Honestly, what the ****. There's been collectors editions for almost every MMO to date.
Soundtrack, figurine, artbook, and art with a frame, a nice tin box. Why is this ripping anyone off? I want this, I like artwork I like the soundtrack, what's the problem? it's a collectors edition for a reason.
This has got to be the dumbest complaint ever especially coming in 2012 when all big releases are expected to have a collectors edition. Look at Skyrim and SWToR, their editions where pretty expensive too.
And "ripping off", wow, remember when MMO required you to pay for them every month!? Oh wait...
Honestly if you don't want the stuff or can't afford it, there is a normal edition. It's not like they are pushing you into a corner or anything with a knife at your throat.
I side with this, Guildwars 2 in my minds eye is the next coming of mmos. They deserve to have a fancy collectors edition, and If I could I would buy it in a second along with all the other hundreds CE's that come out that are extreamlly cool, but alas I cant do that not only because its expensive and I have way better things to spend on, but because of the timesink and return. Thats an entire another issue for me though.
When I first saw the Collector's edition this morning and thought that I would need to buy that in order to get into beta I was like I'll start saving so that I have the money by the 10th.
Then I just looked and saw that the Digital Deluxe version will also be available. Problem solved.
I bought the CE for WARHAMMER and realized after I got it that the beautful book that came with it was pretty useless really. How ridiculous do I look to be 30 with a Warhammer coffee table book?
The figurines as well are just over the top for any adult who want their home to not look like a star trek convention.
I would only be upset if the digital deluxe is more than 80$.
Been wondering all day, am i the only one shocked about the $150 they are asking for their collectors edition?
And i am even more shocked that there are people willing to pay that for stuff that ends in the trashbin sooner or later.
I think its a good example of a company trying to rip off their loyal fanbase. Following in the footsteps of EA's pricing scheme for the SWTOR boxes is not a good thing.
If they continue down this road, with their itemshop we might be in for a sad and shattered dream.
Nope and its not like they are bilking us out of having to pay a monthly fee anyway. Not that I intend to get anything other then the basic game, as I have always done but I hear that alot of times some of those colectors stuff has a relatively good resale value. Hell the single player RPG Reckoning had $350.00 collector editions with signed stuff from Salvatore, Rolsten and McFarlane that I would of loved to afford but the wife put her foot down.
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At least its not like SWTOR where there is some VIP lounge with items to buy, all the digital items are in the Digital Deluxe so you are paying for the physical items in the CE.
For me I am buying whichever regular box copy comes with the Beta Weekend access, and then spend the money I save on DD for character slots.
Been wondering all day, am i the only one shocked about the $150 they are asking for their collectors edition?
And i am even more shocked that there are people willing to pay that for stuff that ends in the trashbin sooner or later.
I think its a good example of a company trying to rip off their loyal fanbase. Following in the footsteps of EA's pricing scheme for the SWTOR boxes is not a good thing.
If they continue down this road, with their itemshop we might be in for a sad and shattered dream.
Nope and its not like they are bilking us out of having to pay a monthly fee anyway. Not that I intend to get anything other then the basic game, as I have always done but I hear that alot of times some of those colectors stuff has a relatively good resale value. Hell the single player RPG Reckoning had $350.00 collector editions with signed stuff from Salvatore, Rolsten and McFarlane that I would of loved to afford but the wife put her foot down.
I hadn't even thought about resale value. You could probably get 3-350$ for the collector's editions 2 week's after release. I don't have any extra money around though but I'm sure someone will flood Ebay with this.
Been wondering all day, am i the only one shocked about the $150 they are asking for their collectors edition?
And i am even more shocked that there are people willing to pay that for stuff that ends in the trashbin sooner or later.
I think its a good example of a company trying to rip off their loyal fanbase. Following in the footsteps of EA's pricing scheme for the SWTOR boxes is not a good thing.
If they continue down this road, with their itemshop we might be in for a sad and shattered dream.
I also think its too expensive so i will not buy it, you also have the choice not to buy it.
150 is expensive for some people, im sure they will sell all collectors edition without a problem...if they do so then it turns out its not expensive after all...
What I don't like are those retarded one time use items. The items I'm getting for playing GW1 should be good enough though. I'm not really that excited for GW2 honestly. It just seems like it'll be a game that isn't shitty. I'd like it if the female characters had skimpt clothes like tera and BnS though.
