funny how poeople are ignoring people saying they have made money from the game
I'm certainly ignoring it. Just like I ignored Billy Mays, and just like I ignore pop ups telling me that I'm the 500th visitor. The game's a pyramid scheme - the people playing want YOU to come in under them. Sounds to me like you just need a few more years to get some real world experience.
Of course, if you insist, and call in the next 10 minutes, I'll double Ceridith's offer, and you can have two bridges for the price of one!
Operators are standing by!
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
If you don't know or understand what your talking about, its probably best not to put your foot in your mouth :P
Calypso set up the 'land deeds' to allow players to invest in and earn divideds back if they chose.
The total amount of land deeds comes to $6million usd.
Each deed sold for 1000ped or $100usd.
Each deed purchased so far has brought their owners a weekly dividend of 3-10ped. 0.30-1.00 usd. (thats weekly, so 1.20 - 4.00 usd monthly on a $100 investment)
The exact amount paid each week is 1/4 of the profits from the Planet Calypso which is just one of the Planets within the Entropia Universe.
Counting an average of 5ped per week per share (the actual average is a little higher than that)
2.5million usd = 25,000 deeds = 125,000ped = $12,500usd per week = $50,000usd per month = $650,000usd per year.
I would say thats a comfortable amount to live off of per year, even for (small time) millionair.
I've been playing (not investing) in the game for 4yrs now, by playing carefuly I have managed to withdraw as much as I have deposited while still building up my ingame assets.
I'm playing a game I enjoy, and it's not costing me anything. In my mind thats better than any other games of this quality out there.
Original cost of CLDs were 1000ped each, I imagine by next week they will be a bit higher, possibly in the 1100 to 1200 range (not sure) and after a few months we will see what the market trends have established for their true value.
i played this game for 2 days speant 15 dollars playing hte way i wanted to play and when i was out of money i stopped playing, i do not want to play a game that involves having to manage money, and if it causes me to spend more than 15 a month on it its a waste of my time
i played this game for 2 days speant 15 dollars playing hte way i wanted to play and when i was out of money i stopped playing, i do not want to play a game that involves having to manage money, and if it causes me to spend more than 15 a month on it its a waste of my time
And I dont want to play a game that a vegetable could play.
Thats why its good there are options on the market today, a game for everyone
Everything to do with this game around big money player investments, huge returns and so on just sounds like total bullsh*t to me.
It's a virtual pyramid scheme. You have to invest a lot on money into the game in order to be able to produce anything of value in the hopes of selling it to other poor schmucks trying to make it rich in the game.
All the while the developers sit back and laugh as they create virtual content with a few clicks and sell it for hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
I think the difference between Entropia and a pyramid scheme is that at the base of a pyramid scheme you have nothing, where as at the base of entropia you have players playing a game just for fun and not expecting to make any money.
If you don't know or understand what your talking about, its probably best not to put your foot in your mouth :P
Calypso set up the 'land deeds' to allow players to invest in and earn divideds back if they chose.
The total amount of land deeds comes to $6million usd.
Each deed sold for 1000ped or $100usd.
Each deed purchased so far has brought their owners a weekly dividend of 3-10ped. 0.30-1.00 usd. (thats weekly, so 1.20 - 4.00 usd monthly on a $100 investment)
The exact amount paid each week is 1/4 of the profits from the Planet Calypso which is just one of the Planets within the Entropia Universe.
Counting an average of 5ped per week per share (the actual average is a little higher than that)
2.5million usd = 25,000 deeds = 125,000ped = $12,500usd per week = $50,000usd per month = $650,000usd per year.
I would say thats a comfortable amount to live off of per year, even for (small time) millionair.
I've been playing (not investing) in the game for 4yrs now, by playing carefuly I have managed to withdraw as much as I have deposited while still building up my ingame assets.
I'm playing a game I enjoy, and it's not costing me anything. In my mind thats better than any other games of this quality out there.
