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Open Beta(trial)? Blizzard was honest with Diablo 3, how about Arenanet???
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To tell you the truth I do not buy a game without doing the beta or playing the demo first I work hard for my money and I also value my time spent on a game so with that said ,,,,DON'T WAIST MY TIME OR MONEY.....No beta No Demo No Buy simple...
ArenaNet has already said there will not be an open beta in the traditional sense. They will use NDA-free Beta Weekend events to do their testing.
I don't see how this is 'dishonest' in any way. It's basically an open beta, but they're limiting the number of people they will have clogging up their servers and forums. Personally, I think it is smart. They will be largely hearing feedback from people who are already invested in the game, and thus also want to ensure that it is as good as possible at release. At the same time they have effectively weeded out the majority of those beta 'testers' who will do nothing but complain and/or offer ridiculous feedback for 'improvements.'
After all, aren't the paying customers the ones who ArenaNet wants to please?
gw2 doesnt even have a release date yet
why assume what it WONT offer on release for demo?
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Stop embarrassing yourself and read the previous post which i edited. I didn't use the 'mostly finished concept' phrase. infact it was used by another guy and i simply commented on that till you decided to butt in and get personal.
Sorry but it is time to hit report button now since you are more interested in flaming than having a proper discussion.
Too late.
It WILL become a trend.
You put a small brick to it as well.
Don't get me wrong I did as well as I also pre-purcharse but thing is there is always certain % of people that will buy pre-purcharse. Cause there are people that find other than GW2 games also worhty of "take all my money" like you did with GW2.
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Like the other guy said, it's also a pretty good model for the company itself. The BETA testers already have some skin in the game. That way they have an interest in making it better.
I'm just surprised they were able to get away with it so easily. I give credit to their marketing and the quality of the game that they put in the hands of the Press. They also tend to be very open overall and it's not like I'm locking myself into a subscription.
But yeah, I am now part of a trend that may or may not be good for gaming overall.
Oh please give it up. you won't lose your manhood for accepting you messed up on internet. I like how you cut the original quote. Yes i used the quote to reply to the guy i was having discussion with. It was more like a question to him. Till you decided to completey ruin a civil discussion.
Yeah, dollars do become pounds when they go to waist - and nobody wants that!
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Anyway, the game isn't finished and doesn't have a release date yet. You're assuming there will be no demo or trial available at any time, when that is almost certainly not true. It just doesn't exist yet.
If you won't buy the game without playing a demo first, then just wait for one to be released.
Even if it becomes a trend who cares? They are not giving Pre-Purchasers extra content or Leet Gear or anything like that, just access to Beta Weekends.
ANET is not an unlimited funded company, they didn't have 200 million to make this game. Most likely they were starting to run out of time and money and decided to turn to the fans to allow them the last few months of polish.
HAhaha..so i put the original quote right in your face and you still go on like a broken record? can't you read or you just wilfully ignoring it to be an irritation on purpose? also only because i disagree with practise of paying full price for a game which is work in progress and has no release date doesn't mean i dislike the game itself or have no interest in it.
Maybe if you were less emotional you will see point of other people without labeling them trolls.
You realize that this entire thread was started by someone who has already stated:
"I have waited for GW2. However, i will not buy it because i dont like what i will get. But that's just me.
I think lots of peoples will buy it expecting next gen mmo. But they will be disappointed as soon as they reach max level.
I dont want to turn away fanboys, but for me the game fail because:
- instances everywhere
- delevel/uplevel
- no world pvp/ open conflict
- pve only in hub zones
- solo unfriendly
- lame combat system with active dodge ( dungeon with no tank/healer are just way to chaotic). this will draw many many players away, not just me.
- no raids??"
I would say that their mission is accomplished.
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
The game is at least 6 months from a release lets be honest. how many beta events (open to all pre-order beta weekend events) did diablo 3 have 6 months out... why is blizzard so hush hush about there game? I don't understand. Oh thats right you want to ignore the black cat in the room, the fact that Anet has been Multitudes more open and loose with info than blizzard was 6 months pre-release.
Oh well be dam the facts i have rhetoric and a good grasp on manufactured ignorance, troll troll troll.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
So sign up for the beta, and if you are not taken in, then wait for a trial, i don't know a single mmo that don't have a trial more than a year after its release. In any case GW1 have a trail, so it seam logical they will have one for GW2.
Chrome, you are getting fanboyed to death.
Umm... just going to butt in here for a moment, as an unbiased external source, and say that you really did take his initial post the wrong way. Chrome is correct, you're kind of making a fool of yourself.
Is that one of those Zen things?
Answer me how many press weekend, and non nda beta weekends (for anyone who pre-ordered and more) did bilzard have for d3 6 months ago?
You'll find the answer proves the facts you base your agrument without merit. Thus you are wrong sir, go else where, you have been vanquised from this land.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
International forum. Sometimes you have to go to the party shirtless and barefoot. Give him a break, we are not all from Smallsville USA
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
How many BETAs did Blizzard ask people to pay to play?
GW1 had a beta - I participated in it.
Currently bored with MMO's.
What facts? that Anet released a lot of videos and information? a lot of other companies do that before release but that doesn't mean that i personally find it ok to pay for a game without a release date and that is not just aimed at GW2 . So on personal basis my argument still has a merit doesn't mean i am physically stoping you or others from buying the game.
Learn to accept other people's viewpoint maybe that itself will solve most of the bickering.
This thread needs to just be locked. I'm getting dizzy from watching all of you go around in circles...
Yeah same as usual then lol. Sad part is i am looking for ward to the game but hey you are not allowed to have your opinions if it goes against the opinions of fanbase.
Assimilate or get flamed.
Yes. When you have fully pondered the first statement, consider the following:
Two hands clap and there is a sound. What is the sound of one hand?
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.