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TSW - The Best Animations & Combat.

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  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85

    no he throws magic over/shoots arrows over is shoulder and 90 degrees to the right or left of where he is facing. This does not happen in TSW period. 

    Instead, you can shoot straight sideways and watch the bullet leave your weapon at a 90 degree angle. It's one of the more unnerving things about their animations.

    are you talking about the WoW copy paste animations that fantasy games use? Because what you just decribed does not happen in TSW. It was built so it does not happen.

    You're wrong. I am doing it right now in TSW. Bullets literally shoot out of my gun into thin air, a tracer goes 90 degrees to the right where the enemy is and hits him.

     

    Sorry bro, you need to get on and check for yourself.

  • MaitraderMaitrader Member UncommonPosts: 389
    Originally posted by tares

    Animations and combat are not art, TSW seems to have the worst combat and animations of these MMOs: GW2, SWTOR, Tera, Aion, Rift, maybe LOTRO, Age of Conan, World of Warcraft, don't remember EQ2 but it was funner killing things there so am adding it.

    TSW ties with everquest 1 and warhammer for weakest animations and combat.

    We know it is underdone and just bad, the NPCs have very few animations and no recoil when hit by PCs and most of the animations are the exact same and even then they feel weak.

     

    A lot of players will quit TSW after launch because combat is boring, by a lot I mean over half so it isn't apples and oranges, the combat is subpar.

    you done? stop wasting peoples time in the TSW forums if you dont like it ... if you're not going to buy it, then leave the forum space to someone who will... I never post in GW2 forums... waste of my time, I think the game is caca but thats my opinion and I keep it to myself.

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  • dontadowdontadow Member UncommonPosts: 1,005
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by dontadow

    Everyone has their porn, figuring this is an argument that no one will know what wins until a game changes its gameplan.  So if you're right, this game won't be free to play within a year.  Because the only thing that can determine whats right or wrong is money.  

    exactly. 

    Just so tired of these debates, myself included. the best, the worst.  Money will tell the story.  Everyone has thier porn, these graphics and animations are your porn fine.  They aren't fine, there's more porn in the backroom. 

  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85

    no he throws magic over/shoots arrows over is shoulder and 90 degrees to the right or left of where he is facing. This does not happen in TSW period. 

    Instead, you can shoot straight sideways and watch the bullet leave your weapon at a 90 degree angle. It's one of the more unnerving things about their animations.

    are you talking about the WoW copy paste animations that fantasy games use? Because what you just decribed does not happen in TSW. It was built so it does not happen.

    You're wrong. I am doing it right now in TSW. Bullets literally shoot out of my gun into thin air, a tracer goes 90 degrees to the right where the enemy is and hits him.

     

    Sorry bro, you need to get on and check for yourself.

    Screen shot? fraps? What you are saying is not true. Sorry man. Try again. Idk maybe we are talking about different things. I don't wont to accuse you of being untruthful.

  • RamanadjinnRamanadjinn Member UncommonPosts: 1,365

    i guess i'll address the original post clearly and point out why your post isn't being very constructive.

    What you have essentially created is a situation where you are making a claim, TSW has the best of something, and then ask others to prove that it does not through video evidence of another game being superior.

    considering the subject matter is at best highly subjective there are many reasons why what you ask is unreasonable.

    i suggest you start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

    "a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false."

    and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

    "When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim."

     

    in order to be constructive i would like to suggest that you post your own video evidence, and in light of the highly subjective nature of the material, outline specific examples and comparisons that may be discussed to prove your claim.  as it is now your post is entirely too generalized.

     

     

     

  • Sameer1979Sameer1979 Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Arataki

    It really is amazing the lengths people will go to in order to convince a username on the internet that they shouldn't or should like a game.

    That fails in comparison the the lenghts a company will go to in order to convince a usename they should buy and play a game.  Advertising and marketing is a huge budget item,  EA supposedly has a huge department of people who go to forums and pretend to be fans to boost hype.  Also the left side of my screen says "One of the most important MMORPGs of our time" a TSW full page excerpt.

    It boggles my mind how anyone would think TSW's combat is acceptable.  Funcom doesn't even defend it, they said they will change everything multiple times and then havn't got around to it.  They still call them "place holders".  This is the one time I agree with Funcom, the animations do look like place holders and should be changed. 

