Most of those reviews can lick my balls. I'll agree that there are too many "10" reviews as it should be near impossible to get one but the same goes for "0" reviews which are entirely too plentiful and bullshit. It is too hard to deserve a "0" review unless the reviewer just never intended to give the game a fair shake. That and the " It wasn't what was promised me so I won't be subbing" ...really? It is everything Bioware said it would be ...so that dog wont fucking hunt. Just because it is nothing you expected doesn't mean it is nothing like what Bioware declared from the start.
I seriously take user reviews into consideration as long as they seem unbiased, truthful and with no agenda. That goes for all reviews..positive and negative. I can't say i find too much of that on metacritic thats why the user opinions I value most are co-workers,friends and family.Plus my own ability to step around the bullshit when I smell it's overbearing stench.
I will wait for professional reviews. I learned as Amazon customer that private reviews never really help, and more often mislead, because people are to both extremes way too much absorbed in their emotions. It needs a trained and responsible method to review, thank you very much.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I will wait for professional reviews. I learned as Amazon customer that private reviews never really help, and more often mislead, because people are to both extremes way too much absorbed in their emotions. It needs a trained and responsible method to review, thank you very much.
Your best bet is to read the gaming community bloggers and see what they have to say.
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
I find Metacritic's user reviews can be useful. Granted, most of them are spammed as either over-exagerrated 0-1s or 9-10s from haters and fanboys alike, but they tend to balance each other out. There's the occasional reasonably written review that actually outlines the real positives or negatives and gives a realistic view of the game.
It's also great for spotting games that have been overhyped by the critics and media. Take Rage for example, average 79% from critics, 43% from users. Why? Because Rage was terribly overhyped. The reality of the game was that it was too shallow, generic, short, and plagued with technical issues.
Not saying that it's the exact same with SWTOR, but I have a feeling it's largely to do with backlash from all of the over-hyping people have been doing.
If you read the comments, you realise it's just trolls all the way. I read one that said he was level 31 and felt like he was grinding in the game... and the game hasn't been out that long.
Purpose in life is not to gain things, but experience. - Rover64dd
I doubt professional reviews will be anymore trustworthy. Every major release automatically gets high scores from the "professionals" regardless of the merit of the game. Not saying swtor is good or bad, but it's not liek any of these reviews mean anything. The only real way to gauge how good a game is, is to play it yourself or get feedback from people you know/trust imo.
These negative reviews on metacritic are just going to have people who ahte the game saying "players are more trustworthy" and people who hail the game saying that user reviews are useless and to trust professionals. People only like to hear what agrees with their opinion. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is stupid or misinformed.
If you read the comments, you realise it's just trolls all the way. I read one that said he was level 31 and felt like he was grinding in the game... and the game hasn't been out that long.
There are lvl 50's in game lol...
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
I find Metacritic's user reviews are useful. Granted, most of them are spammed as either over-exagerrated 0-1s or 9-10s, but there's the occasional reasonably written review that actually outlines the real positives or negatives.
It's also great for spotting games that have been overhyped. Take Rage for example, average 79% from critics, 43% from users. Why? Because Rage was terribly overhyped. The reality of the game was that it was too shallow, generic, short, and plagued with technical issues.
Not saying that it's the exact same with SWTOR, but I have a feeling it's largely to do with backlash from all of the over-hyping people have been doing.
<--- read my quote.
Come on, no rating under 5 is really justified, nor a 10. That makes 90% of all so called reviews there highly irrelevant IMHO. Rasting SWTOR 10 or 2 or even 0 is just bullcrap, no matter if the game is your pair of shoes. A review has to take all possible customers into account not only your personal preferrence. For example, if you are a sandbox fan, for YOU the game might be 1 or 0, but such a rating would not be a review, as a reviewer has to be a neutral as possible and judge a product from the view of the possible target audience.
Contrary to public opinion here, a REAL review is NOT just "some dudes personal opinion".
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
If you read the comments, you realise it's just trolls all the way. I read one that said he was level 31 and felt like he was grinding in the game... and the game hasn't been out that long.
Actually us early access people have got too level 30 already. It started the 13th for some like myself. But I dont know where the grind comes in.
I have found the best review of a game can be had by myself. I know what I like and dislike in a game not someone on a website. If I really want to know what a game is like I will wait until there is a free trial and then try it for myself. If Iike it I will buy it, if not I won't.
I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.
If you read the comments, you realise it's just trolls all the way. I read one that said he was level 31 and felt like he was grinding in the game... and the game hasn't been out that long.
There are lvl 50's in game lol...
What does that have to do with what he said?
