graphics issue since I built the box about a year ago.  I've installed the nvidia beta driver 304.79 hopfully at head start it helps.

  • ajayazirajayazir RC, BCPosts: 108Member

    I always feel that these type of posts are trolls, if you got a flagship card you should atlest be aware that you run into different problems than affordable cards.

    Anyways, dual gpu cards will usually run into driver problems with new games. You can change your settings with the SLI configuration since new games aren't usually optimized for it.

    I'd monitor performance with either MSI afterburner or NVIDIA precision, check GPU useage and Temps when you are playing the game. I doubt it's bottlenecking on the CPU.

    What mobo and psu are you using? from the Crysis and the BF3 fps that you're getting, it really just seems that you need to wait for a driver update, if not try out older drivers and see if anything changes.

     

  • mikunimanmikuniman Keene, NYPosts: 312Member
    Originally posted by ajayazir

    I always feel that these type of posts are trolls, if you got a flagship card you should atlest be aware that you run into different problems than affordable cards.

    Anyways, dual gpu cards will usually run into driver problems with new games. You can change your settings with the SLI configuration since new games aren't usually optimized for it.

    I'd monitor performance with either MSI afterburner or NVIDIA precision, check GPU useage and Temps when you are playing the game. I doubt it's bottlenecking on the CPU.

    What mobo and psu are you using? from the Crysis and the BF3 fps that you're getting, it really just seems that you need to wait for a driver update, if not try out older drivers and see if anything changes.

     

    I disagree about the troll comment, usually I find technical issues with pcs on forums from fellow gamers to be more helpful then the manufacturer site. Of course like any forum weeding through the bs is expected.

  • HiromantHiromant JüriPosts: 87Member Uncommon

    nVidia is releasing new drivers next week to specifically address GW2 issues. The game is also still not fully optimized and is very cpu dependent, pretty much no-one is getting 60+ fps in big fights.

    Your current drivers, 301.42, have an issue with GW2 that causes a roughly 30% performance loss. Upgrade to 304.79 beta for a sizeable fps boost.

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