Actually they should be charging $250 because people will pay it just like they did with star wars and star wars screwed up by not making enough of them because they sold out of them. If you think the stuff will end up in the trash and they are charging to much anyway why are we even talking about it because you don't want it according to those comments.
there is a reason why it's call collectors edition its meant to be special. If you want to blame someone blame the companies that release collector edition with nothing worth collecting. At least it is expensive enough to reduce the amount of ppl who will own it, there by making it special.
Is this a way for NC Soft to make more money......yes. Should you be suprised or appallled.......no. The collector's edition holds value to a select number of people who religiously follow the lore or hold deep interest in a game or series. I will admit there is a small "exploitative" part to this.
On a different side though, the cost of this collectors edition is $150 now.........check ebay a month after release and see what the value is then. This doesnt speak to the long term value of the collector's edition..........but it does speak to the value "people" hold in something when they enjoy it.
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personal disclaimer: I am a huge fan of GW2 and yet I say........SCREW $150......i always buy the regular digital version........just saying.
That was expensive for sure, i smiled a little when Swtor did this. But atleast they had an collector IP from the start so i could actualy see the reason behind it.
If i had been able to try gw2 befor i deside what to preorder i would probably have bought the CE also, but to spend that much money without 1st hand experience aint an option. Ill just support em in other ways if i realy enjoys this title.
But as said that box is for fans only, rest should get standard or delux. I would actualy go for standard as the ingame goodies are 98% the time worthless no matter the game.
Been wondering all day, am i the only one shocked about the $150 they are asking for their collectors edition?
And i am even more shocked that there are people willing to pay that for stuff that ends in the trashbin sooner or later.
I think its a good example of a company trying to rip off their loyal fanbase. Following in the footsteps of EA's pricing scheme for the SWTOR boxes is not a good thing.
If they continue down this road, with their itemshop we might be in for a sad and shattered dream.
It's the trend for physical CEs in the industry. You can get all the same digital items from the Digital CE at a much more reasonable price. The physical items are actually for collectors, not people who just want the best possible in game advantages.
If those physical items apeal to you, the price is worth it. If not, don't buy it.
BTW, for people who collect PVC figures, a 10" (1/7 scale) figure usually retails for at least $40 to $60 and the value to collector's can appreciate considerable after the limited production run is over. An Eir figure probably would have been worth a lot more, but I think Rytlock has some potential as a collector's item. (I will admit that it's riskier than a hot Female character, which would have had higher value for collectors. Some of the female Lineage 2 figures of the same size sell for well over $100).
I probably won't buy it, but there is a market for this kind of premium physical CE and I really appreciate that the digital CE provides the exact same digital items as the full prices physical CE!
What i find even more shocking is that in this day and age people still dont understand the concept of a collectors edition. The entire purpose of it is to provide extra fluff items for people who have the desire and the cash to get it. Its not the standard edition, intended to be bought by everyone. Its so ridiculously simple. Dont feel the items are worth the price, then DONT BUY IT. Stop complaining about the price of something that you are in no way required to buy.
Its not a matter of not wanting/needing it, its a matter of an unfair pricing scheme, despite what you all think the production costs of the extra's might not even be $10 but they charge $90 for it... that would be the same as charging $180 for a pair of Nike sport shoes, where the production costs and the marketing costs together are about $20 a pair... I am glad nike sells them for about $170 these days.
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Its not a matter of not wanting/needing it, its a matter of an unfair pricing scheme, despite what you all think the production costs of the extra's might not even be $10 but they charge $90 for it... that would be the same as charging $180 for a pair of Nike sport shoes, where the production costs and the marketing costs together are about $20 a pair... I am glad nike sells them for about $170 these days.
The materials for that statue alone would cost more than $10. They're also hand assembled and hand painted. Anime figurines are made in workshops in China with dirt cheap labor and still cost $70-100. They probably do make some profit off of it, in the same way that they'd make profit off of it if they sold the items separately.
Now, if they had some super awesome in game item that was exclusive to the CE, THEN it'd be an unfair pricing scheme, as they're forcing you to buy the CE for a single item that does affect the gameplay. However, they're not. You're buying the CE because you want those items. If you don't, then buy the digital deluxe version or the standard version.
The artbook is being sold separately for $20, and they'll probably sell the sound track separately down the line too.
Its not a matter of not wanting/needing it, its a matter of an unfair pricing scheme, despite what you all think the production costs of the extra's might not even be $10 but they charge $90 for it... that would be the same as charging $180 for a pair of Nike sport shoes, where the production costs and the marketing costs together are about $20 a pair... I am glad nike sells them for about $170 these days.
