Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
Don't forget SWTOR
1.7 million subs does not a fail MMO make. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean it failed. Quite the opposite, actually.
Give it some time, even Warhammer Online was boasting good subscription numbers 3 months after release. For all intent and purposes, SW:TOR is a failed MMORPG. The numbers are just not showing that, yet.
Given that the company said with as little as 500K subscriber they would still be making money, I highly doubt this game will be a fail MMO for a long time. Now maybe if all the MMOs coming out in the next two years ALL manage to create games with as much content (or more) AND as large a "world" (or bigger), maybe then you will be right. Until then, SWTOR is most probably all paid for AND making a nice tidy profit right now, so hardly a fail.
As for the OP. I can think of at least 20 companies right off the top of my head that are much worse than EA. It is fairly obvious to me that the people voting on that poll have no idea what is going on in the real world, the pathetic fools.
Name them, please.
Hmmm...well I don't know if I can think of 20, but here's a few:
BP (Destroyed much of the Gulf of Mexico)
BoA (Stealing people's houses even though they paid the mortgage)
Erroneous voting. It's the biggest game studio so it will naturally have the most happy / angry fans of any other studio.
If you ask how many love EA, by the sheer number of fans they have across countless platforms, it would beat out companies like Blizzard no problem (as there are far more of those Madden NFL fans, for example, than WoW fans in NA).
the FINAL deathmatch -- Bank of America vs EA -- and EA won bad dog
Which shows us since there were only two options, what sort of people were voting.
Looks like whiny gamers who were fed up with SWTOR, and ME3's ending.
Yeah, their crying is in some way equal to the pain and suffering of people being homeless, without food or shelter or family, all because of Bank of America.
way to go consumer voters, genius.
All the homeless people probably don't have a computer to vote from. People vote on what effects them, not others.
You are saying as if being so self centered and living such sheltered lives is a good thing ;
Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
Don't forget SWTOR
1.7 million subs does not a fail MMO make. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean it failed. Quite the opposite, actually.
Give it some time, even Warhammer Online was boasting good subscription numbers 3 months after release. For all intent and purposes, SW:TOR is a failed MMORPG. The numbers are just not showing that, yet.
Given that the company said with as little as 500K subscriber they would still be making money, I highly doubt this game will be a fail MMO for a long time. Now maybe if all the MMOs coming out in the next two years ALL manage to create games with as much content (or more) AND as large a "world" (or bigger), maybe then you will be right. Until then, SWTOR is most probably all paid for AND making a nice tidy profit right now, so hardly a fail.
As for the OP. I can think of at least 20 companies right off the top of my head that are much worse than EA. It is fairly obvious to me that the people voting on that poll have no idea what is going on in the real world, the pathetic fools.
Name them, please.
Hmmm...well I don't know if I can think of 20, but here's a few:
BP (Destroyed much of the Gulf of Mexico)
BoA (Stealing people's houses even though they paid the mortgage)
AIG (Abused bailout money among other things)
Phillip Morris (Cigarretes)
Chase
Morgan Stanley
Exxon Mobil
...
All of those were on my list as well as the company that Bernie Madolf ran, SOE, Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac, Solindra, Chrysler, and the list goes on. All of these companies have abused their customers, stolen from there customers, or stolen from American taxpayers.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
LOL... People here need to lighten up a bit. It was just a stupid Internet poll. You also have to consider who is more likely to vote in an Internet poll... Disgruntled gamers... or Homeless people living in shelters or on the street? Far more people who have been affected by EA's shinanigans are more likely to have Internet access than people affected by Bank of America or any other 'Made people homeless' company. A poll is only as good as the polling base. I had no doubt EA would win just because they were asking people with computers and Internet access... You know... Gamers! LOL
Erroneous voting. It's the biggest game studio so it will naturally have the most happy / angry fans of any other studio.
If you ask how many love EA, by the sheer number of fans they have across countless platforms, it would beat out companies like Blizzard no problem (as there are far more of those Madden NFL fans, for example, than WoW fans in NA).
