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So what if guildwars 2 is a big hit and it comes to be very succsefull game?
with that fact that all the current mmo that are pay to play SWTOR, rift and TERA coming soon ect and that guildwars 2 1 time purchase and the cash shop
will this force these companys to change? whats do you guys think will happen will it change the MMO's? give me your opninion
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The only think that could change is the sub model> maybe?
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then there will be GW2 clones all over the market???? is that what you want to hear??
Who will say.....let's just wait and see huh?
I hope it is a hit, and I hope it changes sub models overall. Paying a monthly sub is just... outdated. I don't mind paying for the license itself, but a sub fee on top of that is becoming more difficult to justify. Bandwidth is cheap and plentiful, and will only become even more so as infrastructure improves worldwide. Development of new content is also far easier than the game's initial creation, and can easily be financed through expansion packs.
Sub fees need to disappear. B2P and F2P are the future of our hobby, and I welcome it. If GW2 is successful, hopefully more companies will go the aforementioned routes.
i agree with you 100% but i feel this soo called " Sub " is just way cow cash as quick as possible
lets be honest the box sales/ digital sales is enough money for any MMO and seems like Anet have proven that due to over all quaility by looks of guildwars 2 and that development of guildwars 2 is based on guildwars 1 purchases and so forth.
it just goes to show that most theses companys don't care about the customer anymore or about there product its not about making a good game now days its about the money
i feel you m8 but i think we aint never getting rid of paying again since the companies know people will pay for half the game AND you WILL buy the other stuff from their ingame item shops too (that should have been included into the game in the first place.
So omho F2P is even worse then a sub. (worse are the new games that have subs AND a shop).
Well for me i do hope the sub p2p method stops but companys will still try and rip us customers off its like i said before they only care about how much money they can make
example is this new trend of DLC
PAY $24.99!!! and gets BLA BLA DLC
DAY ONE DLC
good example is Gears of war 3
and new Mass effect 3
all these companys are on the bandwagon on DLC and Sub fees it needs to stop but we all know its going get worst were a DLC will come out each month and you will have to pay for it
I don't think people will see it as an MMO as it doesn't have the subscription so people will treat it like a standard multiplayer game and will still be subscribing to their other MMO of choice.
That is if the game is a hit, I hate all this GW2 worshipping, it happens with every MMO and they all fail. People come to these forums and just spread blind love and defend it against all the downfalls. We'll only know when the game is released...
This should really be a no brainer by now, not needed to be pointed out
Game companies would still rather have peoples 15 a month. Why would they suddenly just count on box sales. They may as well just leave the MMO market and focus on single player games, if boxed sales is where the profit was at
what will happen to others mmo? simple whats been happening till this day more mmo p2p will become f2p whit microtrans.
wish is not bad aslong it not be p2win micro.(advantage to pay players)
ex.-aion-lineage and some others becoming free .
It will not change anything with other mmos.
I'd say for most people with jobs it doesn't make any difference if they pay monthly fee for a game or not. I'd say they pay it gladly just to have a little chance it might make their gaming experience more mature(concerning other players behaviour in their chosen mmorpg).
Guild Wars 2 is imo a High Fantasy setting (with Armors that Shine too bright and weapons that are ridiculously big). Made towards yourger playerbase (ie cute little Asura race). There is also a Korean taste with combat animations and how targets and dmg is shown in game, style that pleases more youger eye.
I like the main hand/off hand idea which gives you a chance to great your own gear up combos for combat but then again it simplifies the toolbar use to 10 keys per set up (or 10-20 when you swap sets). Again feels like reaching for yourger playerbase to keep it simple and easily approachable.
You see a game setup leaning so strongly to please "kids" will not shake or change to world in the land of MMORPGs. The only huge impact I could think of coming is Blizzard messing up wow so that they'd be themselves the wow killers or a working Sandbox game which would be fresh breeze in this age of wow clones.
you are wrong till this day best mmo free whit no sub have been gw1 and never fail
gw2 would be the best again if we are talking abouth f2p and they build the game for us basically they know alot of pp like to play games and have fun but some cant, cause they cant pay monthly ,some have life problem and things to pay more important than games (and im a gamer ) .
basically subs game are on right now till this day because we really let them get away whit our money evrymonth
and for what ? even paying sub and keep paying for expantion? wtf is that ?
they take our money evry month and that is not enough to give us free expantion we (the communitie )
we are allowing this but soon or later subs game will become unsubs whit micro so they can have some kind of suport
and gw1 never fail on updates and suport even for a fr2p game and same whit others
we need to change that and atleast gw2 gonna be the first step.
