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TERA: En Masse Responds to NCSoft Lawsuit

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After originally stating that En Masse would refrain from commentary regarding the TERA lawsuit filed by NCSoft, Publishing Vice President Chris Lee has been quoted on the official forums summarily dismissing the allegations...and saying that the company would refrain from further commentary.

"We are disappointed that NCsoft is attempting to mar the launch of TERA. Unfortunately we can't discuss much publicly due to the sensitivity of legal actions, but we do outright reject the NCsoft claims, and we are going to do everything in our power to defend and protect ourselves.



To all our supporters who have been anticipating the arrival of TERA – please know that this situation has no impact on our continuing efforts to realize the vision we have for our game. We are committed to making TERA awesome and delivering the game to you on time on May 1. Thank you for your patience and support."

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  • RecoreRecore Posts: 5,093Member Uncommon

    Good luck

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  • nyxiumnyxium ManchesterPosts: 1,221Member Uncommon

    Only a duel to the death by pistols at dawn can truly resolve this situation. It is demanded.

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  • dinamsdinams Muriae, VAPosts: 1,362Member

    Originally posted by nyxium

    Only a duel to the death by pistols at dawn can truly resolve this situation. It is demanded.

    I think they should play a match of unreal tournament to see who wins this

    See what I did there?

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  • saurus123saurus123 nonePosts: 569Member Uncommon

    To all our supporters who have been anticipating the arrival of TERA – please know that this situation has no impact on our continuing efforts to realize the vision we have for our game.

     

    they stole the code, lost case in korea and still calling tera thier game?

    :D

  • nyxiumnyxium ManchesterPosts: 1,221Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by dinams

    Originally posted by nyxium

    Only a duel to the death by pistols at dawn can truly resolve this situation. It is demanded.

    I think they should play a match of unreal tournament to see who wins this

    See what I did there?

    No rematches!

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  • LetysonLetyson LystrupPosts: 13Member

    Originally posted by saurus123

    To all our supporters who have been anticipating the arrival of TERA – please know that this situation has no impact on our continuing efforts to realize the vision we have for our game.

     

    they stole the code, lost case in korea and still calling tera thier game?

    :D


     

    Sure if it's possible to steal your own work, then I guess they stole it...

    I know they were under NCsoft payment, but these type of legal questions are so stupid since they can't really unlearn their own vision for a new project. Sure they lost the case in Korea, but they basically payed NCsoft a large amount of money, so there shouldn't be a problem.. NCsoft are just being D's now for doing this close to launch.

  • RagnorMalakRagnorMalak HeerenveenPosts: 117Member

    Originally posted by dinams

    Originally posted by nyxium

    Only a duel to the death by pistols at dawn can truly resolve this situation. It is demanded.

    I think they should play a match of unreal tournament to see who wins this

    See what I did there?

    You're clever today ;)

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  • Master10KMaster10K LondonPosts: 3,065Member

    This is like Tabula Rasa all over again. This game sounds like it's doomed to become vapourware, the more I hear about this lawsuit.

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  • Sector13Sector13 New Providence, PAPosts: 687Member

    Originally posted by Letyson



    Originally posted by saurus123



    To all our supporters who have been anticipating the arrival of TERA – please know that this situation has no impact on our continuing efforts to realize the vision we have for our game.

     

    they stole the code, lost case in korea and still calling tera thier game?

    :D






     

    Sure if it's possible to steal your own work, then I guess they stole it...

    I know they were under NCsoft payment, but these type of legal questions are so stupid since they can't really unlearn their own vision for a new project. Sure they lost the case in Korea, but they basically payed NCsoft a large amount of money, so there shouldn't be a problem.. NCsoft are just being D's now for doing this close to launch.

    Obviously you need to read what happened. BHS and EME are in the wrong here. Simple as that.

  • MsengeMsenge baltimore, MDPosts: 90Member

    Originally posted by Letyson



    Originally posted by saurus123



    To all our supporters who have been anticipating the arrival of TERA – please know that this situation has no impact on our continuing efforts to realize the vision we have for our game.

     

    they stole the code, lost case in korea and still calling tera thier game?

    :D






     

    Sure if it's possible to steal your own work, then I guess they stole it...