     

    Thanks for proving you didn't even play the beta because those who have and are free from bias and any agendas would tell you the huge improvements made in animations as well as impact of weapons and sound. Idon't know why you are making up stuff and spreading wrong information..and seriously i don't even want to know.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85

    no he throws magic over/shoots arrows over is shoulder and 90 degrees to the right or left of where he is facing. This does not happen in TSW period. 

    Instead, you can shoot straight sideways and watch the bullet leave your weapon at a 90 degree angle. It's one of the more unnerving things about their animations.

    are you talking about the WoW copy paste animations that fantasy games use? Because what you just decribed does not happen in TSW. It was built so it does not happen.

    You're wrong. I am doing it right now in TSW. Bullets literally shoot out of my gun into thin air, a tracer goes 90 degrees to the right where the enemy is and hits him.

     

    Sorry bro, you need to get on and check for yourself.

    Screen shot? fraps? What you are saying is not true. Sorry man. Try again. Idk maybe we are talking about different things. I don't wont to accuse you of being untruthful.

    You don't even know this game that well. Why don't you just go in and try it for yourself?

     

    Are you even in this beta so that you can try it?

  • cutthecrapcutthecrap Member Posts: 600
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Arataki

    It really is amazing the lengths people will go to in order to convince a username on the internet that they shouldn't or should like a game.

    That fails in comparison the the lenghts a company will go to in order to convince a usename they should buy and play a game.  Advertising and marketing is a huge budget item,  EA supposedly has a huge department of people who go to forums and pretend to be fans to boost hype.  Also the left side of my screen says "One of the most important MMORPGs of our time" a TSW full page excerpt.

    It boggles my mind how anyone would think TSW's combat is acceptable.  Funcom doesn't even defend it, they said they will change everything multiple times and then havn't got around to it.  They still call them "place holders".  This is the one time I agree with Funcom, the animations do look like place holders and should be changed. 

    It also fails in comparison to the lengths a person might go to keep on complaining about a game he/she dislikes to the point that all their posts are about ranting against that game or the company it is from instead of posting on games or other things that person likes. Up to the point that you almost start to think that it isn't some eternal grudge or hatred against that company, but indeed like you said that it almost looks like that person is bought by a competitor to pretend to be a 'critic' or hater to bash other companies and their games, not as if smear campaigns or libel slandering doesn't happen in the world image

     

    Anyway, those are just reflections of course. Most of the times they're never true and only used by some as a weak attempt to via an ad hominem attack or fallacies discredit others with whom these persons disagree of opinion. Rather cheap, but hey, it happens image

  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386
    Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

    i guess i'll address the original post clearly and point out why your post isn't being very constructive.

    What you have essentially created is a situation where you are making a claim, TSW has the best of something, and then ask others to prove that it does not through video evidence of another game being superior.

    considering the subject matter is at best highly subjective there are many reasons why what you ask is unreasonable.

    i suggest you start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

    "a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false."

    and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

    "When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim."

     

    in order to be constructive i would like to suggest that you post your own video evidence, and in light of the highly subjective nature of the material, outline specific examples and comparisons that may be discussed to prove your claim.  as it is now your post is entirely too generalized.

     

     

     

    /applaud great post. 

     

    Just like when some one says "TSW animation suck." it's very subjective at best. Just like someone could say that, I can say they are the best. Who's the best painter of all time? What a dumb question right? Picaso is better than Rembrant.. Rembrant sucks... gtfo that's just silly.

     

    I wanted the 2 games to be side by side just to show how silly some can be on a topic that is so subjective. Again great post. spot on.  

     

    Do I honestly believe TSW are the best animation of any mmo of all time? Idk I think they are pretty damn good and on par with the best out there, thus the title "TSW...Best" 

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by cooper85

    I wanted the 2 games to be side by side just to show how silly some can be on a topic that is so subjective. Again great post. spot on.

    The issue is that you're using a 2 year old alpha footage of GW2 to compare to current TSW animations and combat.

    Which basically invalidates your whole point. Whatever it is.

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  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85

    no he throws magic over/shoots arrows over is shoulder and 90 degrees to the right or left of where he is facing. This does not happen in TSW period. 

    Instead, you can shoot straight sideways and watch the bullet leave your weapon at a 90 degree angle. It's one of the more unnerving things about their animations.

    are you talking about the WoW copy paste animations that fantasy games use? Because what you just decribed does not happen in TSW. It was built so it does not happen.

    You're wrong. I am doing it right now in TSW. Bullets literally shoot out of my gun into thin air, a tracer goes 90 degrees to the right where the enemy is and hits him.

