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Seems like the game has peaked on XFire

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  • RasputinRasputin Member UncommonPosts: 602

    Originally posted by Metentso

    Andorra is close to where I live :), between Catalonia (my country) and France. They have catalan as an oficial language, which is my mother tongue :)

    Sorry, i had to say it!!!

    Go go Andorra with SWTOR!!!



    Well, strictly speaking Catalonia is a region in Spain, but I guess you will burn me as a heretic for saying that :)

  • MetentsoMetentso Member UncommonPosts: 1,437

    Enough off-topic!

     

    It's difficult now to post the graph, have to save it in PS and upload to tinypic.com...  Before I could just paste it.. ah well... here it is:

     

     

    Taking a break at 3000 feet.

    Wow is going down btw.

     

    And some data:



     

    DAY

    DATE

    # players

    % same day prev. week

    % from max

    notes

    Sunday

    01/04/12

    3911

    -9,53%

    -66,86%

     

    Monday

    02/04/12

    3587

    -4,95%

    -69,60%

     

    Tuesday

    03/04/12

    3389

    -8,85%

    -71,28%

     

    Wednesday

    04/04/12

    3458

    -5,44%

    -70,69%

     

    Thursday

    05/04/12

    3465

    -4,76%

    -70,64%

     

    Friday

    06/04/12

    3532

    0,68%

    -70,07%

    free week end

    Saturday

    07/04/12

    3570

    -3,98%

    -69,75%

    aprox

    Sunday

    08/04/12

    4009

    2,51%

    -66,03%

     

    Monday

    09/04/12

    3539

    -1,34%

    -70,01%

     

    Tuesday

    10/04/12

    3329

    -1,77%

    -71,79%

     

    Wednesday

    11/04/12

    3371

    -2,52%

    -71,43%

     

    Thursday

    12/04/12

    3989

    15,12%

    -66,19%

    jebus patch

    Friday

    13/04/12

    3836

    8,61%

    -67,49%

     

    Saturday

    14/04/12

    4213

    18,01%

    -64,30%

     

    Sunday

    15/04/12

    4372

    9,05%

    -62,95%

     

    Monday

    16/04/12

    4006

    13,20%

    -66,05%

     

    Tuesday

    17/04/12

    3827

    14,96%

    -67,57%

     

    Wednesday

    18/04/12

    3904

    15,81%

    -66,92%

     

    Thursday

    19/04/12

    3794

    -4,89%

    -67,85%

     

    Friday

    20/04/12

    3652

    -4,80%

    -69,05%

     

    Saturday

    21/04/12

    3699

    -12,20%

    -68,65%

     

    Sunday

    22/04/12

    3840

    -12,17%

    -67,46%

     

    Monday

    23/04/12

    3434

    -14,28%

    -70,90%

     

    Tuesday

    24/04/12

    3179

    -16,93%

    -73,06%

    lowest ever

    Wednesday

    25/04/12

    3184

    -18,44%

    -73,02%

     

    Thursday

    26/04/12

    3217

    -15,21%

    -72,74%

     

     

  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919

    "Subs are going up" news hits the headlines.

    A month later this was clarified as "subs are going up in Catalonia having risen from 1 to 2".

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452
    It seems to be settling down, I wonder how much of an effect spamming free time at everything that moves is having on these figures, obviously they can't do that forever.
  • KaocanKaocan Member UncommonPosts: 1,270
    Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

    (DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452

    Originally posted by Kaocan

    Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

    They are published the next day, about 2pm GMT

  • GreyhooffGreyhooff Member Posts: 654

    Originally posted by Metentso

    Enough off-topic!

     

    It's difficult now to post the graph, have to save it in PS and upload to tinypic.com...  Before I could just paste it.. ah well... here it is:

     

     

    Taking a break at 3000 feet.

    Wow is going down btw.

