Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Fuzzy Avatars Solved! Please re-upload your avatar if it was fuzzy!

General: The No Elves Manifesto

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,613MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

With our brand new column here at MMORPG.com, we are reaching out to those of you who are sick and tired of the traditional high fantasy MMO. Judging by a recent study, that means we're talking to a lot of you. Check out "No Elves Allowed" to find out what exactly we're talking about here. Leave us a few of your own thoughts in the comments.

Been there. Done that. Bought the Blood Elf. Can we move on? I can see some of you surreptitiously picking up those pitchforks but I'm going to say it anyway: the genre is over saturated with gnomes. You cannot turn two steps without bumping into a scantily-dressed elf. Throw a stone and chances are you'll nail a passing princess. To abuse a time-worn trope, your personal mileage may vary on the subject matter but personally, I've had enough of fantasy. We have the technology. Let's use it.

Read more of Cassandra Khaw's No Elves Allowed: The No Elves Manifesto.


image

Associate Editor: MMORPG.com
Follow me on Twitter: @MMORPGMom

image
«1345678

Comments

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member

    Although I'm not real sure what all the rambling was about in the last 3/4 of this article, I support the "No Elves" movement.

     

     

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • SkillCosbySkillCosby Trenton, MIPosts: 684Member

    I don't mind elves. What I do mind, however, are the constant WoW-clones and their linear/simplistic mindset.

    Seriously. Battlegrounds? Redundant Raids? Linear Progression?

    Mankind has landed on the moon. Do you mean to tell me that this is all we are capable of within the MMO realm?

  • elockeelocke Manassas, VAPosts: 4,205Member Uncommon

    I find this article "racist" ;D

    I kid, I kid.  I don't hate elves or fantasy, BUT I am ready for more diversity in my game choices.  Hence why The Secret World looks nice and juicy and games like Prime and that post apocalyptic game that I can never remember the name of, Repatriation or whatever it's called.

    image
  • xaritscinxaritscin CaliPosts: 349Member

    i think you're talking about "The Repopulation"......

    and about the topic, i think having the traditional races isnt bad, the problem is when they try to copy and copy the same background....

    wood elves, dark elves, blood elves, high elves, night elves......

    C'mon, elves can be more than just beautifull people who hugs trees or lives inside caves and enjoy the night........pff there's so many concepts....

  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Lancaster, UKPosts: 2,141Member Uncommon

    TLDR...  but I'm ready for a non-elf MMO to come along and blow my mind, or my socks off... whichever.

  • SamhaelSamhael Huntsville, ALPosts: 697Member Uncommon

    Sacrilege! The FSM doesn't need a space ship! How dare you!

  • Methos12Methos12 Maladis 46Posts: 1,234Member Uncommon

    I don't know what author was on when he wrote this, but I wouldn't say no to some of it.

    Nature without Technology is little more than animals running about.
    Nature without Magic is without wonder or miracle.
    .........
    Magic without Technology is fantasy.
    Magic without Nature is formless and useless.
    .........
    Technology without Nature is application without understanding.
    Technology without Magic is repetitious and uninventive.
  • illyanyaillyanya morganton, NCPosts: 6Member

    i dont support it one bit since i am an elf and all you haters out there need to get with reallity and see. considering most nerds and gamers fall under the three demographics or races. your either a boring peace loving yet war starting human, a hyper nerd with ego issues aka elf, or your someone that like building stuf are short and enjoys mayhem thus gnome or dwarf.

  • AldersAlders Jack Burton'sPosts: 1,857Member Uncommon

    Elves don't bother me, as long as certain names and variants of those names, are automatically rejected.

  • drowelfdrowelf phenix city, ALPosts: 104Member

    sure and get rid of fighters, mages. tanks, dps archers and the rest and play chess, sure why not.

     

  • RohnRohn Saint Peters, MOPosts: 3,740Member Uncommon

    I've been reading fantasy novels for over 35 years.  I haven't gotten tired of it in that time, so the pittance of time represented by existence of MMOs is barely a blip, and hasn't done anything to damage my interest in the genre.

    Of course, I like other types of games and fiction as well, but I think the little backlash against all things fantasy I've seen over the last couple of years is nothing more than mildly amusing.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • ClerigoClerigo MatosinhosPosts: 400Member Common

    Originally posted by precious328

    I don't mind elves. What I do mind, however, are the constant WoW-clones and their linear/simplistic mindset.

    Seriously. Battlegrounds? Redundant Raids? Linear Progression?

    Mankind has landed on the moon. Do you mean to tell me that this is all we are capable of within the MMO realm?

     

    100% well said.

  • BlasphimBlasphim San Diego, CAPosts: 349Member Common

    Elves don't bother me much...it's the portrayal of a certain type of elf that does. The daisy eating, tree hugging, leaf wearing, glitter skinned elves bother me. If an MMO had some cigar smoking, gun toting, jeans and workboots wearin, smudged up kind of elf, I don't think it'd bother me at all (dear MMO gods, please let some AAA dev pick up the Shadowrun license).