     

    Sorry bro, you need to get on and check for yourself.

    Screen shot? fraps? What you are saying is not true. Sorry man. Try again. Idk maybe we are talking about different things. I don't wont to accuse you of being untruthful.

    Anyway, here you go:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKrHd820-o&feature=youtu.be

  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,726

    Not the best video for providing evidence of "good" animations and combat.  It's clearly edited and not very visible animations.  Doesn't really prove your point imo. 

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  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85

    no he throws magic over/shoots arrows over is shoulder and 90 degrees to the right or left of where he is facing. This does not happen in TSW period. 

    Instead, you can shoot straight sideways and watch the bullet leave your weapon at a 90 degree angle. It's one of the more unnerving things about their animations.

    are you talking about the WoW copy paste animations that fantasy games use? Because what you just decribed does not happen in TSW. It was built so it does not happen.

    You're wrong. I am doing it right now in TSW. Bullets literally shoot out of my gun into thin air, a tracer goes 90 degrees to the right where the enemy is and hits him.

     

    Sorry bro, you need to get on and check for yourself.

    Screen shot? fraps? What you are saying is not true. Sorry man. Try again. Idk maybe we are talking about different things. I don't wont to accuse you of being untruthful.

    Anyway, here you go:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKrHd820-o&feature=youtu.be

    Kudos to you. I was wrong. I wonder if that is just the BWE client. I doubt it, but I have not seen or did it that. Good thing I didn't call you a lier ;) 

  • tarestares Member Posts: 381
    Originally posted by Sameer1979
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Arataki

    It really is amazing the lengths people will go to in order to convince a username on the internet that they shouldn't or should like a game.

    That fails in comparison the the lenghts a company will go to in order to convince a usename they should buy and play a game.  Advertising and marketing is a huge budget item,  EA supposedly has a huge department of people who go to forums and pretend to be fans to boost hype.  Also the left side of my screen says "One of the most important MMORPGs of our time" a TSW full page excerpt.

    It boggles my mind how anyone would think TSW's combat is acceptable.  Funcom doesn't even defend it, they said they will change everything multiple times and then havn't got around to it.  They still call them "place holders".  This is the one time I agree with Funcom, the animations do look like place holders and should be changed. 

     

    Thanks for proving you didn't even play the beta because those who have and are free from bias and any agendas would tell you the huge improvements made in animations as well as impact of weapons and sound. Idon't know why you are making up stuff and spreading wrong information..and seriously i don't even want to know.

    I played all three open betas, am close to finishing the island in open beta 3.  I picked up a new weapon combo for this one, assault riffles and fists and the combat is boring me to death.   Well I only use assault rifle because it is stronger but still boring.

    Did you play beta this weekend?  Friday all day the general chat was how meh this game is and a few AO fans were like no it is awesome.  Every puzzle gets solved in general chat 20 times an hour so all quests are combat quests.  A huge issue indeed. 

    I'm not going to buy the game but since I played open beta and played this weekend and can give my imput,  I will do so.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85

    no he throws magic over/shoots arrows over is shoulder and 90 degrees to the right or left of where he is facing. This does not happen in TSW period. 

    Instead, you can shoot straight sideways and watch the bullet leave your weapon at a 90 degree angle. It's one of the more unnerving things about their animations.

    are you talking about the WoW copy paste animations that fantasy games use? Because what you just decribed does not happen in TSW. It was built so it does not happen.

    You're wrong. I am doing it right now in TSW. Bullets literally shoot out of my gun into thin air, a tracer goes 90 degrees to the right where the enemy is and hits him.

     

    Sorry bro, you need to get on and check for yourself.

    Screen shot? fraps? What you are saying is not true. Sorry man. Try again. Idk maybe we are talking about different things. I don't wont to accuse you of being untruthful.

    Anyway, here you go:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKrHd820-o&feature=youtu.be

    Kudos to you. I was wrong. I wonder if that is just the BWE client. I doubt it, but I have not seen or did it that. Good thing I didn't call you a lier ;) 

    trust me it's not just the BWE client

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  • SoandsosoSoandsoso Member Posts: 533
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Sameer1979
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Arataki

    It really is amazing the lengths people will go to in order to convince a username on the internet that they shouldn't or should like a game.

    That fails in comparison the the lenghts a company will go to in order to convince a usename they should buy and play a game.  Advertising and marketing is a huge budget item,  EA supposedly has a huge department of people who go to forums and pretend to be fans to boost hype.  Also the left side of my screen says "One of the most important MMORPGs of our time" a TSW full page excerpt.