     

    And some data:



     

    DAY

    DATE

    # players

    % same day prev. week

    % from max

    notes

    Sunday

    01/04/12

    3911

    -9,53%

    -66,86%

     

    Monday

    02/04/12

    3587

    -4,95%

    -69,60%

     

    Tuesday

    03/04/12

    3389

    -8,85%

    -71,28%

     

    Wednesday

    04/04/12

    3458

    -5,44%

    -70,69%

     

    Thursday

    05/04/12

    3465

    -4,76%

    -70,64%

     

    Friday

    06/04/12

    3532

    0,68%

    -70,07%

    free week end

    Saturday

    07/04/12

    3570

    -3,98%

    -69,75%

    aprox

    Sunday

    08/04/12

    4009

    2,51%

    -66,03%

     

    Monday

    09/04/12

    3539

    -1,34%

    -70,01%

     

    Tuesday

    10/04/12

    3329

    -1,77%

    -71,79%

     

    Wednesday

    11/04/12

    3371

    -2,52%

    -71,43%

     

    Thursday

    12/04/12

    3989

    15,12%

    -66,19%

    jebus patch

    Friday

    13/04/12

    3836

    8,61%

    -67,49%

     

    Saturday

    14/04/12

    4213

    18,01%

    -64,30%

     

    Sunday

    15/04/12

    4372

    9,05%

    -62,95%

     

    Monday

    16/04/12

    4006

    13,20%

    -66,05%

     

    Tuesday

    17/04/12

    3827

    14,96%

    -67,57%

     

    Wednesday

    18/04/12

    3904

    15,81%

    -66,92%

     

    Thursday

    19/04/12

    3794

    -4,89%

    -67,85%

     

    Friday

    20/04/12

    3652

    -4,80%

    -69,05%

     

    Saturday

    21/04/12

    3699

    -12,20%

    -68,65%

     

    Sunday

    22/04/12

    3840

    -12,17%

    -67,46%

     

    Monday

    23/04/12

    3434

    -14,28%

    -70,90%

     

    Tuesday

    24/04/12

    3179

    -16,93%

    -73,06%

    lowest ever

    Wednesday

    25/04/12

    3184

    -18,44%

    -73,02%

     

    Thursday

    26/04/12

    3217

    -15,21%

    -72,74%

     

     

     

    If peak users represented 1.7 million subs, would you say that this current reduction in activity would indicate (not prove) that there are only around 400k subs left in swtor?

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  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452

    Originally posted by Greyhooff

    Originally posted by Metentso

    Enough off-topic!

     

    It's difficult now to post the graph, have to save it in PS and upload to tinypic.com...  Before I could just paste it.. ah well... here it is:

     

     

    Taking a break at 3000 feet.

    Wow is going down btw.

     

    And some data:



     

    DAY

    DATE

    # players

    % same day prev. week

    % from max

    notes

    Sunday

    01/04/12

    3911

    -9,53%

    -66,86%

     

    Monday

    02/04/12

    3587

    -4,95%

    -69,60%

     

    Tuesday

    03/04/12

    3389

    -8,85%

    -71,28%

     

    Wednesday

    04/04/12

    3458

    -5,44%

    -70,69%

     

    Thursday

    05/04/12

    3465

    -4,76%

    -70,64%

     

    Friday

    06/04/12

    3532

    0,68%

    -70,07%

    free week end

    Saturday

    07/04/12

    3570

    -3,98%

    -69,75%

    aprox

    Sunday

    08/04/12

    4009

    2,51%

    -66,03%

     

    Monday

    09/04/12

    3539

    -1,34%

    -70,01%

     

    Tuesday

    10/04/12

    3329

    -1,77%

    -71,79%

     

    Wednesday

    11/04/12

    3371

    -2,52%

    -71,43%

     

    Thursday

    12/04/12

    3989

    15,12%

    -66,19%

    jebus patch

    Friday

    13/04/12

    3836

    8,61%

    -67,49%

     

    Saturday

    14/04/12

    4213

    18,01%

    -64,30%

     

    Sunday

    15/04/12

    4372

    9,05%

    -62,95%

     

    Monday

    16/04/12

    4006

    13,20%

    -66,05%

     

