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Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon

Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

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  • KothosesKothoses GalwayPosts: 758Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

    A long civil war followed by a period of stagnation due to no opposistion?

     

    Or could it just be the fact that when the original trilogy was produced media could not convey the technology at the same level and we just have to suspend our disbelief a little rather than wanting every little inconsistancy explained in depth for us?

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  • thexratedthexrated OuluPosts: 1,368Member Common

    "The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."

  • OSF8759OSF8759 Riverside, CAPosts: 284Member

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

    You've not provided any support for your assertion.

  • raistlinmraistlinm new orleans, LAPosts: 673Member

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

     Any examples of this could help,  I noticed that many of the advancements from the early trilogy exists in the KOTOR timeline but not exactly sure what is supposed to be better about the tech other than the fact that alot of the tech from outside the original trilogy looks more "futuristic" than some of what we got in the first three films.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon

    another question. what makes the Skywalkers so powerful compared to other Jedi knights? I mean, why they so special?

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  • DarkPonyDarkPony RotterdamPosts: 5,566Member
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon

    The prequels were made two decades after the original trilogy?

  • aspekxaspekx Brandon, FLPosts: 2,167Member

    Originally posted by Kothoses

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

    A long civil war followed by a period of stagnation due to no opposistion?

     

    Or could it just be the fact that when the original trilogy was produced media could not convey the technology at the same level and we just have to suspend our disbelief a little rather than wanting every little inconsistancy explained in depth for us?

    this, but for me its because its the Old republic, emphasis on the old. the civil war ripped the Old Republic to shreds, if i remember my lore correctly, and actually threw everyone back, except for the core worlds. then as mentioned above the birth of what should be the New Republic is actually just a continuation of the Old. instead of the devastation causing new growth, it actually was somewhat of a fatal blow that the Republic never recovered from.

    feel free to correct me if ive missed it here.

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  • aspekxaspekx Brandon, FLPosts: 2,167Member

    Originally posted by thexrated

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Republic_Dark_Age

    "The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."

    nice sig. very true.

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  • ThanesThanes St. Augustine, FLPosts: 182Member

    Duh, they have a huge mediaclorian

  • afmartafmart CoimbraPosts: 28Member

    from what i remember from kotor, the tech was almost the same as the movies and almost the same designs for ships and droids (a little less sophisticated), so i dont get where you coming from.

  • whilanwhilan Everett, WAPosts: 3,172Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    another question. what makes the Skywalkers so powerful compared to other Jedi knights? I mean, why they so special?

    Techanically the force is suppose to be a pool like resource, the more jedi/sith pulling from it the less powerful they are. The less there are the more one person can pull from it.

    Like so

    Say the force has a pool of 1,000 points (the more points you have the more powerful you are)

    Now that number doesn't change but say there are 500 sith and 500 jedi

    Each one would get 1 point of the force pool to each. Thus they wouldn't be that strong

    Now lets say we reduce that number by...say a whole lot

    Lets say there are 1 sith and 1 jedi

    Now theres 500 for each of them which means they are more empowered by the force. Thus they are stronger. The more jedi/sith their are the less of the force to go around.

    The reason luke beat the other two is because he trained more and has team members on his side. He almost lost to the emperor if you recall until darth vader pulled a double cross and throw the emperor over the railing.

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,469Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

     No.  It's a video game. 

  • ThanesThanes St. Augustine, FLPosts: 182Member

    Originally posted by whilan

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    another question. what makes the Skywalkers so powerful compared to other Jedi knights? I mean, why they so special?

    Techanically the force is suppose to be a pool like resource, the more jedi/sith pulling from it the less powerful they are. The less there are the more one person can pull from it.

    Like so

    Say the force has a pool of 1,000 points (the more points you have the more powerful you are)

    Now that number doesn't change but say there are 500 sith and 500 jedi

    Each one would get 1 point of the force pool to each. Thus they wouldn't be that strong

    Now lets say we reduce that number by...say a whole lot

    Lets say there are 1 sith and 1 jedi

    Now theres 500 for each of them which means they are more empowered by the force. Thus they are stronger. The more jedi/sith their are the less of the force to go around.

    The reason luke beat the other two is because he trained more and has team members on his side. He almost lost to the emperor if you recall until darth vader pulled a double cross and throw the emperor over the railing.

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  • xS0u1zxxS0u1zx Keswick, ONPosts: 209Member

    Originally posted by waynejr2

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

     No.  It's a video game. 

    Yea cause we all know Star Wars started out as one...    It's called lore, not gameplay.  It's unfortunate you couldn't understand simple words.

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  • raistlinmraistlinm new orleans, LAPosts: 673Member

    Originally posted by Thanes

    Originally posted by whilan

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    another question. what makes the Skywalkers so powerful compared to other Jedi knights? I mean, why they so special?

    Techanically the force is suppose to be a pool like resource, the more jedi/sith pulling from it the less powerful they are. The less there are the more one person can pull from it.

    Like so

    Say the force has a pool of 1,000 points (the more points you have the more powerful you are)

    Now that number doesn't change but say there are 500 sith and 500 jedi

    Each one would get 1 point of the force pool to each. Thus they wouldn't be that strong

    Now lets say we reduce that number by...say a whole lot

    Lets say there are 1 sith and 1 jedi

    Now theres 500 for each of them which means they are more empowered by the force. Thus they are stronger. The more jedi/sith their are the less of the force to go around.

    The reason luke beat the other two is because he trained more and has team members on his side. He almost lost to the emperor if you recall until darth vader pulled a double cross and throw the emperor over the railing.