LOL... People here need to lighten up a bit. It was just a stupid Internet poll. You also have to consider who is more likely to vote in an Internet poll... Disgruntled gamers... or Homeless people living in shelters or on the street? Far more people who have been affected by EA's shinanigans are more likely to have Internet access than people affected by Bank of America or any other 'Made people homeless' company. A poll is only as good as the polling base. I had no doubt EA would win just because they were asking people with computers and Internet access... You know... Gamers! LOL
Bren
I think most get that Bren.
I think the point quite a few are trying to make though is that it is somewhat shocking those gamers lack any kind of perspective or awareness beyond their monitor and can't see beyond their petty little issues with a game company. You don't have to be a 'homeless person', or eat poison, or work in a sweat shop, or whatever, to empathise with someone in that position. Well... a lot of people don't anyhow. I guess it is just still a little shocking how many only see themselves though when you see it underlined in this way.
My point, I guess, is that all the potentiol empowerment and awareness the internet at it's best offers and still a lot of people can't see beyond their pointless game and the need to wank themselves silly to porn... it's just sad really.
I think the point quite a few are trying to make though is that it is somewhat shocking those gamers lack any kind of perspective or awareness beyond their monitor and can't see beyond their petty little issues with a game company. You don't have to be a 'homeless person', or eat poison, or work in a sweat shop, or whatever, to empathise with someone in that position. Well... a lot of people don't anyhow. I guess it is just still a little shocking how many only see themselves though when you see it underlined in this way.
My point, I guess, is that all the potentiol empowerment and awareness the internet at it's best offers and still a lot of people can't see beyond their pointless game and the need to wank themselves silly to porn... it's just sad really.
I couldn't have said it better. It may be just a silly internet poll, but it contained plenty of opportunities for people to show just a little worldly perception.
Really america? Really? A video game company is worse than scumbags who use robo signing to steal houses and any excuses to screw over account holders for thousands of dollars is better than some video game company that screwed up star wars and the ending to ME3? This is why noone takes us seriously as a country.
I have to agree. EA "winning" this over some of the companies that were listed is just nothing short of ridiculous. I mean, seriously.....seriously. Just look at the list of other companies in your mind that could have been named and think about all the things those other companies have done. EA doesn't even remotely compare.
Having said that, I do think that EA is a douchy company. It's just not the utmost douchiest.
The author's ranting seems like exactly the sort of biased "reporting" that we've come to expect from gamers.
EA says "another one of those" and shrugs.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
LOL... People here need to lighten up a bit. It was just a stupid Internet poll. You also have to consider who is more likely to vote in an Internet poll... Disgruntled gamers... or Homeless people living in shelters or on the street? Far more people who have been affected by EA's shinanigans are more likely to have Internet access than people affected by Bank of America or any other 'Made people homeless' company. A poll is only as good as the polling base. I had no doubt EA would win just because they were asking people with computers and Internet access... You know... Gamers! LOL
Bren
I think most get that Bren.
I think the point quite a few are trying to make though is that it is somewhat shocking those gamers lack any kind of perspective or awareness beyond their monitor and can't see beyond their petty little issues with a game company. You don't have to be a 'homeless person', or eat poison, or work in a sweat shop, or whatever, to empathise with someone in that position. Well... a lot of people don't anyhow. I guess it is just still a little shocking how many only see themselves though when you see it underlined in this way.
My point, I guess, is that all the potentiol empowerment and awareness the internet at it's best offers and still a lot of people can't see beyond their pointless game and the need to wank themselves silly to porn... it's just sad really.
My point is when you ask a group that is most probably saturated with the type of people highlighted in red you shouldn't be all that surprised by the result you get. This poll was biased heavily for EA to win before it was even posted because of the polling base. Gamers are a selfish lot. Just look at all of the "My game's the best and yours is crap" posts on this very forum every day for evidence of that. Gamers seldom see past what they enjoy and nobody elses opinions or hardships really matter to them. If they did they wouldn't be playing games they would be out changing the world.
If you want to claim there are much worse companies than EA and pick the most intensely evil company in America, looking at energy or finance is entirely the wrong fields. How about businesses that make no effort at staying on the right side of the law, and will surely have their people imprisoned when they are caught? Say, sex traffickers who force minors into prostitution. That's pretty evil, I'd say.