    I know they were under NCsoft payment, but these type of legal questions are so stupid since they can't really unlearn their own vision for a new project. Sure they lost the case in Korea, but they basically payed NCsoft a large amount of money, so there shouldn't be a problem.. NCsoft are just being D's now for doing this close to launch.

    And how exactly was NCSoft supposted to take a claim to US courts before EME made a offical move to launch in the US (i.e. a launch date for release)?  Considering they only just recently posted a release date NCSoft acted pretty quickly.

  • AkaisAkais Memphis, TNPosts: 274Member Common

    I was wondering when this issue would raise its' head.  NA's laws on this matter are much more stringent and they have already given in on the suit filed in Korea. I don't know that double jeopardy could even possibly count.

    NCSoft is really just bleeding these guys now.

    Would be funny if TERA came here and was a breakout hit given how Aion has done.

  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAPosts: 18,453Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Letyson



     

    Sure if it's possible to steal your own work, then I guess they stole it...

    I know they were under NCsoft payment, but these type of legal questions are so stupid since they can't really unlearn their own vision for a new project. Sure they lost the case in Korea, but they basically payed NCsoft a large amount of money, so there shouldn't be a problem.. NCsoft are just being D's now for doing this close to launch.

    Hey Letyson, I don't think you realize how this stuff works.

    When you are hired by a company you sign contracts that stated that anything you create using company tools, money or anything you create on company time belongs to that company.

    Sometimes companies also have employees sign a non-compete agreement.

    So sure, one can't unlearn what one learns while at a company but once you are no longer part of that company you must apply what you learn in a way that doesn't infringe on what you created at that company.

  • MephsterMephster Tyria, NJPosts: 1,188Member

    I honestly could care less about what NCSoft thinks. Their games are never that good except Guild Wars 2. I wonder if Tera's release date has anything to do with the fact with Guild Wars 2's release plans. Interesting at best I think.

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  • LetysonLetyson LystrupPosts: 13Member

    Originally posted by Sector13

    Obviously you need to read what happened. BHS and EME are in the wrong here. Simple as that.

     

    I know very well what happen, but this goes beyond money and reason. They are just doing this now to get payback when they left the company to start with. NCsoft have had all the time to take this case up, and they decide to do it now, and for what?

    If NCsoft wins they can just sit back then and say: "Awesome, that was great we made them loose this case, now they can't release their game because it's our material, now we'll have no worries when we release Guild Wars 2"

    ... ye great, thx NCsoft, you sure did need that 

  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Leland, NCPosts: 3,275Member

    Originally posted by Letyson



    Originally posted by saurus123



    To all our supporters who have been anticipating the arrival of TERA – please know that this situation has no impact on our continuing efforts to realize the vision we have for our game.

     

    they stole the code, lost case in korea and still calling tera thier game?

    :D






     

    Sure if it's possible to steal your own work, then I guess they stole it...

    I know they were under NCsoft payment, but these type of legal questions are so stupid since they can't really unlearn their own vision for a new project. Sure they lost the case in Korea, but they basically payed NCsoft a large amount of money, so there shouldn't be a problem.. NCsoft are just being D's now for doing this close to launch.

    When you enter the real workforce you will find out real quick why BHS is in the wrong.  There are contracts and forms that were signed and if they used any of the code that belonged to NCSoft in Tera then it is wrong and the game should be stopped.  This has zero to do with unlearning something.  When I took my position I had to sign non compete agreements and I have seen my company sue succesfully when people took  work we were doing here to another company.  When you enter tha real world arena you will come face to face with these legally binding situattions.

  • LeucrottaLeucrotta DurhamPosts: 679Member

    Originally posted by Letyson


     

    I know very well what happen, but this goes beyond money and reason. They are just doing this now to get payback when they left the company to start with. NCsoft have had all the time to take this case up, and they decide to do it now, and for what?

    If NCsoft wins they can just sit back then and say: "Awesome, that was great we made them loose this case, now they can't release their game because it's our material, now we'll have no worries when we release Guild Wars 2"

    ... ye great, thx NCsoft, you sure did need that 

    They didnt sue just now, NC and BHS are in court for years already

  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Leland, NCPosts: 3,275Member

    Originally posted by Mephster

    I honestly could care less about what NCSoft thinks. Their games are never that good except Guild Wars 2. I wonder if Tera's release date has anything to do with the fact with Guild Wars 2's release plans. Interesting at best I think.