    It boggles my mind how anyone would think TSW's combat is acceptable.  Funcom doesn't even defend it, they said they will change everything multiple times and then havn't got around to it.  They still call them "place holders".  This is the one time I agree with Funcom, the animations do look like place holders and should be changed. 

     

    Thanks for proving you didn't even play the beta because those who have and are free from bias and any agendas would tell you the huge improvements made in animations as well as impact of weapons and sound. Idon't know why you are making up stuff and spreading wrong information..and seriously i don't even want to know.

    I played all three open betas, am close to finishing the island in open beta 3.  I picked up a new weapon combo for this one, assault riffles and fists and the combat is boring me to death.   Well I only use assault rifle because it is stronger but still boring.

    Did you play beta this weekend?  Friday all day the general chat was how meh this game is and a few AO fans were like no it is awesome.  Every puzzle gets solved in general chat 20 times an hour so all quests are combat quests.  A huge issue indeed. 

    I'm not going to buy the game but since I played open beta and played this weekend and can give my imput,  I will do so.

    I am playing this week end. Chat is full of people saying this is amazing. Chat is full of people asking for help and getting it. I chose to figure out the puzzles myself instead of asking or reading a guide, you have a choice. Don't blame the game because you chose to ask for the answers. Thank-you for not playing, we will all be better off for it.

  • Sameer1979Sameer1979 Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Sameer1979
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Arataki

    It really is amazing the lengths people will go to in order to convince a username on the internet that they shouldn't or should like a game.

    That fails in comparison the the lenghts a company will go to in order to convince a usename they should buy and play a game.  Advertising and marketing is a huge budget item,  EA supposedly has a huge department of people who go to forums and pretend to be fans to boost hype.  Also the left side of my screen says "One of the most important MMORPGs of our time" a TSW full page excerpt.

    It boggles my mind how anyone would think TSW's combat is acceptable.  Funcom doesn't even defend it, they said they will change everything multiple times and then havn't got around to it.  They still call them "place holders".  This is the one time I agree with Funcom, the animations do look like place holders and should be changed. 

     

    Thanks for proving you didn't even play the beta because those who have and are free from bias and any agendas would tell you the huge improvements made in animations as well as impact of weapons and sound. Idon't know why you are making up stuff and spreading wrong information..and seriously i don't even want to know.

    I played all three open betas, am close to finishing the island in open beta 3.  I picked up a new weapon combo for this one, assault riffles and fists and the combat is boring me to death.   Well I only use assault rifle because it is stronger but still boring.

    Did you play beta this weekend?  Friday all day the general chat was how meh this game is and a few AO fans were like no it is awesome.  Every puzzle gets solved in general chat 20 times an hour so all quests are combat quests.  A huge issue indeed. 

    I'm not going to buy the game but since I played open beta and played this weekend and can give my imput,  I will do so.

    Yes been playing since yesterday and i still say you are not being honest. And no i havent seen any overwhelming negativity in chat. You get usual trolls in ever MMO but other than that most of the chat on my server involved around asking help and solving puzzles.

    It is not an opinion but a fact that Funcom improved animations and combat a lot since last beta and you were being dishonest when you said they didn't and are just making empty promises. Why should i even take anything you say after that seriously?

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Sameer1979
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Sameer1979
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Arataki

    It really is amazing the lengths people will go to in order to convince a username on the internet that they shouldn't or should like a game.

    That fails in comparison the the lenghts a company will go to in order to convince a usename they should buy and play a game.  Advertising and marketing is a huge budget item,  EA supposedly has a huge department of people who go to forums and pretend to be fans to boost hype.  Also the left side of my screen says "One of the most important MMORPGs of our time" a TSW full page excerpt.

    It boggles my mind how anyone would think TSW's combat is acceptable.  Funcom doesn't even defend it, they said they will change everything multiple times and then havn't got around to it.  They still call them "place holders".  This is the one time I agree with Funcom, the animations do look like place holders and should be changed. 

     

    Thanks for proving you didn't even play the beta because those who have and are free from bias and any agendas would tell you the huge improvements made in animations as well as impact of weapons and sound. Idon't know why you are making up stuff and spreading wrong information..and seriously i don't even want to know.

    I played all three open betas, am close to finishing the island in open beta 3.  I picked up a new weapon combo for this one, assault riffles and fists and the combat is boring me to death.   Well I only use assault rifle because it is stronger but still boring.