But they could never win an award like the one EA did, because if it becomes widely known what they did, it means they've already been caught and broken up. They tend to stay small to try to avoid that fate, too--and its accompanying lengthy prison sentence.
I think if you look at it in relative terms, you'll see that EA is to gaming what BoA is to banking. Bank of America may ruin lives, but I think that EA does a better job at ruining their medium.
Now if we're just talking magnitude of "evilness" then obviously, BoA's is larger, because there is a larger potential for abuse. However, as Quizzical pointed out, there are far more evil organizations out there.
All in all though, I think EAs response to this was really pathetic. They essentially said, "Sure we're horrible, but we're not as horrible as those guys! Now give me your money."
I don't know why there's debate over this. It's a poll. Hosted on Consumerist.com.
This is not a moral battle, it never was. I mean I guess I get it, people interpret "Worst Company in America" as some kind of contest that holistically includes business practice and outcome. But its not. Its a poll on a website that gears toward shopping. I'm saying this loosely, more people are exposed to EA products than Bank of America. That said people who have been royally screwed by BofA, probably didn't take part of that poll- it was mostly educated people who knew the damage that BofA does.
If this was hosted to the general populace? I bet there would be a different outcome.
We (people who actually know what Bank of America does) know BofA is a scummy, aphauling, corporate slime passing itself off as a business. That said, take this piece of information as entertainment, not fact.
Corporate slime? I don't even know why I wrote that.
You know there is a bit of irony here in relation to the democractic system of the US. People are allowed to vote for the best candidate for something (or the worst in this case). But the true irony is that the average person really doesn't know who is the best or worst choice and actual logic is one of the last things used to make many of those decisions.
bah you guys are all wrong... the worst company in USA is the US government... I mean hell they spend billions upon billions bailing out companies with bad business practices, giving tax breaks to those who bribe them, pass laws that benefit lobbyist, not necissarily the taxpayers that actually finance them, and they cant even make a budget, much less balance one.... and to top it all off, we are legally required to keep paying them to do these things.... Now thats a bad company!
yeah thats a bit of sarcasm but really whats sad is that its actually true 8(
LOL... People here need to lighten up a bit. It was just a stupid Internet poll. You also have to consider who is more likely to vote in an Internet poll... Disgruntled gamers... or Homeless people living in shelters or on the street? Far more people who have been affected by EA's shinanigans are more likely to have Internet access than people affected by Bank of America or any other 'Made people homeless' company. A poll is only as good as the polling base. I had no doubt EA would win just because they were asking people with computers and Internet access... You know... Gamers! LOL
Bren
I think most get that Bren.
I think the point quite a few are trying to make though is that it is somewhat shocking those gamers lack any kind of perspective or awareness beyond their monitor and can't see beyond their petty little issues with a game company. You don't have to be a 'homeless person', or eat poison, or work in a sweat shop, or whatever, to empathise with someone in that position. Well... a lot of people don't anyhow. I guess it is just still a little shocking how many only see themselves though when you see it underlined in this way.
My point, I guess, is that all the potentiol empowerment and awareness the internet at it's best offers and still a lot of people can't see beyond their pointless game and the need to wank themselves silly to porn... it's just sad really.
Originally posted by Thomas2006 Originally posted by Greymoor What games did EA ruin?
Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
Screw The Sims dammit. The Sims was what EA pushed Maxis into becoming which in turn destroyed the Sim City franchise which was still far and away one of the best series of games ive ever played.
