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I won't lie, this guy's words ring of truth, but he is wrong to think it's the only reason. I have often wondered what my life would be like now if I hadn't been introduced to video games at all, and I can only imagine I would have a much better quality of life. At the moment, I spend more time depressed, smoking weed, playing video games, drinking, basically just trying to forget about reality rather than working towards goals, going after women, etc.
Video games usually put you in control of a big, manly dude who can kill just about anything, but it turns many of the people that play them into weak little bitches.
But I have a feeling if it wasn't video games, it would be other things bringing me down.
I know plenty of guys who play video games, stil have great jobs, motivation for the future, etc., and I actually know people who haven't played video games outside of like a few SNES and N64 games back in the day, who have terrible lives and no motivation and most are pretty much alcoholics.
It's not purely video games that are doing this though, it's the times. Men are just brought up differently nowadays. Honesty, video games to a degree are no different than drugs, only they don't fuck with your insides, just the outside.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna grind up my old NES into a fine powder and snort it.
They said this about writing in ink, painting with oils, the printed word, radio, television, any form of entertainment really.
If we haven't managed to die off thanks to thousands of years of drugs, alcohol, and red meat based diets- we're fucking fine.
It's white noise.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
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I myself lost track of time during the dawn of MMO eras. Camping spawns in Everquest for countless hours on end - for what? A virtal gear piece? What I could have been doing those hours watching my monitor...
Bennett makes other points to support his claim that mens productivity is in decline while women are on the rise, but as far as gaming is concerned, it should be a wake up call. Yes we have the freedom to do what we want. those of us on this forum want to play MMOs. However, do we take a step back and look at the forest once in a while? Geez - Im 43, got a wife and kids and Im playing WoW for 5 hours a day and still getting an unemployment check? Really? Blizzard rejected my application so now what?
And before video games it was booze, cigars, and gambling. Face it, we men are natural born slackers. Give us anything more entertaining than what we should be doing and we are on that like white on rice.
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I was pathetic LONG before video games
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"While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways."
Well... i guess we won then
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I like the way you think.
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I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
This was the one aspect of the OP's link that I didn't find an issue with, but that's because I've seen far, far too many cases of terrible parents because they never wanted the role in the first place.
What a crock of s*@t.
I am 38, married, kids, mortgage, ect
Work 2 jobs, graduated college and have been in the workforce since I was 16. My wife is also a college graduate and works full time.
I have been playing games since I was a child and still play games 20+ hours a week.
Maybe if I had a gambling problem, drinking problem and watched network TV 20+ hours a week I would be a real man in his eyes.
Government beaurocrats are the real problem in society today. Not video games.
Having lived the life of a "man", providing for a family of 5 on a single income, I would happily be a kept man, cleaning house and playing video games. I'd even exercise to make myself look pretty good and hold down a part time job to fund my gaming. Good grief, I'd have time to go down to the shooting range and time to learn how to cook something besides steak on the grill.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I am a Derrickhand on a drilling rig in Canada.
We have two crews working the rig, one daytime and one nighttime, more than half of us from both crews combined play video games in our spare time. I'd really like to see the author come out to the site and call any member of either crew pathetic.
I make a very respectable income, am able to support my family easily, and give them what they deserve. It really doesn't matter how I choose to spend my spare time, and it certainly doesn't make me pathetic in any way, shape or form.
Mr. Bennet is right while he is also wrong. He is right that men spend too much time doing wasteful things. What he is wrong about is that men in general do it ONLY playing video games. Many men waste their time in bars or in front of the TV. The difference with video games and just those two other examples is that you can have a much more positive experience with the video games. At the same time, too much of anything is TOO MUCH. If you are playing vid games or going to the bar or watching TV more then 8 hours a day, maybe you need to push yourself away and go outside for a while.
Let's party like it is 1863!
It's ok. Soon all the people like him that think their hobbies are some how better than our new ones will die from old age. Also gamers helping find earth like planets and getting us closer to cure for diseases so FUUU old man!
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Exactly! Gameing is a hobby just like any other. Calling it pathetic or trying to put some kind of blame on it for any of our societies woes is a petty cop out.
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There are few things that need to be addresses. Life partners and childrens are pretty time consuming(at least if they are taken care properly) if not ask young couples. With world population rising and resources getting scarse, it is paradoxical that even the environmentalists people still try to stick everybody into the classic family scheme. If it was a monk lifestyle nobody would object but games are games.
Something I have noticed is that for non-gamers is not even about the time. If a Friday night I would go with friends to dinner-movie-nightclub from 5pm-3am, most people would say I was having fun but if I played during the same time they would tell me I am losing time at home. I did all the juvinile stuff nightclubs, bars, house gathering and all mumble jumbo; in the end they are boring for me from deaf dialogue at the noisy nightclub dancing the same freaking music to the partys with the luminated drunk philosophy discussions of transcendent topics. All my brothers are married and I say No thx, at least not for a while; when I need somebody else who is not paying me telling me how to use my time I would probably try it.
In retrospect games 2-3 decades ago were played mainly by the "nerds" usually ending up being University graduates quite successful. The only thing that actually change is that more people is playing games now from the average population.
Other things people tend to waste time a lot:
1) Tv
2) Text messing/chatting
3) Facebook <--- including farmville
For my conclusions, first, gaming a lot is time consuming and it can hurt other activities, but it is not different from the other hundreds things that distract us everyday. Second, there are more than one way of traveling our lifespan and everybody should choose the want they see fit for them at the right time.