You think a hand-painted 10" figurine with that much detail costs less than $10 to make? The cost of labor in painting that alone would be higher. I'll give you the artbooks and the soundtrack though, all they really did is compile them in a physical way for those who like that kind of thing (book/cd). I'm sure there are people that find value in that, but I'm not one. I like the figurine, but not enough to spend that kind of money on it.
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it's not like you need the CE in order to play the game.
If you want the trinkets that come with the CE, sure, you need to pay the money. Some people like them, and more power to them. They don't do anything to affect or impact your gameplay - which is good. If you like the game and the lore that much, it's worth it to you. But it doesn't restrict or impact your gaming experience.
You can think of it as an investment - I remember some people paying upwards of $1k for a WoW CE box about a year after WoW came out (and they were only available on Ebay and the like from people who had snatched them up at release).
And if you don't think it's worth it, then don't buy it - really... I don't see why people are all ranting about this. The standard edition at $60 is pretty well what all the new AAA releases cost these days, and has been the basic price for the last couple f years. It's not like this is a Bioware title and you need the CE to get the Day 1 DLC or anything.
Uhhh. A:) It's entirely your choice if you want to buy the collector's or not. B:) $150 aint bad for a nice looking collector's edition with an awsome statue that probably over half the cost of the whole thing.... C:) It's Buy to Play. Be thankful they're not charging you every month after buying the box....
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I side with this, Guildwars 2 in my minds eye is the next coming of mmos. They deserve to have a fancy collectors edition, and If I could I would buy it in a second along with all the other hundreds CE's that come out that are extreamlly cool, but alas I cant do that not only because its expensive and I have way better things to spend on, but because of the timesink and return. Thats an entire another issue for me though.
When I first saw the Collector's edition this morning and thought that I would need to buy that in order to get into beta I was like I'll start saving so that I have the money by the 10th.
Then I just looked and saw that the Digital Deluxe version will also be available. Problem solved.
I bought the CE for WARHAMMER and realized after I got it that the beautful book that came with it was pretty useless really. How ridiculous do I look to be 30 with a Warhammer coffee table book?
The figurines as well are just over the top for any adult who want their home to not look like a star trek convention.
I would only be upset if the digital deluxe is more than 80$.
Its funny how ppl complain about the statue,artbook and stuff as useless in a Collector's Edition.
So obviously they are NOT a collector, just buy normal edition then. geez
Nope and its not like they are bilking us out of having to pay a monthly fee anyway. Not that I intend to get anything other then the basic game, as I have always done but I hear that alot of times some of those colectors stuff has a relatively good resale value. Hell the single player RPG Reckoning had $350.00 collector editions with signed stuff from Salvatore, Rolsten and McFarlane that I would of loved to afford but the wife put her foot down.
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Don't like it don't buy it.
At least its not like SWTOR where there is some VIP lounge with items to buy, all the digital items are in the Digital Deluxe so you are paying for the physical items in the CE.
For me I am buying whichever regular box copy comes with the Beta Weekend access, and then spend the money I save on DD for character slots.
I hadn't even thought about resale value. You could probably get 3-350$ for the collector's editions 2 week's after release. I don't have any extra money around though but I'm sure someone will flood Ebay with this.
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I also think its too expensive so i will not buy it, you also have the choice not to buy it.
150 is expensive for some people, im sure they will sell all collectors edition without a problem...if they do so then it turns out its not expensive after all...
Never intended to get anything but basic. If someone has the money to get the CE, then more power to them...
What I don't like are those retarded one time use items. The items I'm getting for playing GW1 should be good enough though. I'm not really that excited for GW2 honestly. It just seems like it'll be a game that isn't shitty. I'd like it if the female characters had skimpt clothes like tera and BnS though.
Can we go back to the $80-$90 CE price point please?
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Actually they should be charging $250 because people will pay it just like they did with star wars and star wars screwed up by not making enough of them because they sold out of them. If you think the stuff will end up in the trash and they are charging to much anyway why are we even talking about it because you don't want it according to those comments.
there is a reason why it's call collectors edition its meant to be special. If you want to blame someone blame the companies that release collector edition with nothing worth collecting. At least it is expensive enough to reduce the amount of ppl who will own it, there by making it special.
Is this a way for NC Soft to make more money......yes. Should you be suprised or appallled.......no. The collector's edition holds value to a select number of people who religiously follow the lore or hold deep interest in a game or series. I will admit there is a small "exploitative" part to this.
