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Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes: The Perfect Bite-sized WAR

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,583MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

During PAX, MMORPG.com's Carolyn Koh had the opportunity to check out the just-announced Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes, a new MOBA based on the Warhammer IP. Carolyn's got the full report on Wrath of Heroes that you won't want to miss. Read on!

Here’s the thing that makes Wrath of Heroes different though… it doesn’t play like an RTS, it plays like an MMORPG.

The best way to put it is that who is essentially the bite-sized nuggets of awesome know as Scenarios, pared down into MOBA form. The combat’s been upped a notch, made more frenetic and there are specific characters tied to the familiar WAR classes, each with their own skill-sets and specialties. On top of it all, each match is 6 v 6 v 6… a little DAoC-like combat at long last.

Read more of Carolyn Koh's Wrath of Heroes – The Perfect Bite-sized WAR.


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  • zumoozumoo kingston, NHPosts: 2Member

    This company always jumps on the bandwagon late with a subpar game.

  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 17,949Member Uncommon

    The Bioware-Mythic team brings the Warhammer feel and their own unique blend of styles to the game.

    That is in that case the first time they do that, WAR have close to no Warhammer feel.

  • KostKost Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,975Member

    I don't understand how they're metrics could possibly reveal that the scenario play, one of the features most despised by RvR fans and quite often complained about, was somehow the most popular form of PvP in there game.

    Scenarios were constantly complained about, and the inclusion of them in the game is widely regarded as one of the largest flaws the game has. The 6v6v6 Mode is nothing like DAoC RvR, and nothing they do will ever change that.

    Mythic had it right with DAoC, but it appears those days have passed.


  • KothosesKothoses GalwayPosts: 760Member Uncommon

    Actually I am in the Beta for this and what I can tell you is it feels like the Scenarios SHOULD have been like this.  They really got the fast paced combat right.

     

    The only problem right now is that the three teams dont have any identity beyond colour, I mean when you can have an orc and a dwarf on the same team beating up and elf.... well actually thats great but its not in warhammer lore.

     

    If this were not a warhammer game I would say that when it launches it would prove a huge success but the warhammer IP holds it back if you know what I mean?

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  • DrFragDrFrag Forest Lake, MEPosts: 28Member

    Originally posted by Kost



    I don't understand how they're metrics could possibly reveal that the scenario play, one of the features most despised by RvR fans and quite often complained about, was somehow the most popular form of PvP in there game.

    Scenarios were constantly complained about, and the inclusion of them in the game is widely regarded as one of the largest flaws the game has. The 6v6v6 Mode is nothing like DAoC RvR, and nothing they do will ever change that.

    Mythic had it right with DAoC, but it appears those days have passed.


     

    Amen brother.

  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,471Member Uncommon

    I got the beta invite but haven't installed it.  Anyone confirm if there is a rootkit or not with this?

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by waynejr2
    I got the beta invite but haven't installed it.  Anyone confirm if there is a rootkit or not with this?


    If there was a rootkit installed with the game, wouldn't hiding itself from the user and the system be the first order of business?

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • RudedawgCDNRudedawgCDN Vancouver, BCPosts: 485Member Common

    I hated "scenarios" in Warhammer and it's why I quit the game.

    Hopefully Mythic gets it right, but I won't hold my breath.

  • arctarusarctarus nilPosts: 2,570Member Uncommon

    just let this game die, please.....

    RIP Orc Choppa

  • jakinjakin somewhere, ONPosts: 243Member Common

    This article seems awfully heavy on the rose-coloured glasses.

    It's painfully obvious to anyone who's seen both of EA's Warhammer offerings that Wrath of Heroes is EA's cheap attempt to capitalize on the current popularity of F2P MOBAs using as many assets as possible from an underperforming (yet likely costly) intellectual property.  Same base models, same animations (the vampire is using the warrior priest animations from WAR), same basic engine - trying to bring a product to market with a minimum team and minimum timeline for the sake of cash generation.

    It should be noted that said minimum team includes developers who demonstrated a complete lack of ability when in positions on WAR (Carrie Gouskous was Lead producer through many of the worst patch cycles and Nate Levy was (IMO) completely ineffectual as a Combat and Careers dev).

    This MOBA has very little to do with Warhammer (as noted above) and less to do with DAOC (just including three teams does not make it anything like DAOC's three faction RvR combat).

    It may end up being fun and it may end up being popular, but I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope given it's pedigree and obvious rush-to-market design philosophy.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by arctarus
    just let this game die, please.....


    The problem is that this particular incarnation is fun. More fun than playing the mmo was.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • MumboJumboMumboJumbo LondonPosts: 3,221Member

    Some valid concerns stated above. That said I'm interested:



    • Warhammer IP


    • Moba-Scenarios mix


    • 6v6v6


    • Mythic - can they learn their lessons and draw on their strengths?