Original cost of CLDs were 1000ped each, I imagine by next week they will be a bit higher, possibly in the 1100 to 1200 range (not sure) and after a few months we will see what the market trends have established for their true value.
Wish I had a bunch on me to sell next week :P
narfi
So you actually lost money in the long run.
Its like driving a car, to get from one point to another you need fuel and money to buy that fuel.
as Narfi said this guy made an investment, only time will tell if it is a wise one, since the return is based on 1 planets economy, and not the whole game´s economy......he get his money back at the current rate in 3- 5 years, then it will start being pure profit...if the current rate is kept,,,,and it better be if mindark want to keep this sort auctions attractive
Everyone doubts all this money getting thrown into a stupid game...I say you haven't had money then...and I'm not talking 100k per year.
For years I made a good living making around 150k per year...and then last year I went into a new biz..that basically returned 1mil with a 50k investment....
So I blew stupid money on everything...from game accounts(10 different online accounts) to dropping 5k -10k a night on slots...$100.00 spins.. so if this guy was sitting on 10 mil..and is retired...and has the time to play...it's probably a real player..not a company rep.
I'm sure this person has a team of people playing.
Money and games are the future...wait until Diablo 3 is released.
I play the game too... Did since 2003 with a few breaks over the years.
I can vouch for what Narfi is saying. It IS indeed possible to make good money withing the game (I've withdrawn a substantial amount more than I have deposited over the years myself). BUT you should not expect to make money. Atleast not without careful planning, hard work, skilling, luck (and if possible to speed up process) funding.
Very exciting times with the land deeds. I bought my share and look forward to each Mondays payouts. Been good so far!
For those who might be interested you can try it out for free and see what it is like. Should you need help (as in information, guidance etc.) do not hesitate to let me or some of the other players know.
Edit: www.planetcalypsoforum.com and www.entropiaforum.com and naturally www.entropiauniverse.com
Just curious...anything that entails fun and money...doesn't seem like a bad idea?
well first off it is not an action game persay, it is a "proper" MMO where interaction with other players is the fun...ofc for the lucky few who hit an all time high the money is quite fun too...but expect to loose money in this game...or if making money expect less than someone who worked for them in an asian internet cafe....can look at it as a lottery the basic game...most loose but you choose how much to loose...
as it is right now though dont expect to be able to play for free, all the freebie prices seems very low to me, from sweat, stones to fruits...would way prefer the later 2 ways to sweating since people in sweating camps is horrible mix of players who believe paying players should pay their gametime to people trying to scam newcomers
the actual idea of Entropia Universe is nothing but genius. what other game actually lets you make money legaly? what other game lest you invest 50,000 real $$ and then resell that property for 100,000 real $$?
yup, that's right: 0
every single game out there takes your money and gives you fun. the only way to make money in other games is to brake the rules and either sell gold or characters. Entropia gives you a game that can either take your money or make you money all depending on how you play.
sure 90% of people will not make anything and most will even lose money but a few people actually do make money.
i personaly just didn't like the game intself so i never was able to stay for long, but i find the whole set up quite amazing. it is definately the way of the future for hard core video games.
Their most popular sub forum topic only has 4k posts... Most of the 'dead' or 'empty' F2P games have more posts than 4k in their most popular sub forum. When people say thay have made tens of thousands on this game, they are simply outright lying. Nowhere near that much money is going around in this game, lets alone hundreds of thousands or millions..... I jumped into this game a little over a year ago, to check things out. The economy was not going strong at that time, with usually one or two sellers for each type of material/item. And that was only for stuff people needed, most items you had to farm for because you couldn't find anyone selling them. Game is a scam, and the company isn't even making much off it. The people who go around telling how much thay have made or how much someone they 'know' has made are either trying to promote the game, or have been fooled by the game and want others to have the same fate....
Edit: After reading some more on their forums, it seems as if the company (Mindark) doesn't even have enough money to pay back players when they make a profit in-game. MA, it seems, is going broke. So even if a player invests a decent amount, and just happens to make a profit in-game (which is unlikely, it's a high risk scenario, and most players lose their money) MA will not even be able to pay the player back with real cash when the player wants to withdraw his PEDS to real $$........lmao
I would like a link to where a legit player following the rules was not payed when they went to cash out.