On a different side though, the cost of this collectors edition is $150 now.........check ebay a month after release and see what the value is then. This doesnt speak to the long term value of the collector's edition..........but it does speak to the value "people" hold in something when they enjoy it.
THAT IS ALL
personal disclaimer: I am a huge fan of GW2 and yet I say........SCREW $150......i always buy the regular digital version........just saying.
That was expensive for sure, i smiled a little when Swtor did this. But atleast they had an collector IP from the start so i could actualy see the reason behind it.
If i had been able to try gw2 befor i deside what to preorder i would probably have bought the CE also, but to spend that much money without 1st hand experience aint an option. Ill just support em in other ways if i realy enjoys this title.
But as said that box is for fans only, rest should get standard or delux. I would actualy go for standard as the ingame goodies are 98% the time worthless no matter the game.
It's the trend for physical CEs in the industry. You can get all the same digital items from the Digital CE at a much more reasonable price. The physical items are actually for collectors, not people who just want the best possible in game advantages.
If those physical items apeal to you, the price is worth it. If not, don't buy it.
BTW, for people who collect PVC figures, a 10" (1/7 scale) figure usually retails for at least $40 to $60 and the value to collector's can appreciate considerable after the limited production run is over. An Eir figure probably would have been worth a lot more, but I think Rytlock has some potential as a collector's item. (I will admit that it's riskier than a hot Female character, which would have had higher value for collectors. Some of the female Lineage 2 figures of the same size sell for well over $100).
I probably won't buy it, but there is a market for this kind of premium physical CE and I really appreciate that the digital CE provides the exact same digital items as the full prices physical CE!
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What i find even more shocking is that in this day and age people still dont understand the concept of a collectors edition. The entire purpose of it is to provide extra fluff items for people who have the desire and the cash to get it. Its not the standard edition, intended to be bought by everyone. Its so ridiculously simple. Dont feel the items are worth the price, then DONT BUY IT. Stop complaining about the price of something that you are in no way required to buy.
LoL i know its Buy to play, why else whould he complain about PRICE??? i ment F2P in a sence that there is no monthly fee's
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Its not a matter of not wanting/needing it, its a matter of an unfair pricing scheme, despite what you all think the production costs of the extra's might not even be $10 but they charge $90 for it... that would be the same as charging $180 for a pair of Nike sport shoes, where the production costs and the marketing costs together are about $20 a pair... I am glad nike sells them for about $170 these days.
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The materials for that statue alone would cost more than $10. They're also hand assembled and hand painted. Anime figurines are made in workshops in China with dirt cheap labor and still cost $70-100. They probably do make some profit off of it, in the same way that they'd make profit off of it if they sold the items separately.
Now, if they had some super awesome in game item that was exclusive to the CE, THEN it'd be an unfair pricing scheme, as they're forcing you to buy the CE for a single item that does affect the gameplay. However, they're not. You're buying the CE because you want those items. If you don't, then buy the digital deluxe version or the standard version.
The artbook is being sold separately for $20, and they'll probably sell the sound track separately down the line too.
How is it 'unfair'?
You think a hand-painted 10" figurine with that much detail costs less than $10 to make? The cost of labor in painting that alone would be higher. I'll give you the artbooks and the soundtrack though, all they really did is compile them in a physical way for those who like that kind of thing (book/cd). I'm sure there are people that find value in that, but I'm not one. I like the figurine, but not enough to spend that kind of money on it.
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Chill....
it's not like you need the CE in order to play the game.
If you want the trinkets that come with the CE, sure, you need to pay the money. Some people like them, and more power to them. They don't do anything to affect or impact your gameplay - which is good. If you like the game and the lore that much, it's worth it to you. But it doesn't restrict or impact your gaming experience.
You can think of it as an investment - I remember some people paying upwards of $1k for a WoW CE box about a year after WoW came out (and they were only available on Ebay and the like from people who had snatched them up at release).
And if you don't think it's worth it, then don't buy it - really... I don't see why people are all ranting about this. The standard edition at $60 is pretty well what all the new AAA releases cost these days, and has been the basic price for the last couple f years. It's not like this is a Bioware title and you need the CE to get the Day 1 DLC or anything.
Uhhh. A:) It's entirely your choice if you want to buy the collector's or not. B:) $150 aint bad for a nice looking collector's edition with an awsome statue that probably over half the cost of the whole thing.... C:) It's Buy to Play. Be thankful they're not charging you every month after buying the box....