I actually read that article on another site and I have to admit that when I saw that quote I had to laugh.
GOOD!
We need less people getting married and having children "just because". Too many people who are getting married who never should have married and what's the use of having children if in your heart of hearts you don't want them?
My father was never an ambitous man and I'm fairly certain that he never wanted children. After my parents were divorced all he ever wanted to do was watch sports, date women and enjoy himself.
And he actually died a very happy man for pursuing such simple pleasures.
People should get married, have children, persue ambitious careers "if they want to".
But I really dont' view any of that as a measure of success, especially if it's something that one feels pressured to do.
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Try this--
Publish exactly the same article with male and female roles reversed.
Is the first label you receive not going to be "misogynist"?
Welcome to modern Doublethink.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Is it any wonder why people don't want to get married and raise families. Majority of them including myself come from broken homes. I have never seen marriages happy ones at least and most just settle. Any wonder why people don't want this for themselves. I am a woman and I play games though so his overall assessment of women have left out the ones that work and play.
So William have quiet some better job to do rather than write poor article, isn't it?
First he could try to make our society stop putting aside all those "men that don't want to work", and actually give them activities rather than sending them at home anytime they actually try to do something, because of poor salaries and even poorer working benefit. But naturally its so much better to give job to women that you will pay half with shitty poor working contracts with this kind of disgusting agreement in the corner "if you fart during work hour you will be fired". Usually men are a bit proud when they give their time, and they expect some kind of respect in return, something naturally our society is now totally unable to give back unlike post World word 2 generation had.
Second if gaming is such a big deal, help it being a "real" thing, rather a circus of money making monkeys. This mean help the industry grow up and make real products for this range of age. That would be a serious first step, then develop e-sport and everything around this for example. We all know gaming is probably one of the aspect of computer that push the evolution of personal computer, which now seam to push the super computer cluster domain as well, when during long time it clearly was the way around. So take seriously what is to take seriously, rather than making stupid assessment based on your piss poor experience.
Third, if You had such a poor experience of gaming because of addiction and money gambling problems (i personally have close friend with such problems) you sure should try to stop "innocent" computer games turn into an addiction and gambling fest as the industry is heading in today, the head first into the wall. Because of some stupidly greedy guys nobody even look, and even less try to control. If you William, don't know, some gaming companies make millions just using the same mechanisms (addiction and gambling), with computer games, but they do that on kids (8/25 year range), they really don't need to go in casino or play poker today, they just need to play some stupid kid game called "pay to win"; right. SO wake up dude (i talk to the government guys).
Thank you William for your comprehension; i sure hope someone will link you my thoughts, as i'm just trying to bring them at an upper level. Which mean what can you do to make this phenomena better rather than spiting on it a bit stupidly and rudely. And yes i do have a family and need to make some Yoga gymnastic of my life to actually make it happen, and the society in general certainly didn't helped to say the least. Sorry for my bad English i learned it in my d&d books back then when it was watched as the worst addiction crap by the WW2 generation. I guess it was better than poker thought.
To busy this week to play video games but this weekend im going to play 5 hours staruday and sunday as a big fuck you to this idiot.
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Waiting for: WoD
Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO
Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
I agree with you! He's a dinosaur from the past, and high time to go gracefully extinct! Quote from the article "not getting married and not raising families.", so typical of that mind-set that producing kids -is- the meaning of life. Can't say I would seriously expect any more from a "conservative" then simple-minded ideas of what it is to be a man. Or simple-minded ideas about anything for that matter...
Bingo. Alot of people seem to believe that men only exist for utilitarian reasons and for too long men have resighned themselves to that as thier lot in life. Finally it seems this new generation of males are actually looking at the lives there fathers and grandfathers had/have and are saying "No thanks". Many of them have grown up as children of divorce and have seen first hand how horrible it is to put upon children or how badly there parents treated each other and it has left them with a realistic(non-romantic) view of marriage. Women have indeed fought for choices and options for what they want to do with there lives, but it seems that only men are actually held accountable for there choices and even shamed for not choosing to be societies slaves.
Over 90% of workplace deaths are male, and you want men to try harder? Title IX laws and draconian sexual harrasment policies(where the burden of proof is on the accused) in universities and your surprised more men dont have college degrees? 4 out of every 5 suicides are men and you dont think they should do anything for the sake of there own happiness, even if its just playing a harmless video game? 75% of divorces are filed by the female party in a marriage and your shocked that fewer men want to get marrried?
Seriously, get off the soap box and quit shaming the guys. If you want more men to feel its worth it for them to kill themselves for society raising families, then you will need to give us an incentive to make it worth it for us to choose that path. Until then, ill be playing on my pc and working at my low income job making enough money for me to get by and enjoy my free time how i please.
Bravo.
I'm female (not that it matters) and think that was bold, honest, and noble.
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Video games, role-playing games, rock and roll, television, books ... the list of corrupting influences is endless.
I think there is a valid argument to be made that people who are adrift in their adult lives can spiral towards entertainment rather than personal development (been there, done that), But I feel that if you are going to criticise a person's level of motivation, it is your responsibility to offer better hooks and motivators, not to simply denounce what they are doing instead of what you want.
Oh I've seen some very happy long term marriages and some great families. But they are a bit rare. I think that it's good for people to assess their lives and realize that they dont' have to follow some preset course in order to find happiness.
However, one can find happiness in many traditional pursuits. They just have to be doing them because these things are inherently a part of who they are.
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