Lots of people have created panic threads, and I have read them all since I have money in the game. It always turns out the player screwed up on something, (wrong bank acct#, registered under a fake name, etc....) and they all eventually got paid once their errors were taken care of.
I have only withdrawn one time for $3,300 usd, and it came through to my bank with no problems at all.
The main forum has like 166,000 threads the trading sub section alone has 50,000 threads. But don't let a load of BS like you sprout get in the way of the truth. I have deposited and widthrawn from this "game" several times without issue. It' is not a scam it's a business. Just because you are ignorant of how it works doesn't make it a scam. It's as much a scam as real life. those that have money make more money those with little money struggle. I suppose D3 will be a scam as well. What if I told you that for $100,000 dollars you could get 1% of all transactions that occur on the Diablo 3 real money market. would you invest after all they are just virtual items? Guess what people pay lots of money for entertainment and these RCE games give you a chance to be a part of the income stream these games generate. If you are too small minded to see the direction of digital entertainment go back to earning your measly wage while people with vision take it all form you piece by piece. baaaaaaa.
so basicly we have 2 groups related to this "Game"
the people who love it and the people who hate it..
personally reading both sides all im seeing from this is, not so much a game as its a buy in job O-o"
you have to work a job to make the money to use the money to buy PED to invest in to the game to make money in the game, to withdraw the PED made in to real money to do whatever with it... @_@
if that is correct... its not really a game is it?? its basicly a virtural job.. like a virtural slot machine its all a gamble.
if you invest 100usd or 1000 usd and buy some land on the "planet" there is no guarentee you will make or even break even.. while at the same time it sounds like you have to do that to actually advance in the "game"
to me that sounds like a job not a game. i cant see how that is relaxing or stress relef at all.. as you are gambling real money on bits of data and pixals..
if people like that sorta thing, good for them.. im just stumped how exactly its fun to gamble like that
I play the game too... Did since 2003 with a few breaks over the years.
I can vouch for what Narfi is saying. It IS indeed possible to make good money withing the game (I've withdrawn a substantial amount more than I have deposited over the years myself). BUT you should not expect to make money.
No one doubts that at all. Actually, I think everyone pretty much agrees that the guys at the top of the pyramid are making serious bank.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Well actually my recent gaming history should be seen more from the perspective of a newer player. As mentioned I played on and off since 2003... 9 years! But in this timespan I sold out all assets and skills in game 2 times and withdrew most of my peds (money). After last sellout a few years ago I did not play for about a year. But I watched forums in the mean time.
Then, last summer 2011, MA released space and I decided to spend what I had not withdrawn in game on a Mothership (huge spacecraft) and again make profit on this. Any avatar with funding could have done this (and still can if they can find a seller) no matter if new or old. 8 months ago my avatar was in reality new!
As for job or game... yes EU can be both. But it is undeniable it has got a long term attraction. Thats why I kept comming back to the game over the years
so basicly we have 2 groups related to this "Game"
the people who love it and the people who hate it..
personally reading both sides all im seeing from this is, not so much a game as its a buy in job O-o"
you have to work a job to make the money to use the money to buy PED to invest in to the game to make money in the game, to withdraw the PED made in to real money to do whatever with it... @_@
if that is correct... its not really a game is it?? its basicly a virtural job.. like a virtural slot machine its all a gamble.
if you invest 100usd or 1000 usd and buy some land on the "planet" there is no guarentee you will make or even break even.. while at the same time it sounds like you have to do that to actually advance in the "game"
to me that sounds like a job not a game. i cant see how that is relaxing or stress relef at all.. as you are gambling real money on bits of data and pixals..
if people like that sorta thing, good for them.. im just stumped how exactly its fun to gamble like that
you can compare it to a casino, but where you can affect the odds for winning - not 100% certain but you can easy have a loose of 50%+ too, and ofc those that have this happening call it a scam and hate the entropia universe.