    That's Highlander, 'There can only be one'

     Highlander might make an awesome pvp game

  • whosaidwhatwhosaidwhat kettering, OHPosts: 35Member

    onsidering that Lucas stole his origibal trilogy from lord of the rings, i.e. the reason why the studios turned him down the first time.  It was to close lotr.  And most of the tech from the original was created by others.  hence tech getting better as time goes backwards.  If you were luckly to see the original interviews with lucas you would be shocked how star wars was originally written. 

    Sad though. One of the greatest IPs in history was really stolen from someone else.

  • xS0u1zxxS0u1zx Keswick, ONPosts: 209Member

    Originally posted by whosaidwhat

    onsidering that Lucas stole his origibal trilogy from lord of the rings, i.e. the reason why the studios turned him down the first time.  It was to close lotr.  And most of the tech from the original was created by others.  hence tech getting better as time goes backwards.  If you were luckly to see the original interviews with lucas you would be shocked how star wars was originally written. 

    Sad though. One of the greatest IPs in history was really stolen from someone else.

    Sounds like most of the greatest things in history ever discovered...     There's a few things in this world that were uniquely discovered by one person, most are ideas stolen from others or twisted and manipulated into their own grand scheme of things.   

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  • raistlinmraistlinm new orleans, LAPosts: 673Member

    Originally posted by whosaidwhat

    onsidering that Lucas stole his origibal trilogy from lord of the rings, i.e. the reason why the studios turned him down the first time.  It was to close lotr.  And most of the tech from the original was created by others.  hence tech getting better as time goes backwards.  If you were luckly to see the original interviews with lucas you would be shocked how star wars was originally written. 

    Sad though. One of the greatest IPs in history was really stolen from someone else.

     One of the greatest ip's in history was inspired by another as the law tends to dictate if he had "stolen" too much from the lore he would have been sued. 

    My biggest issue with proclamations like this is that I am an artist by trade and the bottom line is artists are inspired by something or someone else does that mean that the artist is stealing from the product/person that inspired them?  No because chances are that person was also inspired by something or someone else that led them to create as well.

  • hermit000hermit000 Truro, NSPosts: 91Member

    I dont recall it ever being said that the force was a finite rsource that was shared equally by all users of it. The skywalkers (and i hate to say this) have a higher metaclorine count and are able to control the force more so than someone who has a lower amount. 

     

    There have been other very powerful force users at times when there were tens of thousands of sith and jedi roaming the galaxy

  • artemisentr4artemisentr4 fresno, CAPosts: 1,431Member Uncommon

    It's because of time travel. The original timeline starts back in 1977. image

     

    Bottom line is that the game is based on fantasy. Fantasy doesn't have to make sense. The facts or lore are whatever the writters want it to be. Just enjoy the 60+ novels of story in the game or don't. No reason to bring reality into a fantasy sci-fi SW game.

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  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 17,934Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

    It is not entirely silly, it have actually happened in history before.

    Egypt is a good example, the pyramids and most of the other impressive stuff is actually really early and the civilization slowly falls from a superpower to a Roman province.

    And look what happened to Europe after Romes fall. You might not know it but a Greek guy actually built a working steam engine 2000 years ago. 2300 years ago did another Greek count the earths diameter (he had it wrong by 500 meters)...

    It have happened before and it might happen again.

  • Methos12Methos12 Maladis 46Posts: 1,234Member Uncommon



    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

    Does it really?

    You can argue some tech was changed (for example, there was a point in SW history when it was decided that powerful computers governing ships weren't as reliable so multiple droids were chosen as an alternative) and that the newly founded Galactic Empire lead by Sidious perhaps fancied substance over style (although you have prosthetics which had clearly advanced in the mean time), especially given the recent events of Clone Wars that lead to its foundation, but did technology really become worse? It still accomplished the same functions, it just didn't look as clean and perhaps lacked the idealized "ye Old Republic" feeling thanks to the lack of warm colors, curves instead of angles and what not.

    And yeah, basically because of limitations present at the time of filming the original trilogy. I don't know.

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  • xS0u1zxxS0u1zx Keswick, ONPosts: 209Member

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Is there a lore reason for why Tech gets worst as the timeline moves into the future?

    It is not entirely silly, it have actually happened in history before.

    Egypt is a good example, the pyramids and most of the other impressive stuff is actually really early and the civilization slowly falls from a superpower to a Roman province.

    And look what happened to Europe after Romes fall. You might not know it but a Greek guy actually built a working steam engine 2000 years ago. 2300 years ago did another Greek count the earths diameter (he had it wrong by 500 meters)...

    It have happened before and it might happen again.

    The difference between then and now is that technology in current days is globally shared.    Back in the ancient times only a very select few people had done wonders and knew the mysteries of science/math.    When they died all of their knowledge was lost.      In current times all knowledge is recorded in great detail, copied and released to billions to share.   Even if there was some sort of technological relapse threat, it would still seem quite impossible unless there was a mass amount of scientist genocide in this world

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  • 4getting20094getting2009 San Diego, CAPosts: 176Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by whosaidwhat

    onsidering that Lucas stole his origibal trilogy from lord of the rings, i.e. the reason why the studios turned him down the first time.  It was to close lotr.  And most of the tech from the original was created by others.  hence tech getting better as time goes backwards.  If you were luckly to see the original interviews with lucas you would be shocked how star wars was originally written. 

    Sad though. One of the greatest IPs in history was really stolen from someone else.

    And Tolkien stole his ideas from Beowulf and Norse myth and they stole their ideas from...and...and..and...

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