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One of the biggest problems with user reviews is that there are no real guidlines as to what the numbers mean. They mean something different to everyone. I can't imagine giving a game a 1 unless it was somehow broken and wouldn't install/run. To me 2-3 are for bug ridden messes that may have "gamebreaking" bugs for some people, but it is at least playable in its current state. 4-6 are that "average" range 4 being a meh to 6 being "acceptable" 7-8 is a good game, 9 is an excellent game and 10 is a "perfect" game. The problem is that not many people will agree with my criteria, and I won't agree with theirs. At least with a professional review they tell me up front what the grading scale is and what the different levels mean.
You can get a pretty good idea of what a game is like from user reviews, so I always read them.
Nothing beats hands on experience, though.
Except that would entail me actually trusting the users.
One could say the same thing about this forum. That one could just read the posts and make a decision that way.
Very few people read beyond the post/review and think "hmmmm, where is this person coming from?"
When it comes down to people talking about technical issues I tend to listen. if people are overwhelmingly saying a game crashes or has a lot of bugs, etc, then I take notice.
but when it comes time for people to rant/praise a game (or anything for that matter) then I try to take whatever they say with a grain of salt.
Because quite frankly, if I was to listen to the majority of people on the things I like in my life I would never have moved on to content that wasn't in the mainstream.
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I went back and read their reviews of Warhammer AoR, just to see if they neg everything. They actually gave War good reviews, where it mattered, and yes they slagged War's problems too, so I would tend to give their reviews some weight in regards to SWTOR.
This is about what I expected from user reviews.. for critic reviews you will probably see lots of 7 and 8s which I feel is fair... this game is in no way a 2 but also in no way a 10 in my opinion
Originally posted by Elikal Originally posted by Ceridith I find Metacritic's user reviews are useful. Granted, most of them are spammed as either over-exagerrated 0-1s or 9-10s, but there's the occasional reasonably written review that actually outlines the real positives or negatives. It's also great for spotting games that have been overhyped. Take Rage for example, average 79% from critics, 43% from users. Why? Because Rage was terribly overhyped. The reality of the game was that it was too shallow, generic, short, and plagued with technical issues. Not saying that it's the exact same with SWTOR, but I have a feeling it's largely to do with backlash from all of the over-hyping people have been doing. <--- read my quote.
Come on, no rating under 5 is really justified, nor a 10. That makes 90% of all so called reviews there highly irrelevant IMHO. Rasting SWTOR 10 or 2 or even 0 is just bullcrap, no matter if the game is your pair of shoes. A review has to take all possible customers into account not only your personal preferrence. For example, if you are a sandbox fan, for YOU the game might be 1 or 0, but such a rating would not be a review, as a reviewer has to be a neutral as possible and judge a product from the view of the possible target audience. Contrary to public opinion here, a REAL review is NOT just "some dudes personal opinion".
"Some dudes personal opinion" is the target audience though. These are a lot of the potential buyers for SWToR. However, there's really not that many ratings compared to the total audience. The ratings haven't even been open for a day yet...there's thousands of reviews yet to come. Maybe...I don't know how big the self selected audience of MetaCritic actually is. Once we get a lot more reviews and ratings, we'll have a better idea of what's normal and what's an outlier.
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Most of those reviews can lick my balls. I'll agree that there are too many "10" reviews as it should be near impossible to get one but the same goes for "0" reviews which are entirely too plentiful and bullshit. It is too hard to deserve a "0" review unless the reviewer just never intended to give the game a fair shake. That and the " It wasn't what was promised me so I won't be subbing" ...really? It is everything Bioware said it would be ...so that dog wont fucking hunt. Just because it is nothing you expected doesn't mean it is nothing like what Bioware declared from the start.
I seriously take user reviews into consideration as long as they seem unbiased, truthful and with no agenda. That goes for all reviews..positive and negative. I can't say i find too much of that on metacritic thats why the user opinions I value most are co-workers,friends and family.Plus my own ability to step around the bullshit when I smell it's overbearing stench.
I will wait for professional reviews. I learned as Amazon customer that private reviews never really help, and more often mislead, because people are to both extremes way too much absorbed in their emotions. It needs a trained and responsible method to review, thank you very much.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Your best bet is to read the gaming community bloggers and see what they have to say.
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
I think all user-scores are absolutely justified, be it 0 scores or 10/10, and absolutely no matter for what reason they were given.
Most of the negative scores are from people who are too b-hurt about galaxies closing down.
yup i agree, those user reviews means little, there could be a bunch of SW hater or just making a bad name
the best thing is to try it yourself and decide for yourself
So What Now?
User review = useless for both movies and games, as far as I'm concerned.
There's almost always a political agenda behind it.