    Tuesday

    17/04/12

    3827

    14,96%

    -67,57%

     

    Wednesday

    18/04/12

    3904

    15,81%

    -66,92%

     

    Thursday

    19/04/12

    3794

    -4,89%

    -67,85%

     

    Friday

    20/04/12

    3652

    -4,80%

    -69,05%

     

    Saturday

    21/04/12

    3699

    -12,20%

    -68,65%

     

    Sunday

    22/04/12

    3840

    -12,17%

    -67,46%

     

    Monday

    23/04/12

    3434

    -14,28%

    -70,90%

     

    Tuesday

    24/04/12

    3179

    -16,93%

    -73,06%

    lowest ever

    Wednesday

    25/04/12

    3184

    -18,44%

    -73,02%

     

    Thursday

    26/04/12

    3217

    -15,21%

    -72,74%

     

     

     

    If peak users represented 1.7 million subs, would you say that this current reduction in activity would indicate (not prove) that there are only around 400k subs left in swtor?

    That's  a little too simple, at the start more would play daily etc, whatever the level it is stabilising now though. For numbers we need to  wait for EA to present.

  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    snip

    If peak users represented 1.7 million subs, would you say that this current reduction in activity would indicate (not prove) that there are only around 400k subs left in swtor?

    That's a little too simple, at the start more would play daily etc, whatever the level it is stabilising now though. For numbers we need to wait for EA to present.

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    As RefMinor says it isn't that simple.

    If it was then yes - but you would have to add "with a margin of error of +/- X%" And comparing what EA have sort of said (mot easy given the wooly nature of their comments) to what XFire showed then +/-20% as a minimum.

    But RefMinor is totally correct. This is not a group of XFire users who started playing SWTOR back in December and have gradually left. Some will have started in December, some in January, some in February, some in March on a trial and so on. We have to assume that we have a shifting population.

    And the easiest way to do account for this is to make your margin of error bigger; +/- 200k maybe! We simply don't know, or claim to know, how good, the data is. It doesn't appear to be "bad" however. 

     

     

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452
    Ouch, 2958 on a Friday, looks like the first Salem beta weekend is having an effect, I can't think of any other game recently out that could have such an effect.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,888

    Originally posted by RefMinor

    Ouch, 2958 on a Friday, looks like the first Salem beta weekend is having an effect, I can't think of any other game recently out that could have such an effect.

    TERA EU headstart launched on Friday.

     
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919

    Probably a combination of things. We know from what EA reported that people bought the game in the Christmas to New Year period and that sales continued into January. People who opted for the 3 month sub will have been progressively coming up to their renew or terminate point - and probably terminated in anticipation of EA sending them a come back for free e-mail.

    SW buffs are being bombarded by SW Kinnect I suspect; lots of advertising and promotions - same worldwide maybe?

    TERA yes for mmo leaning folk maybe; EQ1 went f2p as well. However as a "story driven game" lasting 3 days or a couple of months there are lots options out there that will compete with it; not just mmos. 

    The question now: is there a floor for SWTOR? And will EA change there business model?

    The decision to run the 7 and 30 day promotions must have been taken with senior - and I suspect EA senior management not just Bioware management - involvement because of the message it sends. And EA must have been able to see the drop coming. Just a case of how bad is it?

  • ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,063

    Originally posted by Kaocan

    Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

    After this weekend's fiasco I'm not sure if the GW2 fanboys want that to be displayed on a graph.

    Currently Playing: World of Warcraft

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452

    Originally posted by Kaocan

    Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

    814

    http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

     

  • ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,063

    Originally posted by RefMinor

    Originally posted by Kaocan

    Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

    814

    http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

     

    Wow. The news just keeps getting better for god's gift to the MMO world.

    Currently Playing: World of Warcraft

  • Blackwater56Blackwater56 Member Posts: 122

    Originally posted by ktanner3

    Originally posted by RefMinor

    Originally posted by Kaocan

    Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

    814

    http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

     

    Wow. The news just keeps getting better for god's gift to the MMO world.