you can treat it like a slavery and work hard a month to get about 15$ for free.
you can treat it as an investor, put in money and try your luck as a trader, only people who actually make money in this game...a good trader (someone who doesnt try exploit newcomers, and only will profit if they re-sell in big amounts) is lucky to make 1 - 10$ a day - or 10 - 100 ped...atleast people Ive chatted with...and those Ive chatted actually spend those ped in game, so doing it only to play for free (1 of them even started out with the slavery activities, so never paid a cent)
these land deeds is like buying shares in mindark, just inside game instead of in the real world...were putted for sale for 1000 ped, but now all are sold, it is free market competition
Its a really fun game if you get into it, just treat it like a normal MMO, so you initally put in £30 then maue £10 a month soon enough you will get used to the game work out what makes the best cash and soon enough you wont be paying £10 a month...
Graphics are tons better now they have moved to the cryengine.
Its not for everyone i guess as some people cant get their heads around the real money thing.. but if you think of it like i described above and just treat it as a normal pay monthly MMO then its all good..
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Operators are standing by!
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
If you don't know or understand what your talking about, its probably best not to put your foot in your mouth :P
Calypso set up the 'land deeds' to allow players to invest in and earn divideds back if they chose.
The total amount of land deeds comes to $6million usd.
Each deed sold for 1000ped or $100usd.
Each deed purchased so far has brought their owners a weekly dividend of 3-10ped. 0.30-1.00 usd. (thats weekly, so 1.20 - 4.00 usd monthly on a $100 investment)
The exact amount paid each week is 1/4 of the profits from the Planet Calypso which is just one of the Planets within the Entropia Universe.
Here is the history of dividends to date:
http://www.entropiaplanets.com/wiki/Calypso_Land_Deed
Counting an average of 5ped per week per share (the actual average is a little higher than that)
2.5million usd = 25,000 deeds = 125,000ped = $12,500usd per week = $50,000usd per month = $650,000usd per year.
I would say thats a comfortable amount to live off of per year, even for (small time) millionair.
I've been playing (not investing) in the game for 4yrs now, by playing carefuly I have managed to withdraw as much as I have deposited while still building up my ingame assets.
I'm playing a game I enjoy, and it's not costing me anything. In my mind thats better than any other games of this quality out there.
Original cost of CLDs were 1000ped each, I imagine by next week they will be a bit higher, possibly in the 1100 to 1200 range (not sure) and after a few months we will see what the market trends have established for their true value.
Wish I had a bunch on me to sell next week :P
narfi
Playing with Real Money: Colonizing Virtual Worlds
i played this game for 2 days speant 15 dollars playing hte way i wanted to play and when i was out of money i stopped playing, i do not want to play a game that involves having to manage money, and if it causes me to spend more than 15 a month on it its a waste of my time
And I dont want to play a game that a vegetable could play.
Thats why its good there are options on the market today, a game for everyone
Playing with Real Money: Colonizing Virtual Worlds
I think the difference between Entropia and a pyramid scheme is that at the base of a pyramid scheme you have nothing, where as at the base of entropia you have players playing a game just for fun and not expecting to make any money.
Play as your fav retro characters: cnd-online.net. My site: www.lysle.net. Blog: creatingaworld.blogspot.com.
So you actually lost money in the long run.
Its like driving a car, to get from one point to another you need fuel and money to buy that fuel.
Entropia is build that way.
as Narfi said this guy made an investment, only time will tell if it is a wise one, since the return is based on 1 planets economy, and not the whole game´s economy......he get his money back at the current rate in 3- 5 years, then it will start being pure profit...if the current rate is kept,,,,and it better be if mindark want to keep this sort auctions attractive
Everyone doubts all this money getting thrown into a stupid game...I say you haven't had money then...and I'm not talking 100k per year.
For years I made a good living making around 150k per year...and then last year I went into a new biz..that basically returned 1mil with a 50k investment....