    Tera is no competition to GW2.  GW2 is mass market and aimed at a large audience.  Tera is aimed to a niche audience.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member

    You know what would be bad? If they hired some people who inserted the L3 source code into Tera without telling anyone. They got the jobs because they could produce code, and instead of producing it, they copied it.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • LetysonLetyson LystrupPosts: 13Member

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Hey Letyson, I don't think you realize how this stuff works.

    When you are hired by a company you sign contracts that stated that anything you create using company tools, money or anything you create on company time belongs to that company.

    Sometimes companies also have employees sign a non-compete agreement.

    So sure, one can't unlearn what one learns while at a company but once you are no longer part of that company you must apply what you learn in a way that doesn't infringe on what you created at that company.


     

    Yes I know that, but that doesn't mean I actually agree on it.

    Coding  and ideas are like craftsmanship, no matter how much you restrict yourself will you keep finding small similarities here and there. I know that BHS and EME have a bad case here, and I know that through court procedures NCsoft have all the right to claim their stuff since they were paying the people and they were under contract.

    I just feel like this could hurt us who are waiting for Tera, just because NCsoft wants to be "right" D:

  • arctarusarctarus nilPosts: 2,570Member Uncommon

    GW2 is b2p. tera, most likely is p2p, i really couldnt see the competition that tera will have against gw2.

     

    Someone in the official forum , and here, did say that BH is not allow to publish the game any further, but i dont know why NC didnt stop them from publishing in Jap.

     

     

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  • AusareAusare adamstown, MDPosts: 850Member

    every country has different laws.

  • EliandalEliandal Chelmsford, ONPosts: 796Member

    Originally posted by Letyson



    Originally posted by saurus123



    To all our supporters who have been anticipating the arrival of TERA – please know that this situation has no impact on our continuing efforts to realize the vision we have for our game.

     

    they stole the code, lost case in korea and still calling tera thier game?

    :D






     

    Sure if it's possible to steal your own work, then I guess they stole it...

    I know they were under NCsoft payment, but these type of legal questions are so stupid since they can't really unlearn their own vision for a new project. Sure they lost the case in Korea, but they basically payed NCsoft a large amount of money, so there shouldn't be a problem.. NCsoft are just being D's now for doing this close to launch.

     

      They've paid NC nothing.  The damage portion of the award was struck down by an Appellate court in Korea.  The matter is still before the courts in Korea - even though the game has launched there.

  • LetysonLetyson LystrupPosts: 13Member

    Originally posted by Eliandal

      They've paid NC nothing.  The damage portion of the award was struck down by an Appellate court in Korea.  The matter is still before the courts in Korea - even though the game has launched there.


     

    Alright then I guess that site I read have been giving me misleading info. If the matter is still going on in Korea, that just makes this even more stupid. I don't understand how they would be able to release the game then in korea, but I suppose they have funny laws there.

  • VhalnVhaln Chicago, ILPosts: 3,159Member

    Originally posted by Sector13

    Originally posted by Letyson

    Sure if it's possible to steal your own work, then I guess they stole it...

    I know they were under NCsoft payment, but these type of legal questions are so stupid since they can't really unlearn their own vision for a new project. Sure they lost the case in Korea, but they basically payed NCsoft a large amount of money, so there shouldn't be a problem.. NCsoft are just being D's now for doing this close to launch.

    Obviously you need to read what happened. BHS and EME are in the wrong here. Simple as that.

     

    Did you read the actual legal document?  It doesn't even say anything about code.  What they're being accused of stealing is more conceptual.

     

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  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Fredericksburg, VAPosts: 2,920Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Letyson



    Originally posted by saurus123



    To all our supporters who have been anticipating the arrival of TERA – please know that this situation has no impact on our continuing efforts to realize the vision we have for our game.

     

    they stole the code, lost case in korea and still calling tera thier game?

    :D






     

    Sure if it's possible to steal your own work, then I guess they stole it...

    I know they were under NCsoft payment, but these type of legal questions are so stupid since they can't really unlearn their own vision for a new project. Sure they lost the case in Korea, but they basically payed NCsoft a large amount of money, so there shouldn't be a problem.. NCsoft are just being D's now for doing this close to launch.

    Unfortunately, technically the did steal the work. NCsoft pays for their programs and employees to even get the game off the ground. To allow them to take Tera and walk out the door is a huge investment NCsoft just lost.

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