  • TalthanysTalthanys Millersville, MDPosts: 458Member

    Elves, as a concept, are fine. It is the lack of variety in their depictions that are the problem. Culture, physiology, attunement to magic...these are the things that change very little between games/literature within the fantasy genre.

    Think Poison Elves. Feral elves. Human-hating, blood-drinking savages standing at a towering 8 feet tall with the strength of ten men wielding weapons made out of the bodies of the last village they razed to the ground.

    image

  • casskhawcasskhaw Richmond HillsPosts: 19Member

    @methos12 She! Not he! And blame it on far too much coffee. 

    Also, in general, this would probably make far more sense if I had remembered to link to the corresponding games. That said, I totally recommend checking out Die2nite. It's a pretty nifty game: http://www.die2nite.com/

  • Dren_UtogiDren_Utogi OuterSpacePosts: 1,713Member Uncommon

    keep making decision or assumption like this and you will find youself with narrow veiwpoint on what a world could be in a mmorpg. The one thing about an mmo, it should never be defined, that is up to the player.  The first step of building an real mmo is character creation. IT has to be limitless. Once you got that done, start on the game world. Call me in 10 years and I will guide you the rest of the way.

    reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  • casskhawcasskhaw Richmond HillsPosts: 19Member

    Originally posted by Blasphim

    Elves don't bother me much...it's the portrayal of a certain type of elf that does. The daisy eating, tree hugging, leaf wearing, glitter skinned elves bother me. If an MMO had some cigar smoking, gun toting, jeans and workboots wearin, smudged up kind of elf, I don't think it'd bother me at all (dear MMO gods, please let some AAA dev pick up the Shadowrun license).


     

    All sorts of YES. 

  • VesaviusVesavius BristolPosts: 7,643Member Uncommon

    I bet his first proper piece is about SWTOR, and that it is gushing and coincides with that launch.

  • casskhawcasskhaw Richmond HillsPosts: 19Member

    Originally posted by vesavius

    I bet his first proper piece is about SWTOR, and that it is gushing and coincides with that launch.




     

     

    .. actually, it's a toss-up between Fallen Earth and Shin Megami Tenshei Online


  • VesaviusVesavius BristolPosts: 7,643Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by casskhaw



    Originally posted by vesavius

    I bet his first proper piece is about SWTOR, and that it is gushing and coincides with that launch.

    .. actually, it's a toss-up between Fallen Earth and Shin Megami Tenshei Online

     

    Excellent. If you can stay clear of SWTOR for at least 6 months I would be very grateful... just sick to the hind teeth of that game already.

    If you find your own path, don't follow hype, and talk about the games that are usually pretty ignored I will have nothing but support for your column.

     

    But I still like the odd elf... :)

     

  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebPosts: 5,053Member Uncommon

    Not bad article.

    And while I agree with most. I also think that elves are not to bad. But oversaturation and copy cat buisness practices are what we are all tired off.

    Look at elves in Witcher : Agressive militant terrorists, bent on suicide killing of any human they find.

    Thats quite original. Why not...

     

     

     

    image

  • casskhawcasskhaw Richmond HillsPosts: 19Member

    Originally posted by vesavius

    Originally posted by casskhaw




    Originally posted by vesavius

    I bet his first proper piece is about SWTOR, and that it is gushing and coincides with that launch.

    .. actually, it's a toss-up between Fallen Earth and Shin Megami Tenshei Online

     

    Excellent. If you can stay clear of SWTOR for at least 6 months I would be very grateful... just sick to the hind teeth of that game already.

    If you find your own path, don't follow hype, and talk about the games that are usually pretty ignored I will have nothing but support for your column.

     


     

    Ha ha. I can totally get behind that. My main writing gig involves indie games so you can imagine how all that has shaped my tastes. 

    I also take suggestions! :D Open call for people to suggest underappreciated titles that need to be prodded at.

     

  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 dublinPosts: 2,735Member

    So blue humanoids are better than elves and orcs?

  • casskhawcasskhaw Richmond HillsPosts: 19Member

    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Not bad article.

    And while I agree with most. I also think that elves are not to bad. But oversaturation and copy cat buisness practices are what we are all tired off.

    Look at elves in Witcher : Agressive militant terrorists, bent on suicide killing of any human they find.

    Thats quite original. Why not...

     

     

     




     

     

    Don't get me wrong. I could still stomach elves if they're presented properly. The elves I'm ranting about are the pretty ones you always see in MMOs. I can not name the last MMO that did not feature elves that were NOT willowly, inhumanly good-looking and ... yeah, you know what I'm talking about. 

  • Micro_angelMicro_angel MadridPosts: 87Member

    Remember, no elves means you will not kill elves in your favourite mmo, and thats very sad.

«1345678
Sign In or Register to comment.