So I blew stupid money on everything...from game accounts(10 different online accounts) to dropping 5k -10k a night on slots...$100.00 spins.. so if this guy was sitting on 10 mil..and is retired...and has the time to play...it's probably a real player..not a company rep.
I'm sure this person has a team of people playing.
Money and games are the future...wait until Diablo 3 is released.
So how many people play this game?
Also...what happens if people stop playing?
Doesn't this guy lose money?
I play the game too... Did since 2003 with a few breaks over the years.
I can vouch for what Narfi is saying. It IS indeed possible to make good money withing the game (I've withdrawn a substantial amount more than I have deposited over the years myself). BUT you should not expect to make money. Atleast not without careful planning, hard work, skilling, luck (and if possible to speed up process) funding.
Very exciting times with the land deeds. I bought my share and look forward to each Mondays payouts. Been good so far!
For those who might be interested you can try it out for free and see what it is like. Should you need help (as in information, guidance etc.) do not hesitate to let me or some of the other players know.
Edit: www.planetcalypsoforum.com and www.entropiaforum.com and naturally www.entropiauniverse.com
Gl all,
Sbi
what's the key player site for this game?
Just curious...anything that entails fun and money...doesn't seem like a bad idea?
well first off it is not an action game persay, it is a "proper" MMO where interaction with other players is the fun...ofc for the lucky few who hit an all time high the money is quite fun too...but expect to loose money in this game...or if making money expect less than someone who worked for them in an asian internet cafe....can look at it as a lottery the basic game...most loose but you choose how much to loose...
as it is right now though dont expect to be able to play for free, all the freebie prices seems very low to me, from sweat, stones to fruits...would way prefer the later 2 ways to sweating since people in sweating camps is horrible mix of players who believe paying players should pay their gametime to people trying to scam newcomers
the actual idea of Entropia Universe is nothing but genius. what other game actually lets you make money legaly? what other game lest you invest 50,000 real $$ and then resell that property for 100,000 real $$?
yup, that's right: 0
every single game out there takes your money and gives you fun. the only way to make money in other games is to brake the rules and either sell gold or characters. Entropia gives you a game that can either take your money or make you money all depending on how you play.
sure 90% of people will not make anything and most will even lose money but a few people actually do make money.
i personaly just didn't like the game intself so i never was able to stay for long, but i find the whole set up quite amazing. it is definately the way of the future for hard core video games.
Here are the Entropia forums
http://www.entropiaforum.com/forum/
Their most popular sub forum topic only has 4k posts... Most of the 'dead' or 'empty' F2P games have more posts than 4k in their most popular sub forum. When people say thay have made tens of thousands on this game, they are simply outright lying. Nowhere near that much money is going around in this game, lets alone hundreds of thousands or millions..... I jumped into this game a little over a year ago, to check things out. The economy was not going strong at that time, with usually one or two sellers for each type of material/item. And that was only for stuff people needed, most items you had to farm for because you couldn't find anyone selling them. Game is a scam, and the company isn't even making much off it. The people who go around telling how much thay have made or how much someone they 'know' has made are either trying to promote the game, or have been fooled by the game and want others to have the same fate....
Edit: After reading some more on their forums, it seems as if the company (Mindark) doesn't even have enough money to pay back players when they make a profit in-game. MA, it seems, is going broke. So even if a player invests a decent amount, and just happens to make a profit in-game (which is unlikely, it's a high risk scenario, and most players lose their money) MA will not even be able to pay the player back with real cash when the player wants to withdraw his PEDS to real $$........lmao
The main forum is planetcalypsoforum.com
I would like a link to where a legit player following the rules was not payed when they went to cash out.
Lots of people have created panic threads, and I have read them all since I have money in the game. It always turns out the player screwed up on something, (wrong bank acct#, registered under a fake name, etc....) and they all eventually got paid once their errors were taken care of.
