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F2P Changes UPDATED: Devs listened to player feedback

TelondarielTelondariel Ottawa, ONPosts: 1,001Member

The F2P matrix was updated today after heated, negative debate from the playerbase.  This is a much better deal than before and alleviates some of the harsher restrictions seen in its first incarnation. 

 

http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=57701

 

 

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  • cyress8cyress8 Croatia, VTPosts: 832Member

    Now that is a hell of alot better.  Good Job.

    BOOYAKA!

  • kadepsysonkadepsyson sun prairie, WIPosts: 1,937Member

    WOW I am definitely impressed that they changed it so much.  I really, really like the changes they made to it.

    El Psy Congroo

  • slowpoke68slowpoke68 Chicago, ILPosts: 413Member Uncommon

    Vanguard F2P is the game I am most excited about.  I will definitely be back as a paying sub, but can't wait to have lots of people to group with.

    Go Devs!  You can really hit a homerun with this if you play your cards right.  

  • aspekxaspekx Brandon, FLPosts: 2,167Member

    great news. no excuse now not to at least *try* the game out.

    "There are at least two kinds of games.
    One could be called finite, the other infinite.
    A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
    an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
    Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse

  • AethaerynAethaeryn Kitchener, ONPosts: 1,973Member Uncommon

    "considering changing"

    "ideas we are discussing"

     

    Is the subject not misleading?  I mean they will likely do it but still the matrix has not been updated..

    I hope they do.  I now know what I will be playing if that is the case. . and I would likely sub after a few months so they win that way as well.

    Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

  • ComafComaf Chicago, ILPosts: 1,154Member Common

    A nice start.  But when I quit was when they killed the 2 faction server, which had lent so much lore to the game.

     

    I mean as a paladin, would you really be grouping with a goblin?  I grew up in AD&D and Dark Age of Camelot so I am a tad spoiled.

     

    If they bring back the 2 faction server - I know about 20 folks who will sub overnight (sorry GW2 lol).

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  • KostKost Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,975Member

    Much better!

    I would definitely come back and play with those changes.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,664Member Uncommon

    Nice! 

     

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  • sri_rishabhsri_rishabh Bellevue, WAPosts: 56Member

    These are really nice changes and IMO nothign more can be asked more for FTP from mtrix point of view

     

  • PsychowPsychow SF Giants Territory, CAPosts: 1,784Member

    If they go with the gear limitation change, that alone is enough to get my to try the game again.

     

     

  • InFlamestwoInFlamestwo HindPosts: 662Member

    Good job SoE, first time ever listening to players. Those changes were needed Thanks!

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  • gaeanprayergaeanprayer Somewhere Out There, PAPosts: 2,320Member Uncommon

    Muuuch better. I don't mind paying the higher fees, with the influx of free players having a nice money sink will be helpful. This will give people like me a chance to get elbow-deep in the game and see if we like it enough to dedicate time to it and eventually a sub fee. I'm now looking forward to trying the game past fans raved about.

    "Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."

  • IngvarIngvar TallinnPosts: 183Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by InFlamestwo

    Good job SoE, first time ever listening to players. Those changes were needed Thanks!

    Well SoE Planetside 2 team listens to the players alot and have made changes based on the feedback (even if non of us have played it yet).

     

     

    Anyway, this is a much better deal than before, in particular the chat system. In EQ2 its just so annoying that you can't talk to anyone...

  • bingbongbrosbingbongbros Vista, CAPosts: 650Member Uncommon

    eq2 f2p transition was a nightmare.

     

    vg is looking to be heading the right direction. ill probably give it another go too. first time since 30 days after launch!

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  • JimyHumuHumuJimyHumuHumu BilbaoPosts: 250Member

     wow, that was unexpected :=) Kudos to vg team and soe for listening to all the (negative mostly i bet?) feedback.

     

    only thing id be careful with is free mail usage, in case goldspammer bots return, so maybe they could up lvl req a bit. 

     

    either way, definitely going to give it a shot now, most likely subscribe after some time too. and i hope im not the only one :)

     

  • calzerocalzero Flint, MIPosts: 43Member Uncommon

    The horrible thing about Vanguard for me, is still going to be the trial service they have been running for the past few years. That coupled with massive server merges getting a decent character name is non exsistant. Every few months I go back to Vanguard to check it out make a trial account and create a character, takes longer to get a name thats not jskjakldjskfj, to work than it does to DL the game. For alot of people that do go back dont be surprised if you log into your old account that is now F2P only to be presented with a forced name change because there are 5 other characters named that on other accounts.

    I would love to see a full character wipe of all characters still on the trial island. Since those characters are not anything that cant be rerolled in a few hours, and anyone who just had low level bank alts would have moved there characters to the real content so would be exempt from the wipe.

    With the F2P model I would love to come back but I would also like to reroll and do it all over again. Without a wipe of some kind I would think twice before going back.

     

     

  • liquescentliquescent East Hartford, CTPosts: 145Member Common

    This is a step in the right direction.

  • AdamantineAdamantine NowherePosts: 3,514Member

    Personally, I couldnt care less. Either I pay for playing Vanguard, or I dont play it at all. But for f2p players, these changes are certainly nice.

  • sadeyxsadeyx leicesterPosts: 1,553Member

    I really cant see me wanting to play VG again even after f2p

     

    Each time I go and try it again it seems to get more dusty, more old and more clunky.

     

    Compared to the wave of AAA free to play titles out there now just cant see why VG would take off.

     

    At the time this was an amazing MMO,  but now its an example of a festering wounded mmo that should be put out of its misery xD

  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAPosts: 18,455Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by sadeyx

    I really cant see me wanting to play VG again even after f2p

     

    Each time I go and try it again it seems to get more dusty, more old and more clunky.

     

    Compared to the wave of AAA free to play titles out there now just cant see why VG would take off.

     

    At the time this was an amazing MMO,  but now its an example of a festering wounded mmo that should be put out of its misery xD

    Oh, I don't think it will take off.

    but the more I see mmo's get their litany of complaints, shrink and then maintain over years the more I believe that most mmo's are really made for specirid audiences and should be smaller.

    Since Vanugard is very different from many mmo's with it's huge world and multiple open (and in many cases large) dungeons, I can definitely see it's core audience expanding.

  • dazedconfusedazedconfuse Lone Grove, OKPosts: 67Member
    This is a big step in the right direction.
  • friednietzfriednietz The Study, NYPosts: 118Member

    I'm interested now. Very interested.

  • laseritlaserit Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,945Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by sadeyx

    I really cant see me wanting to play VG again even after f2p

     

    Each time I go and try it again it seems to get more dusty, more old and more clunky.

     

    Compared to the wave of AAA free to play titles out there now just cant see why VG would take off.

     

    At the time this was an amazing MMO,  but now its an example of a festering wounded mmo that should be put out of its misery xD

    Oh, I don't think it will take off.

    but the more I see mmo's get their litany of complaints, shrink and then maintain over years the more I believe that most mmo's are really made for specirid audiences and should be smaller.

    Since Vanugard is very different from many mmo's with it's huge world and multiple open (and in many cases large) dungeons, I can definitely see it's core audience expanding.

     Whole heartedly agree

    Vanguard is a deep game and it looks like SOE is going to put a decent effert into the FTP relaunch. It will definatley fill a niche thats been lacking.

    Many people will enjoy this game, there is lots to enjoy

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  • arctarusarctarus nilPosts: 2,570Member Uncommon
    Now hopefully they will put in some effort for marketing

    RIP Orc Choppa

  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common

    ive been trying to goto the link but i guess the site is down

    http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=57701

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