EA is the Gordon Gecko of gaming.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity. I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
Originally posted by cutthecrap Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by Brenelael
LOL... People here need to lighten up a bit. It was just a stupid Internet poll. You also have to consider who is more likely to vote in an Internet poll... Disgruntled gamers... or Homeless people living in shelters or on the street? Far more people who have been affected by EA's shinanigans are more likely to have Internet access than people affected by Bank of America or any other 'Made people homeless' company. A poll is only as good as the polling base. I had no doubt EA would win just because they were asking people with computers and Internet access... You know... Gamers! LOL Bren
I think most get that Bren. I think the point quite a few are trying to make though is that it is somewhat shocking those gamers lack any kind of perspective or awareness beyond their monitor and can't see beyond their petty little issues with a game company. You don't have to be a 'homeless person', or eat poison, or work in a sweat shop, or whatever, to empathise with someone in that position. Well... a lot of people don't anyhow. I guess it is just still a little shocking how many only see themselves though when you see it underlined in this way. My point, I guess, is that all the potentiol empowerment and awareness the internet at it's best offers and still a lot of people can't see beyond their pointless game and the need to wank themselves silly to porn... it's just sad really. Hit the nail right on the head. And it was shocking indeed. Still is. Nothings Shocking. Perry nailed it 20 years ago and it still rings true today.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
Bioware must be kicking themselves in the buttocks right now. Perception means alot in the gaming business. If people think you suck then who is going to buy your games ?
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Hmmm...well I don't know if I can think of 20, but here's a few:
BP (Destroyed much of the Gulf of Mexico)
BoA (Stealing people's houses even though they paid the mortgage)
AIG (Abused bailout money among other things)
Phillip Morris (Cigarretes)
Chase
Morgan Stanley
Exxon Mobil
...
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Erroneous voting. It's the biggest game studio so it will naturally have the most happy / angry fans of any other studio.
If you ask how many love EA, by the sheer number of fans they have across countless platforms, it would beat out companies like Blizzard no problem (as there are far more of those Madden NFL fans, for example, than WoW fans in NA).
You are saying as if being so self centered and living such sheltered lives is a good thing ;
All of those were on my list as well as the company that Bernie Madolf ran, SOE, Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac, Solindra, Chrysler, and the list goes on. All of these companies have abused their customers, stolen from there customers, or stolen from American taxpayers.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
LOL... People here need to lighten up a bit. It was just a stupid Internet poll. You also have to consider who is more likely to vote in an Internet poll... Disgruntled gamers... or Homeless people living in shelters or on the street? Far more people who have been affected by EA's shinanigans are more likely to have Internet access than people affected by Bank of America or any other 'Made people homeless' company. A poll is only as good as the polling base. I had no doubt EA would win just because they were asking people with computers and Internet access... You know... Gamers! LOL
Bren
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For some reason...I doubt that
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Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Well, if anything, this certainly shows that EA has managed to piss-off some rather large subset of the internet.
I think most get that Bren.
I think the point quite a few are trying to make though is that it is somewhat shocking those gamers lack any kind of perspective or awareness beyond their monitor and can't see beyond their petty little issues with a game company. You don't have to be a 'homeless person', or eat poison, or work in a sweat shop, or whatever, to empathise with someone in that position. Well... a lot of people don't anyhow. I guess it is just still a little shocking how many only see themselves though when you see it underlined in this way.
My point, I guess, is that all the potentiol empowerment and awareness the internet at it's best offers and still a lot of people can't see beyond their pointless game and the need to wank themselves silly to porn... it's just sad really.
I couldn't have said it better. It may be just a silly internet poll, but it contained plenty of opportunities for people to show just a little worldly perception.
I have to agree. EA "winning" this over some of the companies that were listed is just nothing short of ridiculous. I mean, seriously.....seriously. Just look at the list of other companies in your mind that could have been named and think about all the things those other companies have done. EA doesn't even remotely compare.
Having said that, I do think that EA is a douchy company. It's just not the utmost douchiest.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
The author's ranting seems like exactly the sort of biased "reporting" that we've come to expect from gamers.
EA says "another one of those" and shrugs.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
My point is when you ask a group that is most probably saturated with the type of people highlighted in red you shouldn't be all that surprised by the result you get. This poll was biased heavily for EA to win before it was even posted because of the polling base. Gamers are a selfish lot. Just look at all of the "My game's the best and yours is crap" posts on this very forum every day for evidence of that. Gamers seldom see past what they enjoy and nobody elses opinions or hardships really matter to them. If they did they wouldn't be playing games they would be out changing the world.