I have only withdrawn one time for $3,300 usd, and it came through to my bank with no problems at all.
narfi
Playing with Real Money: Colonizing Virtual Worlds
The main forum has like 166,000 threads the trading sub section alone has 50,000 threads. But don't let a load of BS like you sprout get in the way of the truth. I have deposited and widthrawn from this "game" several times without issue. It' is not a scam it's a business. Just because you are ignorant of how it works doesn't make it a scam. It's as much a scam as real life. those that have money make more money those with little money struggle. I suppose D3 will be a scam as well. What if I told you that for $100,000 dollars you could get 1% of all transactions that occur on the Diablo 3 real money market. would you invest after all they are just virtual items? Guess what people pay lots of money for entertainment and these RCE games give you a chance to be a part of the income stream these games generate. If you are too small minded to see the direction of digital entertainment go back to earning your measly wage while people with vision take it all form you piece by piece. baaaaaaa.
Entropia Online isn't a game.
It's a virtual world.
so basicly we have 2 groups related to this "Game"
the people who love it and the people who hate it..
personally reading both sides all im seeing from this is, not so much a game as its a buy in job O-o"
you have to work a job to make the money to use the money to buy PED to invest in to the game to make money in the game, to withdraw the PED made in to real money to do whatever with it... @_@
if that is correct... its not really a game is it?? its basicly a virtural job.. like a virtural slot machine its all a gamble.
if you invest 100usd or 1000 usd and buy some land on the "planet" there is no guarentee you will make or even break even.. while at the same time it sounds like you have to do that to actually advance in the "game"
to me that sounds like a job not a game. i cant see how that is relaxing or stress relef at all.. as you are gambling real money on bits of data and pixals..
if people like that sorta thing, good for them.. im just stumped how exactly its fun to gamble like that
No one doubts that at all. Actually, I think everyone pretty much agrees that the guys at the top of the pyramid are making serious bank.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Well actually my recent gaming history should be seen more from the perspective of a newer player. As mentioned I played on and off since 2003... 9 years! But in this timespan I sold out all assets and skills in game 2 times and withdrew most of my peds (money). After last sellout a few years ago I did not play for about a year. But I watched forums in the mean time.
Then, last summer 2011, MA released space and I decided to spend what I had not withdrawn in game on a Mothership (huge spacecraft) and again make profit on this. Any avatar with funding could have done this (and still can if they can find a seller) no matter if new or old. 8 months ago my avatar was in reality new!
As for job or game... yes EU can be both. But it is undeniable it has got a long term attraction. Thats why I kept comming back to the game over the years
/Sbi
When i try out the game, around 2005 i think, i just found the game a "online casino".
I bealive someone can make money with the game, as long theres someone losing it. Its a very simple system just like the casinos.
you can compare it to a casino, but where you can affect the odds for winning - not 100% certain but you can easy have a loose of 50%+ too, and ofc those that have this happening call it a scam and hate the entropia universe.
you can treat it like a slavery and work hard a month to get about 15$ for free.
you can treat it as an investor, put in money and try your luck as a trader, only people who actually make money in this game...a good trader (someone who doesnt try exploit newcomers, and only will profit if they re-sell in big amounts) is lucky to make 1 - 10$ a day - or 10 - 100 ped...atleast people Ive chatted with...and those Ive chatted actually spend those ped in game, so doing it only to play for free (1 of them even started out with the slavery activities, so never paid a cent)
these land deeds is like buying shares in mindark, just inside game instead of in the real world...were putted for sale for 1000 ped, but now all are sold, it is free market competition
meh
kudos for all those that are in Entropia ,but I would never ever want to play a "game" like that
Its a really fun game if you get into it, just treat it like a normal MMO, so you initally put in £30 then maue £10 a month soon enough you will get used to the game work out what makes the best cash and soon enough you wont be paying £10 a month...
Graphics are tons better now they have moved to the cryengine.
http://www.entropiauniverse.com/media/imagess
one of the better looknig mmorpgs out there.
Its not for everyone i guess as some people cant get their heads around the real money thing.. but if you think of it like i described above and just treat it as a normal pay monthly MMO then its all good..
