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He is 107 year old Male from Shebat, ON, Canada.
Interesting...
Don't forget the "high end armor sets" that you can "grind for if you want to" but provide "no statistical advantage".
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Arche Age will be open world that will feature open world war that will impact the player economy in the open world. Players will have opportunity to own the land with properties for different purposes and hopefully a lot of player run quests.
Guild Wars 2 offers none of the above. For W v W v W the reward will be cosmetic armor and text title and with its model design more of those text titles and cosmetic armors will come with new content and expansions.
LMAO!!!
Boy oh boy.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
I tend to respect everyone's opinion.
Sometimes I do get riled up and I can be passionate about something.
But this thought? that by NOT buying something you are some sort of Hero that is Sacrificing something for the Greater Good of the Genre(?)?
This is just too much. Stop being delusional. You are not some high and mighty crusader fighting for a holy cause, you are just a fan hating on some game because you do not like it.
Also.
Development times.
UO (Sandbox) 2 years (started 1995, released 1997)
Everquest (theme park) 3 years (started 1996, released 1999)
EVE Online (sandbox) 3 years (approximately) (started 2000, maybe. No clear date but earliest news I could find was in 2000. Released 2003)
Shadowbane (sandbox) 3 years (approx) (started 2000, maybe. no clear date but same as EVE. Released 2003)
DAoC (Theme park) 2 years (started 1999, released 2001)
SWG (sandbox) 3 years (started 2000, released 2003)
Lineage II (Theme..... Sand? wut?) 3 years (started 2000, released 2003)
WoW (theme park) 5 years (started 1999, released 2004)
Darkfall (sandbox) 8 years.... (
) (started 2001, released 2009, not your typical development time)
WAR (theme park) 3 years (started 2005, released 2008. speaking of the Mythic version here)
Age of Conan (theme park) 3 years (started 2005, released 2008)
AION (theme park) 2-3 years (started 2006, released 2008 in Korea, 2009 in the West)
SW:TOR (theme park) ??? (3-4 years) years (started ??? by 2008, Bioware announced it had "more content that all their games combined", released 2011)
Guild Wars 2 (Theme park) 5 years (started 2007, released 2012)
So looks to me that themepark or sandbox, development time is around 2-3 years. 5 if you want an exceptional game. 8 if you are reaaaaaallllllly slow.
Argument moot. next!
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
That's what strikes me as odd, and why he comes off as not only condescending, but a total hypocrite.
Maybe he's trying to bait us, I can't say for sure, but to run around the forums, claiming sandbox styled MMOS are the only true MMO, while claiming that World of Warcraft, a THEMEPARK MMO is the greatest thing since sliced bread, just gives me a headache.
A sandbox player who loves WOW funnily enough.
Not quite....
So you do you think that, in future posts on the subject, that instead of declaring:
"Death to all theme and amusement parks!"
that you might want to consider modifying your statement for clarity to something like:
"Death to all theme and amusement parks excluding WoW which I still play!"
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
I like GW2 but I would have to disagree with you. A lot of people would say the same to you... You can't see just how similar it really is....
LOL, you just proved my point. Why are you putting the development times. You can have AAA sandbox MMORPG developed in 1 year and you can have themepark AAA MMORPG developed in 5 years. The difference is $. If the sandbox MMORPG behind it had $ to put thousand of people working on it, while the themepark had $ to put less than hundred developing would determine the time it takes to develop.
Complexity of the game is the main factor, not the developed time. I could surely make a very complex themepark MMORPG, but the amount to do the same for a sandbox would take far more resources.
Well if you gotta play a themepark, might as well play the best one. What's a sandbox/MMO fan to do when all the sandboxes are full of cat turds?
Spoken by AN 11+ year MMORPG veteran, too (and constant online gamer since 1994):
Kudos to those here who bought GW2 and are amped up to play it because it is fun for you! Who cares if its a themepark or sandbox or soapbox or boxcar derby....playing a game because you are having fun is the whole reason GAMES were created! I, personally love my text titles, achievements, cosmetic armor, minipets, fun and interesting guild mates, the chance to play challenging dungeons, but not being forced to grind, etc etc etc.
