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Would you support Raids with just cosmetic rewards

TommayTommay SalisburyPosts: 24Member
Just as guild wars 1 worked, would you support there being raids if it was purely cosmetic








Edit: messed up the poll by Accidently clicking a button:/
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  • DarkPonyDarkPony RotterdamPosts: 5,566Member

    Noq.

    Neqer.

    I can think of more fun things to do than being in an instance, annoyed with other people screwing up all the time :)

    edit: unless I gets some shinies out of it all.

     

  • CingeCinge Las Vegas, NVPosts: 120Member

    You are going to get blasted by the GW2 white knights and the mob mentality on these boards.

     

    Btw I would answer yes, more choices is better. If its cosmetic, like all gear in GW2 is, you don't have to do it if you do not want too. No different then any other aspect of the game.

  • Bobbie203Bobbie203 bristol, NYPosts: 136Member

    why would i run 30-40 minutes dungeon just to get some cosmetic fluff gear?

  • MaephistoMaephisto somewhere, DCPosts: 632Member

    I remember reading that it isnt just cosmetic gear.  You can find different sets with different stat spreads (one set for crit chance, another for power) but are all horizontally equal.

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  • Bishop200Bishop200 Quelquepart, QCPosts: 68Member

    There no fun in trying to get 10-25 person together to play. To much drama.

  • QuenchsterQuenchster Monroe, MIPosts: 450Member

    Originally posted by Bobbie203

    why would i run 30-40 minutes dungeon just to get some cosmetic fluff gear?

    For the same reason why people run dungeons/raids even though they've got all the non-cosmetic gear!

  • KanethKaneth Posts: 1,925Member Uncommon

    Nope. I am sick and tired of a raiding model being used as endgame content. When I want to raid, I play WoW. When I want to PvP I play a FPS. When I want to do anything else, I play Skyrim...until GW2 comes out. GW2 should fulfill my pvp and everything else requirements.

  • BoatsmateBoatsmate Springfield, MOPosts: 208Member

    You mean like heal a group for 3 hours through 10 hard bosses,dying 20 times, and get a, "Easter Bonnet" as a reward? No.

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  • VowOfSilenceVowOfSilence wheePosts: 575Member

    Don't understand OP. What do you mean with "raids"?

    Dungeons already are cosmetic...

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  • gessekai332gessekai332 New York City, NYPosts: 877Member Common

    if the raids were actually fun and not tedious and irritating like current mmorpg raids (WoW, rift, AoC, etc) then i would definitely do it.  

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  • QuenchsterQuenchster Monroe, MIPosts: 450Member

    Originally posted by Boatsmate

    You mean like heal a group for 3 hours through 10 hard bosses,dying 20 times, and get a, "Easter Bonnet" as a reward? No.

    I think what World of Warcraft is planning on doing is giving players hard mode dungeons that only drop cosmetic rewards for their recent transmogrification feature. I think the poster was thinking of GW2's transmutation stones when he thought of the word cosmetic.

  • wowfan1996wowfan1996 NonePosts: 719Member

    I answered "yes" but it's highly doubtful that anyone will be able to gather a raid for cosmetic gear. :) I don't know, maybe there are people out there who genuinely enjoy wiping for hours just to beat a scripted encounter. But I do know that I've never seen anyone who would. We raid because we are forced to raid, because we happen to play a game where there's no other way for us to get top-notch gear.

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  • BetakodoBetakodo Poor land, FLPosts: 338Member

    Rare drop skins and materials and other drops are also a factor. Cosmetic stuff is the carrot on the stick. People just don't realize it, because if x armor looks sooo cool but has the same stats as max armor you can get anywhere it's really cosmetic. Really, that's why the "It's just cosmetic" argument doesn't fly when trying to justify adding a cash shop to a $60 game.

  • ScriptZScriptZ Sunnyside, UTPosts: 70Member

    Yeah sure why not I don't find it anymore ridiculous then say running a dung over and over to get tokens to buy a piece of gear just to a) impress my friends and or ppl I don't even know or b) get my gear score high enough to enter the next dung, so that I can do it all over again.

  • grimm6thgrimm6th Overland Park, KSPosts: 973Member

    We have dungeons for our instances, Why do we need more instances...We have what amounts to open world raids already.

    I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  • DeserttFoxxDeserttFoxx North York, ONPosts: 2,360Member Uncommon

    I dont even support the current paradigm of dungeons giving cosmetic gear. you have to be outside your mind to think id do a raid just for cosmetic gear.

     

    Not sure where these weak breed of gamer came from that doesnt want to earn any items and honestly believes everyone should be equal at all times. But this cosmetic only gear shit in dungeons will not catch on, and honestly im not sure how long it will last in guild wars 2.

     

    Sounds good on paper, but i honestly dont see a large majority of players farming dungeons for costumes... especially when there is an item mall in game which is no doubt sell costumes...

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  • wowfan1996wowfan1996 NonePosts: 719Member


    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
    Not sure where these weak breed of gamer came from that doesnt want to earn any items and honestly believes everyone should be equal at all times. But this cosmetic only gear shit in dungeons will not catch on, and honestly im not sure how long it will last in guild wars 2.
    I'll tell you where it came from. I spent about 2000 hours in raids in WoW in my time and I freaking can't take it anymore. It was a damn part time job nobody paid me for. Now I just want to have a little fun and so I far I have every reason to hope GW2 will deliver it. And if you don't like a game where there's no gear treadmill - don't play it.
     