    • Enjoyed scenarios in Tier 1 WAR


    Wait & See policy on this one.

  • xpanderxpander TallinnPosts: 13Member

    The Game(WoH) is Epic Fun Imo.

    Only one thing is dissapointing. that there are no factions, just groupds so high elves can group with greenskins for example..thats little bad imo.they should make 3 factions and give each faction same abilities with different names or something to make it balanced.

    a gameplay vid also:

  • JorviasJorvias Palo Alto, CAPosts: 13Member

    I think they stole their motto from the Games Workshop retail demo rule of the four f's... fast, furious, fun, and fours.

    I'm more likely to play this than LoL or Dota, I guess.

    Stormlord Jorvias
    Fryer of Conductive Foes

  • taulutussitaulutussi dPosts: 37Member

    Mehh. At least in other mobas you need to aim certain spells to maximize their effects afaik. This just looks like you spam 5 low cd skills over and over in the middle of the map. 

  • DragonantisDragonantis DublinPosts: 974Member

    I will say one thing about those images.

    "Its not my fault, its that Abe guy!!"

    "Its all that blue...bastards...fault!!!!"

    As for the game, I hope this does well for them XD

  • CyanKCyanK Montgomery, TXPosts: 20Member

    I'm optimistic. The potential alone here will make the game worth a serious look when it launches.

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  • EzequielBEEzequielBE DeurnePosts: 27Member

    Originally posted by zumoo

    This company always jumps on the bandwagon late with a subpar game.


     

     So true. Is the original DAoC team still present even?

  • shantidevashantideva bongholmPosts: 186Member

    Cheap a$$ MONEYGRABBER!

    "Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day!"

  • SkillCosbySkillCosby Trenton, MIPosts: 684Member

    Any instanced or limited pvp is bad pvp.

     

    6v6v6? don't make me laugh at that crap. It's sad that post-WoW players actually accept this garbage. Zero innovation.

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,901Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Kost

    I don't understand how they're metrics could possibly reveal that the scenario play, one of the features most despised by RvR fans and quite often complained about, was somehow the most popular form of PvP in there game.

    Scenarios were constantly complained about, and the inclusion of them in the game is widely regarded as one of the largest flaws the game has. The 6v6v6 Mode is nothing like DAoC RvR, and nothing they do will ever change that.

    Mythic had it right with DAoC, but it appears those days have passed.

    You're making the mistake of judging their metrics, based on what you read through the portal that is your home PC.

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  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 17,949Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by precious328

    Any instanced or limited pvp is bad pvp.

    Not if they add "Bloodbowl"... But I guess they wont, that would actually be fun.

  • RagnarokWarRagnarokWar Huntsville, ALPosts: 35Member Common

    I beta'd this game. From what I've played... DO NOT think of this as a standard MOBA. There is no laning, no feeding, no leveling up your character, no item buying, none of that crap. This game is fast paced, in your face action, and reminded me much more of the Comquest mode from Battlefield: Bad Company 2. It's also very well balanced, the game tends to go to whoever plays as a team.

    This game also doesn't take an hour to play, you won't be poopsocking or getting screamed at for having to AFK in an emergency. Thank the Gods for this, as MOBA communities will SCREAM at you if you decide to AFK to take care of your 2 year old child instead of dorking it up in a lane.

    Honestly, I think you'll all be pleasantly surprised when it comes out. I know I was, especially after the crap I went through with the WAR beta. Honestly, they should just get rid of Scenarios or have RvR-only servers and instead run this along side it. I think that would make both camps fairly happy.

  • VinterkrigVinterkrig BOSTON, MAPosts: 1,672Member

    Originally posted by EzequielBE





    Originally posted by zumoo



    This company always jumps on the bandwagon late with a subpar game.






     



     So true. Is the original DAoC team still present even?


     

     

    No, Mythic's original team is long gone, Mythic isn't Mythic, Mythic is Bioware

  • BizkitNLBizkitNL NetherlandsPosts: 2,280Member Common

    Originally posted by Kost

    I don't understand how they're metrics could possibly reveal that the scenario play, one of the features most despised by RvR fans and quite often complained about, was somehow the most popular form of PvP in there game.

    Scenarios were constantly complained about, and the inclusion of them in the game is widely regarded as one of the largest flaws the game has. The 6v6v6 Mode is nothing like DAoC RvR, and nothing they do will ever change that.

    Mythic had it right with DAoC, but it appears those days have passed.

    Because there's probably more people enjoying scenarios than there are people complaining about them in the forums? It's really not that hard to understand.

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