So go ahead a clean toilets for fun if you want? If that is your cup of tea (pun...intended?), enjoy! As for me, i'll play GW2 until another game gains more of my interest, but other than single player FPSes (and Neverwinter!), that wont be happening for awhile for me. (PS2 and ArcheAge (you didnt even get your game of longing's name correct...there is no space) are looking interesting, but we shall see)
My current favorite games are Guild Wars 2 and DayZ. I must be a deeply conflicted person..... or I just love games of multiple flavors. The way that mmos have failed lately, there needs to be some success or companies will stop spending money on developing them. Fret not though, I see the market warming up to sandbox games though. Just look at the suprising sucess of DayZ. 1 million users for a mod of a long time pre-existing game.
And what makes you think I still play it? I've been done with WOW since its content was over well before the summer. There is a good chance too I won't be buying MOP cuz raiding for 2 years for 1-2 mounts as a reward at the end of expansion or PvPing for rating that is nothing but numbers that are abused and reset on every couple months is not my type of MMORPG.
GW2 similarities to WOW:
1. Questing system is exactly the same. Go to town quest hubs and uh...nevermind actually.
2.Talent trees vs traits...again realy realy similar in that...uh...nevermind actually.
3.Class Mechanics...this is where the games really start to look similar...Like WOW, GW2 uses the holy trinit...er...nevermind.
4.Massive WvW battles are just like uhhh, LAKE WINTERGRASP...yea totally the same thing!
5.Spvp, wow doesn't have this so can't compare.
6.Gear centric gameplay....Hit max lvl 80? Well grats, now you start grinding out your raid gear set...er...actually...nevermind.
And there you have it! Wow is similar to GW2 in that you click on things, gather things and kill things. But really aren't you just saying Apples are similar to oranges since they are both fruit?
I think what it really comes down too is GW2 isn't a 2nd job or virtual life. And that really hurts some peoples feelings who can only find gratification in an MMO like that. Gladly there are plenty of Loot grinders on the market and more coming out all the time!
man, this guy really makes it a habit to appear once a week just to troll the gw2 forums.
gw2 is going to be great and OP will eventually crack and then buy it himself.
~signed,
11yr MMO veteran
Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)
Just when I thought my day was getting boring...
Please don't use that name when you join us in GW2, it would give you away.
"My Fantasy is having two men at once...
One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
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"A good man can make you feel sexy,
strong and able to take on the whole world...
oh sorry...that's wine...wine does that..."
^agreed. And DayZ is a fun one
Hell, I still play aladdin on sega genesis sometimes, because it is fun for a bit (same with Sonic, etc etc). So many people dismiss games because they don't fit their genre of choice nowadays, and they lose out on great possible fun. I, personally, am a diehard FPS player at heart. But I've been playing RTS and MMO games almost as long and love them too (Myth: The Fallen Lords....oh when Bungie was amazing...). Play games because you love them! Who cares what others are playing or how lame others may think the game you are playing is. If you like Farmville, then play it! (you pansy. :P )
So your main argument against GW2 is that it doesn't have OWPvP with territory control or market manipulat- I mean a PvP controlled economy?
Good
GW2 PvP does have territory control that is not meant to be hoarded, this comes in the form of keeps in the WvWvW map. You fight for more than just cosmetic items and ranks:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_versus_World
I'm glad that you like WoW because AA PvE will be more like it than GW2 I imagine.
Edit: Spoken as a nine year MMO veteran.
Yea players are welcome to play GW2. It is great news for the themepark B2P with no monthly fee model.
The main reason thu why we've been stuck for a decade with bizillion of themeparks and only few poorly made sandbox MMORPG is cuz of the huge success of the well known THEMEPARK World of Warcraft.
I would like to see a AAA sandbox MMORPG before I get to see my grand grand grand children one day.
Just to get a third comment into this thread....no really there is a reason I'm making a comment.
I love how the OP thinks he is the queen bee because he's been playing MMOs for over 11 years. I'm pretty sure that is a large % of the people that post on this forum regularly (10-20% probably much more). XD
And I wonder how many of the trolls have already prepurchased, too....