    Did you play beta this weekend?  Friday all day the general chat was how meh this game is and a few AO fans were like no it is awesome.  Every puzzle gets solved in general chat 20 times an hour so all quests are combat quests.  A huge issue indeed. 

    I'm not going to buy the game but since I played open beta and played this weekend and can give my imput,  I will do so.

    Yes been playing since yesterday and i still say you are not being honest. And no i havent seen any overwhelming negativity in chat. You get usual trolls in ever MMO but other than that most of the chat on my server involved around asking help and solving puzzles.

    It is not an opinion but a fact that Funcom improved animations and combat a lot since last beta and you were being dishonest when you said they didn't and are just making empty promises. Why should i even take anything you say after that seriously?

    Which animations did they improve? I saw that pistol got a slight overhaul. Everything else is the same.

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  • Sameer1979Sameer1979 Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by heartless
    Originally posted by Sameer1979
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Sameer1979
    Originally posted by tares
    Originally posted by Arataki

    It really is amazing the lengths people will go to in order to convince a username on the internet that they shouldn't or should like a game.

    That fails in comparison the the lenghts a company will go to in order to convince a usename they should buy and play a game.  Advertising and marketing is a huge budget item,  EA supposedly has a huge department of people who go to forums and pretend to be fans to boost hype.  Also the left side of my screen says "One of the most important MMORPGs of our time" a TSW full page excerpt.

    It boggles my mind how anyone would think TSW's combat is acceptable.  Funcom doesn't even defend it, they said they will change everything multiple times and then havn't got around to it.  They still call them "place holders".  This is the one time I agree with Funcom, the animations do look like place holders and should be changed. 

     

    Thanks for proving you didn't even play the beta because those who have and are free from bias and any agendas would tell you the huge improvements made in animations as well as impact of weapons and sound. Idon't know why you are making up stuff and spreading wrong information..and seriously i don't even want to know.

    I played all three open betas, am close to finishing the island in open beta 3.  I picked up a new weapon combo for this one, assault riffles and fists and the combat is boring me to death.   Well I only use assault rifle because it is stronger but still boring.

    Did you play beta this weekend?  Friday all day the general chat was how meh this game is and a few AO fans were like no it is awesome.  Every puzzle gets solved in general chat 20 times an hour so all quests are combat quests.  A huge issue indeed. 

    I'm not going to buy the game but since I played open beta and played this weekend and can give my imput,  I will do so.

    Yes been playing since yesterday and i still say you are not being honest. And no i havent seen any overwhelming negativity in chat. You get usual trolls in ever MMO but other than that most of the chat on my server involved around asking help and solving puzzles.

    It is not an opinion but a fact that Funcom improved animations and combat a lot since last beta and you were being dishonest when you said they didn't and are just making empty promises. Why should i even take anything you say after that seriously?

    Which animations did they improve? I saw that pistol got a slight overhaul. Everything else is the same.

    Just all of them? i have tried every weapon and difference is day and night. Pistols sound like pistols now and so does assault weapons. Are they perfect nope? but no denying the fact that Funcom has been working on it to improve it. 

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04

    Anyway, here you go:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKrHd820-o&feature=youtu.be

    Kudos to you. I was wrong. I wonder if that is just the BWE client. I doubt it, but I have not seen or did it that. Good thing I didn't call you a lier ;) 

    I find it hilarious that you try and act like you were being reasonable about it. Here are the things you were saying:

     

     

    All new fantasy games are shinnier versions of WoW. Down to shooting over your shoulder, and shooting 90 degrees to the right while you weapon points straight ahead. 

     

    no he throws magic over/shoots arrows over is shoulder and 90 degrees to the right or left of where he is facing. This does not happen in TSW period. 
     
    are you talking about the WoW copy paste animations that fantasy games use? Because what you just decribed does not happen in TSW. It was built so it does not happen.
     
    Screen shot? fraps? What you are saying is not true. Sorry man. Try again. Idk maybe we are talking about different things. I don't wont to accuse you of being untruthful.
     
     
     
     
    So I supose we can conclude that this game is a shinier version of WoW where you are shooting 90 degrees to the right and your weapon points straight ahead? If it applies to GW2 mechanics, why not here?
  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by heartless

    Yes been playing since yesterday and i still say you are not being honest. And no i havent seen any overwhelming negativity in chat. You get usual trolls in ever MMO but other than that most of the chat on my server involved around asking help and solving puzzles.

