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World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria Talent Calculator Debuts
SBFord
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The World of Warcraft community site has been updated with a new talent calculator that will allow players to preview various builds once Mists of Pandaria debuts. The calculator comes with the caveat that "spells and talents are not final and may change during the development process." That said, the dev team is asking players to try out the calculator and give feedback to the team.
Check it out at the links above.
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Kind of curious what this will all mean in regard to Glyphs.
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anyone else see this talent calculator and want to throw up a little
For the most part, that was kind of my reaction when seeing it over on WoWhead. I was amazed at all the hatred taking place over the Pandarens when this was sitting there.
It's kind of funny how some of the talent choices make almost no sense depending on your spec. Will be interesting to see how this gets tweaked over time... if for nothing else but the giggles.
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Not really. All it looks like they did was turn talent choices into the equivelant of pen and paper feat choices. What good were the current way of doing talents anyway when there really were only one or two "right" ways of speccing a tree anyway? There was no choice. There was just the illusion of choice. This way it looks like you actually have a choice, because for the most part there aren't must have talents in the new setup. There are exceptions, but very few,
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Not everybody does the same thing at endgame... it was more than just an illusion of choice.
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Lame. As they have it setup in the calculator, fire speced mages can no longer have both Fire breath and Blast Wave. Seems that if they are making us choose like this, it will be blizzards downfall.
Yes,
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Not everybody does the same thing at endgame... it was more than just an illusion of choice.
The people not doing the cookie cutter builds for dungeons, raids, battlegrounds or arenas were a tiny group of people. The vast majority of people figured out what they were going to do, found the spec that worked and then went with it. There were very few actual choices. The throw away points are called 'throw away' points for a reason.
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Wow the blood Dk is being gutted in regards to their self-healing and many damage mitigation abilities.
Very underwhelmed by the warlock talents, seriously disappointed. Bliz may try to say this will give us more choice in the end but the fact is they only did this because of the balance issues caused by adding another class.
Just to give an example of the new "choices": a level 45 hunter can choose between 3 talents that are tied to Disengage. As a BM hunter, I never once used Disengage. Not. Once.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
Wow... I couldn't have had a more 180 reaction. I just read through the Warlock changes and I really can't wait. Most of the changes I've looked through so far seem to be a big improve besides Pally. Wasn't too impressed there. But overall, I think it's moving an a really great direction.
Not really since Blizzard invented the talent tree system for mmorpgs in the first place. It's first realization was in Diablo. They took a system they worked with and applied it to their mmorpg. So I have no problem when they take something of their own and reinvent it. As far as how it works, I will save that judgement until I've had a chance to sample it.
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How many subs has WoW lost since Cata...?
I literally quit about a week after buying Cata because of the changes to the talent trees made with that expansion.
When I quit, I had a single 85 Warlock, an 80 DK - Pally - Shammy - Warrior, a 75 Priest, 72 Hunter, another DK level 70, 62 Druid, 47 Mage, and another Pally level 28...plus a bunch of 20 and below toons.
I didn't cookie cutter on any of them. I could not even guess how many thousands upon thousands upon thousands I spent on respecs...because I enjoyed playing around with builds.
Cata drove me to RIFT. I played that for around eight months. 50 Mage, Warrior, Cleric, and Rogue...as well as time spent leveling up a horde of alts in the 20-30 range that I deleted to focus on the 50s when R7-8 came out. I only quit RIFT because of the drunken manner in which the devs were creating FotM.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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You never used Disengage? lol? No, wait! Are you serious??
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I was halfway through filliing out a hunter "build" when I said "F**** this!" What a simplified pile of BS! I was on the fence whether I was going to go back to WoW just to check things out, but if this is the dirrection WoW is going, forget it. WoW numbers are dropping, this will only serve as an avalanche for the remaining players, imo.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
Why does the new talent system even need a calculator?
Why would anyone need a talent "calculator" for this? I can write it down and do all the calculations in like 10 sec. It's super easy with the new system.
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Three choices per tier. Six tiers. Some might point to that meaning you have 729 possibilities.
3x3x3x3x3x3...
You're spending 6 points though. It was 41 pts even with the limited 31 before you could hit a second tree with Cata.
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Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
A lot of the talents are meant for PvP or PvE, while others are role specific like tanking/healing... so those 729 possibilies boil down to a number of actual builds that will be mostly chosen to be countable on one hand.
Serious as a heart attack. My pet could easily hold aggro on 3-4 mobs if he needed to, so I rarely ever saw melee combat. Drop a trap or trigger a stun if it came to it. It rarely did. And I didn't PvP after the honor change that took away the old titles, so I didn't need it to float away from the lumbermill or whatever the cool trick was.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
I agree.
Warlocks have it the worst out of all the trees previewed.
But many of us know GC pours himself a fresh glass of Lock Tears each morning to get his day started...
...how long ago did he say that? Warlock tears...nom, nom, nom, nom. Still pisses me off.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Not to mention the fact that warriors are treated like the red headed step-child. Hell, they probably get beat MORE than the step-child!
After perusing the 'trees', I can honestly say that I'll never be going back to WoW. What a fucking joke.
*Spits on Blizzard*