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More Than 1.7 Million Active Subscribers 2/1/12 [EA Conf Call Discussion Thread]
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This is the problem with the game launching 11 days before the end of their reporting quarter, it was never going to be very clear on the report itself because everyone was still in their first month. Which means that it has to be cleared up with clear as mud statements on reporting day.
1.7 subs at the end of Dec. Who cares? People need to do more research.
Right. About 1.5 mil played the game at early access...and about 500k more have bought the game since then. Simple statistics could now extrapolate a near 80% retention for the remaining 500k that joined since launch.
From Dec 20th till Jan 20 was the free month, 2 million+ had a sub set up, after Jan 20th 1.7 million resubed, so from Jan 20th till now there are a average of 1.7 million subs, meaning people with a open payment plan with Swtor.
So you please try again, it's not hard to understand if you just put you hate down for one second and see logic.
This was just posted on page 30 of this thread,
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=260271&page=30
"BioWare has delivered a game that millions will play for a long time"
My paraphrasing of what was said about SWTOR's launch on the conference call:
Sold-through 2 million units since December.
1.7 million active subs. Rest have not started yet or have opted out.
Metrics suggest players are loving game.
Unique logins 1 million per day, average playtime 4 hours per day.
Server performance allowed introduction of players faster than expected in pre-order.
Server stability has been excellent.
Lack of congestion was not sign of slow participtaion. Shortly after launch, server efficiency was doubled, allowing servers to handle far more players and lifting the limits previously experienced.
Next phase- new content, frequent releases and aggressively courting new subs.
Another major update in March, larger than most recent one.
Adopting rates are trending favorably.
Ambitious plan to reach broader market with new marketing buys, will be seeing that soon.
Any one mind doing another thread
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
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This ^^
Yes, please everyone continue! LMAO
If you cut it too short you can always nail a piece on the end.
If you cut it too long then what the hell are you gonna do?
probably should since people seem to be ignoring this link...
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
why do you think I stick around here? this stuff is more fun than actually playin the game.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
This report is for the end of the fiscal year of 2011 but you are saying that the numbers qouted is for the current month. If that is true then what is the numbers for the time for which the report is for?
Something does not feel right here... why make a report for end of 2011 but give the numbers for after 2011, makes no sense to me.
So I would say that the numbers are for end of decembre. 2 million boxes sold and out of those 1.7 million activated their subscriptions by end of 2011. What the situation is now is not and should not be in the report because it is for end of 2011 and not beginning of 2012.
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I know it's crazy right at first people ignored generated,had, and/or active now people are ignoring the red. Crazy indeed.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
lol its funny how they dont show the sales since DEC- JAN 2012. You find it has dropped a lot. If you are playing it like some of us this news of lol how many players/xfire and such.. were not seeing any servers full anymore and never gets past 150 people in a zone and pick ANY SERVER go ANYWHERE.. but pick the HEAVY ones and unless your on a space station.. its very very empty.
Like I said you go in game and your like ..where are all these people?
Anoyone shocked they didn't announce TOR was going F2P?
Say what?
In the entire history of accounts you have to pay to use (not just MMO's).
Active = you can log in
Inactive = you cannot log in.
Active subscription = you are actively paying a subscription fee.
Being a Pending subscriber or potential subscriber has absolutely nothing to do with being an active subscriber. The only number that should have been protrayed as "active subscribers" was the number of people who had paid in one form or another.. for a subscription at the time of the call. Not those who might pay but could cancel before they can be billed.
I don't like the game but I accepted the numbers and in my first post .. said good for EA. I didn't expect that number was made up of any group of people who hadn't actually paid a subscription fee... that's just a tad odd in my opinion.
*edit* I just wanted to Add. Outside of gamecards which you cannot get a refund on. The earliest any "paid subscriber" could have been billed was Jan 19th.. but the 1 month I decided to pay for wasn't billed until after the 20th. It was pending a few days and I believe went through on the 22nd.
I would now like to know when these numbers were generated... as well as what number had actually paid anything when it was generated.
Click the link and you will see it is up till 12/31/11... Nothing from 1/1/12 till now is on there. No hate here just facts.
Forum Wars FTW!
Good thing it's not full loot though.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
In his very first sentence:
said Chief Executive Officer John Riccitiello. "Star Wars: The Old Republic is developing a committed community of players with more than 1.7 million active subscribers and growing."
That is not market-speak/spin-doctoring last quarter numbers.
I'd be shocked if they did!
...no wayyyy O.O
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
What Tinuelle said.
I'm more shocked that anyone would even consider this going F2P within the next two years.
You are twisting things.
I have a subscription = I can log on
I have an ACTIVE supscription = I can log on and it is active for renewal purposes.
In a quarterly report ending 31 December they do not include any information for January (the following quarter) and to think so is just plain wrong.
I can also predict: that MY new MMO will be played by millions for a long time!
See how this works?
Why do you think EA made it so you need to give your payment details even if you wanted to only use your free 30 days?
1. People might forget to unsubscribe even if dissatisfied.
2. If you don't have a CC(which is not uncommon in EU or among minors in US), you need to buy a GTC along the game just to be able to play.
3. It pretties up statistics like these, because if you gave EA your CC details and allow them to place charges to it they can legitimately claim your an active subscriber. Its the act of giving them permission to bill you that makes you a active subscriber, not the actual transfer of funds that may occur at a later date.
and it's still going maybe someone should make a thread with this link heh
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html