Bren
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If you want to claim there are much worse companies than EA and pick the most intensely evil company in America, looking at energy or finance is entirely the wrong fields. How about businesses that make no effort at staying on the right side of the law, and will surely have their people imprisoned when they are caught? Say, sex traffickers who force minors into prostitution. That's pretty evil, I'd say.
But they could never win an award like the one EA did, because if it becomes widely known what they did, it means they've already been caught and broken up. They tend to stay small to try to avoid that fate, too--and its accompanying lengthy prison sentence.
I think if you look at it in relative terms, you'll see that EA is to gaming what BoA is to banking. Bank of America may ruin lives, but I think that EA does a better job at ruining their medium.
Now if we're just talking magnitude of "evilness" then obviously, BoA's is larger, because there is a larger potential for abuse. However, as Quizzical pointed out, there are far more evil organizations out there.
All in all though, I think EAs response to this was really pathetic. They essentially said, "Sure we're horrible, but we're not as horrible as those guys! Now give me your money."
I don't know why there's debate over this. It's a poll. Hosted on Consumerist.com.
This is not a moral battle, it never was. I mean I guess I get it, people interpret "Worst Company in America" as some kind of contest that holistically includes business practice and outcome. But its not. Its a poll on a website that gears toward shopping. I'm saying this loosely, more people are exposed to EA products than Bank of America. That said people who have been royally screwed by BofA, probably didn't take part of that poll- it was mostly educated people who knew the damage that BofA does.
If this was hosted to the general populace? I bet there would be a different outcome.
We (people who actually know what Bank of America does) know BofA is a scummy, aphauling, corporate slime passing itself off as a business. That said, take this piece of information as entertainment, not fact.
Corporate slime? I don't even know why I wrote that.
Abandon The Fifth.
You know there is a bit of irony here in relation to the democractic system of the US. People are allowed to vote for the best candidate for something (or the worst in this case). But the true irony is that the average person really doesn't know who is the best or worst choice and actual logic is one of the last things used to make many of those decisions.
You can always add Hellgate Londom to the EA disasters. I feel sorry for anyone who uses EA as a publisher or even considers joining forces with them.
Grim Dawn, the next great action rpg!
http://www.grimdawn.com/
I feel Blizzard needs to be right up there with EA. CS has gone to shit with most company's and there word dont mean anything any more!!!!!
bah you guys are all wrong... the worst company in USA is the US government... I mean hell they spend billions upon billions bailing out companies with bad business practices, giving tax breaks to those who bribe them, pass laws that benefit lobbyist, not necissarily the taxpayers that actually finance them, and they cant even make a budget, much less balance one.... and to top it all off, we are legally required to keep paying them to do these things.... Now thats a bad company!
yeah thats a bit of sarcasm but really whats sad is that its actually true 8(
Hit the nail right on the head.
And it was shocking indeed. Still is.
Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
Screw The Sims dammit. The Sims was what EA pushed Maxis into becoming which in turn destroyed the Sim City franchise which was still far and away one of the best series of games ive ever played.
EA is the Gordon Gecko of gaming.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
I think most get that Bren.
I think the point quite a few are trying to make though is that it is somewhat shocking those gamers lack any kind of perspective or awareness beyond their monitor and can't see beyond their petty little issues with a game company. You don't have to be a 'homeless person', or eat poison, or work in a sweat shop, or whatever, to empathise with someone in that position. Well... a lot of people don't anyhow. I guess it is just still a little shocking how many only see themselves though when you see it underlined in this way.
My point, I guess, is that all the potentiol empowerment and awareness the internet at it's best offers and still a lot of people can't see beyond their pointless game and the need to wank themselves silly to porn... it's just sad really.
Hit the nail right on the head.
And it was shocking indeed. Still is.
Nothings Shocking. Perry nailed it 20 years ago and it still rings true today.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
Bioware must be kicking themselves in the buttocks right now. Perception means alot in the gaming business. If people think you suck then who is going to buy your games ?
Grim Dawn, the next great action rpg!
http://www.grimdawn.com/
This is a joke...some of the most horrible companies are not even included. Lol at EA actually beating BofA, what a sad lot of people and priorities.