    It is not an opinion but a fact that Funcom improved animations and combat a lot since last beta and you were being dishonest when you said they didn't and are just making empty promises. Why should i even take anything you say after that seriously?

    Which animations did they improve? I saw that pistol got a slight overhaul. Everything else is the same.

    Now I will call you a untruther... There is nearly an independent animations for all the abilities. They "improved" (made flashier) all of them, and added new ones. Not just pistols...

    Pics, fraps?

    image

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by colddog04

    Anyway, here you go:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKrHd820-o&feature=youtu.be

    Kudos to you. I was wrong. I wonder if that is just the BWE client. I doubt it, but I have not seen or did it that. Good thing I didn't call you a lier ;) 

    I find it hilarious that you try and act like you were being reasonable about it. Here are the things you were saying:

     

     

    All new fantasy games are shinnier versions of WoW. Down to shooting over your shoulder, and shooting 90 degrees to the right while you weapon points straight ahead. 

     

    no he throws magic over/shoots arrows over is shoulder and 90 degrees to the right or left of where he is facing. This does not happen in TSW period. 
     
    are you talking about the WoW copy paste animations that fantasy games use? Because what you just decribed does not happen in TSW. It was built so it does not happen.
     
    Screen shot? fraps? What you are saying is not true. Sorry man. Try again. Idk maybe we are talking about different things. I don't wont to accuse you of being untruthful.
     
     
     
     
    So I supose we can conclude that this game is a shinier version of WoW where you are shooting 90 degrees to the right and your weapon points straight ahead? If it applies to GW2 mechanics, why not here?

    ever watch futurama when a robot is given a paradox? same concept here...:)

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • cyress8cyress8 Member Posts: 832
    Originally posted by heartless
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by heartless

    Yes been playing since yesterday and i still say you are not being honest. And no i havent seen any overwhelming negativity in chat. You get usual trolls in ever MMO but other than that most of the chat on my server involved around asking help and solving puzzles.

    It is not an opinion but a fact that Funcom improved animations and combat a lot since last beta and you were being dishonest when you said they didn't and are just making empty promises. Why should i even take anything you say after that seriously?

    Which animations did they improve? I saw that pistol got a slight overhaul. Everything else is the same.

    Now I will call you a untruther... There is nearly an independent animations for all the abilities. They "improved" (made flashier) all of them, and added new ones. Not just pistols...

    Pics, fraps?

    Ohohohoh, I wonder if he will do like Colddog and actually show some evidence. :D

    BOOYAKA!

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by cyress8
    Originally posted by heartless
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by heartless

    Yes been playing since yesterday and i still say you are not being honest. And no i havent seen any overwhelming negativity in chat. You get usual trolls in ever MMO but other than that most of the chat on my server involved around asking help and solving puzzles.

    It is not an opinion but a fact that Funcom improved animations and combat a lot since last beta and you were being dishonest when you said they didn't and are just making empty promises. Why should i even take anything you say after that seriously?

    Which animations did they improve? I saw that pistol got a slight overhaul. Everything else is the same.

    Now I will call you a untruther... There is nearly an independent animations for all the abilities. They "improved" (made flashier) all of them, and added new ones. Not just pistols...

    Pics, fraps?

    Ohohohoh, I wonder if he will do like Colddog and actually show some evidence. :D

    iv'e only noticed a couple improved not all.. my hammer ones looks pretty much all the same as do my blade ones.. pistol definatly looks better but overall I don't see a difference on a lot of them, oh yea and my shotgun one's look the same as well

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by cyress8
    Originally posted by heartless
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by heartless

    Yes been playing since yesterday and i still say you are not being honest. And no i havent seen any overwhelming negativity in chat. You get usual trolls in ever MMO but other than that most of the chat on my server involved around asking help and solving puzzles.

    It is not an opinion but a fact that Funcom improved animations and combat a lot since last beta and you were being dishonest when you said they didn't and are just making empty promises. Why should i even take anything you say after that seriously?

    Which animations did they improve? I saw that pistol got a slight overhaul. Everything else is the same.

    Now I will call you a untruther... There is nearly an independent animations for all the abilities. They "improved" (made flashier) all of them, and added new ones. Not just pistols...

    Pics, fraps?

    Ohohohoh, I wonder if he will do like Colddog and actually show some evidence. :D

    I would welcome it. Like I said, the only new ones I saw were the pistols.

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