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I think a lot of the hate is fake...and misdirected.
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so you are basing your whole current opinion on the game over a very very small minority of people that will play GW2 and who post on this forum?
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Fans of GW2 should just enjoy their game and not worry about the "hate". Anytime a player base hypes the game up to the point of evangalism is going to have people taking shots at their game. This game is one of the most hyped games of all time, maybe even more than TOR. I judge that based on the thread/post count in the GW2 forums here.
I think some people enjoy seeing players who built their expectations on a house of cards become disappointed. Those who are not hyped up about this game see that it is not much different from dozens of other MMOs that failed expectations. You can say that it is much different, and point to many different designs, but the core is the same. Instanced themepark.
Waiting on: The Repopulation
Comeon now Aerowyn, look at it this way, as annoying as it is, I can't help but think that at least some good has come out of it:
1. I'm sure a bunch of us can write this under "what I'm doing before realease", it's at least something to do...
2. Helped me, idk about others, feel better about the game and things that were added into the game and things that I enjoyed... although now it feels more like I'm pounding my head against the wall and regretting it not being the 25th yet.
ya... that's about all I got. Hope it helps you feel a little bit better. GW2 community appreciates you, we swear.
Well I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. Yes, there are tons of trolls for every game that do everything you're talking about. But the OP paints way too broad a brush with people whom don't like the game.
For me for example - I like GW2, but I like the WvW. I can't stand the PvE. If all it had was their ranked PvP and PvE, then I would probably fall into that category of dislike. That's GW2 on it's own merit and has nothing to do with 'fear' that it will take away subs from another game.
GW2 fandom has had a long history of annoying a large group of gamers from other games. I find this thread a little funny looking into it in that light.
Not sure about the hate threads, but the "Convince me to buy GW2" threads are totally legit....
/sarcasm...
heh I know I'm just saying there is a big difference between someone disliking a game for whatever reason and having a discussion about that and what we have going on in these forums.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Why not just do what any normal sane person would do and just move on with their life. Instead of forum crusading about it like some other nutjob.
I see a title I don't like I play something else. I don't feel the need to make statements and crusade against things I don't like. That crazy to me. It would be a full time job. But people don't want to discuss the nutty part of it all. They would have to admit to a few things about themselves
I couldn't stand those threads in any game. It's like why? Do your own research. You either like a game or you don't. That simple. I'm not in the business of conversion.
I got an idea, lets bump every single hate thread, not post in it, just bump it, and see if that fixes anything. Then someone will go "I feel like [insert problem here] is a huge issue", pulls up GW2 general discussion and looks at first page... oh they alrdy covered that... nevermind...
Edit: Sad part is most of those threads got closed because of too many trolls and bashing. sigh...
which is fine and could be a good discussion but how it would be presented here would be something like " I enjoy WvWvW but DE's suck and are nothing more that Rifts all are the same and have no point. There is no skill required to PVE and you never die, all PVE is nothing but a zerg fest..."
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Good call , I think you really hit the nail on the head here ...In the early spring I called a hater out who had made over 800 negative posts about GW2 , in time alone that had to be at least $20,000 worth of effort ,I can't imagine that was just a mislead little fan boy from another game
heh well most are locked
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
a minority that will persist in any community. on the internet and not.
thats just how population samples work.
As a GW2 fan I extended the olive branch. I agree that people should be allowed to dislike a game. I believe ALL RPGs deserve to co-exist with each other. There should be choice. All games have flaws including GW2, but to attack someone for being "hyped" about a game is wrong. It really doesn't matter what game it is.
I doubt there is a single topic that at least 1 thread has no covered yet that's wrong with the game. I would honestly be shocked to hear one. Sorry, let me refraze that, legitimate reason.
true but to base a whole game community on a single forum seems ridiculous to me
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
This.. for some reason GW2 fans want to feel like they are the victims. Like GW2 fanatics haven't been bashing every other game out there while waiting for GW2 to come out.
Understand that there are people on both sides of the spectrum and lay off this holier than thou attitude because it's simply unbecoming. I'm 99% sure if someone posts something negative about GW2 in some random insignificant forum like Eden Eternal or something, a horde of GW2 fans will be there to white knite it and repell the evil.
This happens for every major MMO release. Go ahead and act like ToR didn't get the same amount if not worse hate when it was being released.
Well plenty of things could be at work there. It could be someone whom was actually attacking Rift in the past saying how GW2 was a virtual AI system of constantly changing world design. I'm not joking. If you look a year and half ago, you'll find some of those posts. Now they see that they had unrealistic expectations and went to the other extreme.
It could be a bitter Rift fan looking for revenge. It could be a WoW fan or SWTOR fan or TSW fan just looking to make you upset. It could someone whom actually likes GW2, but wants to troll. I guess after the whole TSW thing, I kind of just see this as Groundhog's Day. Which is funny because I went through it with Rift before, but meh different game same crap.
Anyways, you all should just be laughing because unlike my fav game (TSW) - GW2 is not going to fail expectations. It's not going to go under. It's not going to see its company ANet most likely go out of business.
You guys have a blockbuster on your hands and anyone whom doesn't see that is delusional.
Yes. If I tried to be reasonable I could be, I just don't care enough about the game. If I was going to play it, I would just overlook them as a very small minority like you said. I try to avoid posting about it, but certain threads (which are usually more general) just grab at me. I don't go out of my way to "hate".
Well, it's not a single forum. Not by a long shot.
but you see my point i don't mind having a sensable discussion about what people don't like about the game but those threads almost never exist.. It seems 90% have some sort of agenda like you say and who knows from where or why.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
perhaps I don't frequent other forums but Quicklyscott is basing it off just this forum like he says
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I don't think hating the game because of it's fanatic fans is the rigtht way to go, but I see where you are comming from.
Heck, just look at these threads in GW2. Any thread that brings up the slightest criticism is immediatly reported and eventually locked by the equally overzealous mods. And many of the zealots think it's cool or funny that those threads are locked...albiet...some of the threads certainly deserve it, but seriously...the report button /thread locking is way out of hand.
The best thing to do is realize the game is going to release in several days and the forums will settle down once the crazy folk get to play their game. I know I will be playing....
Well... most of those "hate" threads may be the out for the same reason why PK happens in open world PvP games (notice that i used "PK" term, not the "gank" one). There are plenty of "people" that get frustrated IRL (For example: Boss is yelling at them, their wife dont want to 'give it' to them, some bully put their head into toilet in case of younger scholars...) so they need to find a way to "empty" themselves somehow.
So considering an 'persistant online world', they find someone who actually enjoy and is happy in its game and is happilly picking flowers. Right after they decide to make the gameplay of earlier mentioned happy player, less happy in the same way their life is less happy. So they transform his happy flower picking into constant frustrating runs from graveyard.
In the very similar manner, when they find on MMORPG forum, a happy group of people eagerly awaiting their upcoming game, they decide to make their day at forums less happy by provoking with such a "Ha Ha, i will laugh 3 months from now when rest of you will cry when your game falls", "I dont like this game/feature, so it will be a worst video game and biggest fail ever released since E.T.", "Why do you like this game, i dont?", "This game cannot make me happy because im so f*king frustrated when others are happy as well" threads.
Really, people, try to find some things in life that makes you a bit more happy person and doesnt involve crapping into other's cornflakes. It really helps
Main MMO at the moment: Guild Wars 2
Waiting for: Pathfinder Online