I find Metacritic's user reviews can be useful. Granted, most of them are spammed as either over-exagerrated 0-1s or 9-10s from haters and fanboys alike, but they tend to balance each other out. There's the occasional reasonably written review that actually outlines the real positives or negatives and gives a realistic view of the game.
It's also great for spotting games that have been overhyped by the critics and media. Take Rage for example, average 79% from critics, 43% from users. Why? Because Rage was terribly overhyped. The reality of the game was that it was too shallow, generic, short, and plagued with technical issues.
Not saying that it's the exact same with SWTOR, but I have a feeling it's largely to do with backlash from all of the over-hyping people have been doing.
<--- read my quote.
If you read the comments, you realise it's just trolls all the way. I read one that said he was level 31 and felt like he was grinding in the game... and the game hasn't been out that long.
Purpose in life is not to gain things, but experience. - Rover64dd
I doubt professional reviews will be anymore trustworthy. Every major release automatically gets high scores from the "professionals" regardless of the merit of the game. Not saying swtor is good or bad, but it's not liek any of these reviews mean anything. The only real way to gauge how good a game is, is to play it yourself or get feedback from people you know/trust imo.
These negative reviews on metacritic are just going to have people who ahte the game saying "players are more trustworthy" and people who hail the game saying that user reviews are useless and to trust professionals. People only like to hear what agrees with their opinion. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is stupid or misinformed.
There are lvl 50's in game lol...
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
So you're telling me that the SWG fanboys outnumber the SWTOR fanboys?
I find that a bit hard to believe.
Come on, no rating under 5 is really justified, nor a 10. That makes 90% of all so called reviews there highly irrelevant IMHO. Rasting SWTOR 10 or 2 or even 0 is just bullcrap, no matter if the game is your pair of shoes. A review has to take all possible customers into account not only your personal preferrence. For example, if you are a sandbox fan, for YOU the game might be 1 or 0, but such a rating would not be a review, as a reviewer has to be a neutral as possible and judge a product from the view of the possible target audience.
Contrary to public opinion here, a REAL review is NOT just "some dudes personal opinion".
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Actually us early access people have got too level 30 already. It started the 13th for some like myself. But I dont know where the grind comes in.
I have found the best review of a game can be had by myself. I know what I like and dislike in a game not someone on a website. If I really want to know what a game is like I will wait until there is a free trial and then try it for myself. If Iike it I will buy it, if not I won't.
I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.
plus, there are a bunch of 0 and 1 score
even if i am a neutral and hate the game, i will never give this game as low as 0 or 1, at least 5
so you know those who gave it 0, is just troll, i always dont really care about Meta Critics user review
So What Now?
What does that have to do with what he said?
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One of the biggest problems with user reviews is that there are no real guidlines as to what the numbers mean. They mean something different to everyone. I can't imagine giving a game a 1 unless it was somehow broken and wouldn't install/run. To me 2-3 are for bug ridden messes that may have "gamebreaking" bugs for some people, but it is at least playable in its current state. 4-6 are that "average" range 4 being a meh to 6 being "acceptable" 7-8 is a good game, 9 is an excellent game and 10 is a "perfect" game. The problem is that not many people will agree with my criteria, and I won't agree with theirs. At least with a professional review they tell me up front what the grading scale is and what the different levels mean.
Except that would entail me actually trusting the users.
One could say the same thing about this forum. That one could just read the posts and make a decision that way.
Very few people read beyond the post/review and think "hmmmm, where is this person coming from?"
When it comes down to people talking about technical issues I tend to listen. if people are overwhelmingly saying a game crashes or has a lot of bugs, etc, then I take notice.
but when it comes time for people to rant/praise a game (or anything for that matter) then I try to take whatever they say with a grain of salt.
Because quite frankly, if I was to listen to the majority of people on the things I like in my life I would never have moved on to content that wasn't in the mainstream.
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I went back and read their reviews of Warhammer AoR, just to see if they neg everything. They actually gave War good reviews, where it mattered, and yes they slagged War's problems too, so I would tend to give their reviews some weight in regards to SWTOR.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
Funny thing is, when you put all those scores together, its currently at a 4.9 so the score you would give it...
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Contrary to public opinion here, a REAL review is NOT just "some dudes personal opinion".
"Some dudes personal opinion" is the target audience though. These are a lot of the potential buyers for SWToR. However, there's really not that many ratings compared to the total audience. The ratings haven't even been open for a day yet...there's thousands of reviews yet to come. Maybe...I don't know how big the self selected audience of MetaCritic actually is. Once we get a lot more reviews and ratings, we'll have a better idea of what's normal and what's an outlier.
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