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member

    Why?  There are 30+ dungeon paths with enough challenge to last a long time, and plenty of DE's that would count as raids in any other game.... and they give rewards that you can turn in for whatever you want.  Raids don't need to be in an MMO for it to be an MMO.

  • ConnmacartConnmacart OsloPosts: 681Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

    I dont even support the current paradigm of dungeons giving cosmetic gear. you have to be outside your mind to think id do a raid just for cosmetic gear.

     

    Not sure where these weak breed of gamer came from that doesnt want to earn any items and honestly believes everyone should be equal at all times. But this cosmetic only gear shit in dungeons will not catch on, and honestly im not sure how long it will last in guild wars 2.

     

    Sounds good on paper, but i honestly dont see a large majority of players farming dungeons for costumes... especially when there is an item mall in game which is no doubt sell costumes...

    Yeah people were out of their mind buying elite armor in GW1 when the cheap stuff was just as good. :rolleyes:

  • XzenXzen Los Alamos, NMPosts: 2,607Member Common

    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

    I dont even support the current paradigm of dungeons giving cosmetic gear. you have to be outside your mind to think id do a raid just for cosmetic gear.

     

    Not sure where these weak breed of gamer came from that doesnt want to earn any items and honestly believes everyone should be equal at all times. But this cosmetic only gear shit in dungeons will not catch on, and honestly im not sure how long it will last in guild wars 2.

     

    Sounds good on paper, but i honestly dont see a large majority of players farming dungeons for costumes... especially when there is an item mall in game which is no doubt sell costumes...

    We like to win based on skill not gear scores. I think you might be the weak breed if you need uber gear to win. In UO when it started out gear was pretty much cosmetic. It all had to do with skill (and good internet connection).

  • SoandsosoSoandsoso Richmond Hill, ONPosts: 533Member

    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

    I dont even support the current paradigm of dungeons giving cosmetic gear. you have to be outside your mind to think id do a raid just for cosmetic gear.

     

    Not sure where these weak breed of gamer came from that doesnt want to earn any items and honestly believes everyone should be equal at all times. But this cosmetic only gear shit in dungeons will not catch on, and honestly im not sure how long it will last in guild wars 2.

     

    Sounds good on paper, but i honestly dont see a large majority of players farming dungeons for costumes... especially when there is an item mall in game which is no doubt sell costumes...

    Really?

    Then why do people put so much effort into looking different? Why do people complain about armour models. Appearance is very important to gamers.

  • ConnmacartConnmacart OsloPosts: 681Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Betakodo

    Rare drop skins and materials and other drops are also a factor. Cosmetic stuff is the carrot on the stick. People just don't realize it, because if x armor looks sooo cool but has the same stats as max armor you can get anywhere it's really cosmetic. Really, that's why the "It's just cosmetic" argument doesn't fly when trying to justify adding a cash shop to a $60 game.

    I have no idea what you are trying to say. So selling cosmetic stuff is bad?

  • MajinashMajinash st louis, MOPosts: 1,320Member

    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

    I dont even support the current paradigm of dungeons giving cosmetic gear. you have to be outside your mind to think id do a raid just for cosmetic gear.

     

    Not sure where these weak breed of gamer came from that doesnt want to earn any items and honestly believes everyone should be equal at all times. But this cosmetic only gear shit in dungeons will not catch on, and honestly im not sure how long it will last in guild wars 2.

     

    Sounds good on paper, but i honestly dont see a large majority of players farming dungeons for costumes... especially when there is an item mall in game which is no doubt sell costumes...

    Yeah, like the Mario Brothers! who played that crappy game?  I mean all you did was beat koopa 8 times.  I didn't level up and get bigger each time I killed him, I didn't get a +10 mushroom of stompyness, my princess wasn't even in 7 of those castles.

     

    Still have no idea how that guy got popular, you didn't level up in that game at all.

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member

    Originally posted by Xzen

     I think you might be the weak breed if you need uber gear to win.

    Gear-heads will never see it that way.  I remember capping a point in the open world in WoW (Hellfire Penninsula) when someone flew in to stop me.  We were both level 80 and I was clearly better than he was at fighting, but hey, he had all PvP gear so all of his mistakes went virtually unpenalized and he beat me down because of what he was wearing.  I think if you really want to play a game and enjoy the challenge, you won't care what you're wearing.  Otherwise, you're just looking for an easy advantage so you can "pwn" with no resistance.

  • DeserttFoxxDeserttFoxx North York, ONPosts: 2,360Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Majinash

    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

    I dont even support the current paradigm of dungeons giving cosmetic gear. you have to be outside your mind to think id do a raid just for cosmetic gear.

     

    Not sure where these weak breed of gamer came from that doesnt want to earn any items and honestly believes everyone should be equal at all times. But this cosmetic only gear shit in dungeons will not catch on, and honestly im not sure how long it will last in guild wars 2.

     

    Sounds good on paper, but i honestly dont see a large majority of players farming dungeons for costumes... especially when there is an item mall in game which is no doubt sell costumes...

    Yeah, like the Mario Brothers! who played that crappy game?  I mean all you did was beat koopa 8 times.  I didn't level up and get bigger each time I killed him, I didn't get a +10 mushroom of stompyness, my princess wasn't even in 7 of those castles.

     

    Still have no idea how that guy got popular, you didn't level up in that game at all.

    Super mario... and a MMORPG clearly have a lot in common.

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