    It was a limited beta weekend. But I think it's really cute that you're trying equate beta numbers as people who are going to buy the game.

    Also, quit trying to deflect the fact that SWTORs numbers are at an all time low.

  • ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,063

    Originally posted by Blackwater56

    Originally posted by ktanner3

    Originally posted by RefMinor

    Originally posted by Kaocan

    Anyone have any stats on X-Fire yet for GW2?

    814

    http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2

     

    Wow. The news just keeps getting better for god's gift to the MMO world.

    It was a limited beta weekend. But I think it's really cute that you're trying equate beta numbers as people who are going to buy the game.

    I think it's cute that you created your account two days ago to defend your precious game. So I guess we all our own thrills.

    Also, quit trying to deflect the fact that SWTORs numbers are at an all time low.

    I'm not the one that brought GW2 up so don't get mad when some of us express our negative views on it. If you're going to express constant negative views on TOR in the TOR forum, then don't get pissy when we express our views about your precious games. Fair is fair.

     

    Currently Playing: World of Warcraft

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 5,903
    I just want to say thanks for the charts and please keep it up!  Or at least keep tracking the daily numbers in a table or something if that's easier. :)
  • Blackwater56Blackwater56 Member Posts: 122

    Originally posted by ktanner3

    It was a limited beta weekend. But I think it's really cute that you're trying equate beta numbers as people who are going to buy the game.

    I think it's cute that you created your account two days ago to defend your precious game. So I guess we all our own thrills.

    Also, quit trying to deflect the fact that SWTORs numbers are at an all time low.

    I'm not the one that brought GW2 up so don't get mad when some of us express our negative views on it. If you're going to express constant negative views on TOR in the TOR forum, then don't get pissy when we express our views about your precious games. Fair is fair.

     

    lol Oh no I created my account recently!!! You're adorable.

     

    Difference is, I've PLAYED TOR, you haven't played GW2

  • ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,063

    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    I just want to say thanks for the charts and please keep it up!  Or at least keep tracking the daily numbers in a table or something if that's easier. :)

    I agree.

    Currently Playing: World of Warcraft

  • ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,063

    Originally posted by Blackwater56

     

     

    Difference is, I've PLAYED TOR, you haven't played GW2

    And ? I don't need to play GW2 to know that it isn't for me. 

    You might want to save your PR spin for the GW2 forums because right now it's chaos over there.

    Currently Playing: World of Warcraft

  • Blackwater56Blackwater56 Member Posts: 122

    Originally posted by ktanner3

    Originally posted by Blackwater56

     

     

    Difference is, I've PLAYED TOR, you haven't played GW2

    And ? I don't need to play GW2 to know that it isn't for me. 

    You might want to save your PR spin for the GW2 forums because right now it's chaos over there.

    AHAHHAHAHHA. Oh god, I can't breath

  • fadisfadis Member Posts: 469

    2958 on 4/27. 

    Setting records daily... just not the right kind.

    News getting worse and worse...

     

     

  • BigLuvinBigLuvin Member Posts: 11

    Originally posted by ktanner3

    Originally posted by Blackwater56

     

     

    Difference is, I've PLAYED TOR, you haven't played GW2

    And ? I don't need to play GW2 to know that it isn't for me. 

    You might want to save your PR spin for the GW2 forums because right now it's chaos over there.



    It actually looks really fun and it will have something I couldn't get from TOR, massive multiplayer.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 5,903

    I'm pretty shocked that BW hasn't been able to crank out cross server group finders and rated battlegrounds.  I think this game is just another addition to the case study of big MMOs that released incomplete.  And since they don't have them even now, they are totally hosing themselves as once they're added, many of the people that were waiting for that functionality may have latched on to GW2, TERA, D3 or TSW.

     

    This game actually has a solid foundation, but I don't see how they can stop the inevitable loss of susbcribers.  A couple of months ago I figured I'd jump back as soon as they added multiplayer space sim style combat.  I'm not sure that's the case anymore.

     

     

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