(sorry for mi bad spelling)
Lesrach @ hey pal game is game idont know what you are talking abouth yourgest cause it dont matter if old and young pp play games thast what game are make for (no age restrintion) if you wanna play mature game go to redtube and play porn game ithink thast more mature if u would feel that way.
also im 25 but i hate when inmature adult talk abouth games being for kid or young ,tahst so ilogical
Hi dadante666 if the game looks to me as it was made for yourger audience it is my opinion. It is not illogigal in it self. You say I'm immature and tell me to go play porn. Your style of answer to me actually made my post, thank you for that.
You seem to be confusing GW2 and Tera. ArenaNet, based in Bellevue, Washington, is developing GW2 and there's an absolute minimum of Korean style influencing in this game. Tera, on the other hand, is the one with the shiny armor and the ridiculously massive weapons.
Oderint, dum metuant.
You have to understand, if it doesn't look ugly and gritty with terrible character models, then it's Korean.
I'm more than happy to get more "Korean" looking games even if they have nothing to do with that country.
The Asura is part of the lore. If you play "fantasy" mmorpg you must use your imagination. WoWs Tauren are no way cute but are accepted because they are tough looking. How about WoWs gnomes? Cute but no one ever complains because gnomes are somewhat known from our childhood so more readily accepted. I don't care if its a stick figure, if the game play is good I'm going with it.
Some of the armor is shiney to a point but in my opinion not bright. If I were to play an rpg part I would ask that my squire shine my armor!
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It won't change a thing seeing as GW2 is a B2P game much like any single-player console/PC game with a multi player option you cannot turn off. Unless you mean the amount of box sales? If so, then I hate to burst your bubble but if that was going to change things it would have done so years ago when games have been outperforming GW1 in that category for a while now.
Nah I think it's safe to assume that ArenaNet are no fools when they picked the B2P model to avoid any potential disappointing retention rates, subscription numbers and dev nightmares when it comes to trying to please the mmo vocal minority.
And this is coming from someone that has all 4 platforms (PC/XBox/PS3/Wii) and plays/played damn near anything under the sun. I'll get my copy of D3 and GW2 and they will be treated like throw games I can play in my spare time.
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When you see someone Flurry around with their 4m long 2-handed sword then you know what i mean by Korean
The same thing that happened when Guild Wars became a big hit and proved to be very successful.
Not a damn thing.
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sorry there's WAAAAY too much greed going on in corporate america for that to happen.
I like how you could take my "criticism" with humor. Btw I allways though allowing Gnomes to be Warlocks in WoW was as close to sacrilege as it can get And you are right Azura are part of the lore which I find "childish in style". But I'm going to play the game since I lack Fantasy setting games to play atm, just have to wear shades or turn my inner styleguard off
You can't compare GW1 to other actual MMO's at that time, come on now.
My personal view is that companies are so stubborn that they'll still insist on releasing and charging monthly at the start just because people will pay. They'll eventually swap to another model once their numbers start going down.
Yeah, some of those weapon sizes in Tera are flat out comical due to the extremes they're at. It's even funny when those little furry dudes pull a greatsword off their back and it suddenly grows to four times the size it was sheathed. Fortunately GW2 has kept their weapons a little more grounded in reality size-wise. Those extremes to be are a real negative.
It's wierd... I can accept people shooting fire from their fingers but not someone wielding a sword three times the length of their bodies...
Oderint, dum metuant.
I dont see how Guild Wars2 will be a big hit when most of the land will be using phase technology, so unless a LARGE group of people are on the same stage as u on a quest, or running the same dynamic event, u will never see them in this new "open world" they keep talking about. And let's not forget about the "portals" to seperate instances of the "open" gaming world.
Alot of players are going to be disappointed. So what will happen to other MMOs? They will continue to be released, milk player's for their $ in the form of subs, and continue to dwindle away into nothing afterwards.
In this new world of casual co-ops masquerading as MMOs there will never be another MMO with a long retention rate as long as developers are using the "run it to the ground" business model of milking the initial fanbase for a sub then abandoning the game to dust. So whose fault is it? The gamers who game hop or the developers' lack of longevity interest?
they will sell a minimum of 5 million at lunch easy!remember that at some point wow and gw totalled 16 million player!
for those two alone!i dont know in what market you refer to bu in america player will twist their schedule!
monday will be blizzard next day will be gw2 next day will be swtor (if they can convince player to stay after the player first 60 day card!
other game?they ll do like they done in the past get the rest of the player!social game will still thrive insanelly at facbook!