If I buy EvE; will someone be so kind to teach me how this game works?

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  • DraronDraron A town in, KYMember Posts: 993

    Originally posted by chrisel


    Originally posted by Draron


    Add me in game. Name's Daron Rostar. I'll give you some ISK and pointers whenever you need it.
    And check your PMs, I'll give you 300 mil if you do decide to sub if you take me up on the offer.

    Thanks. I do not know much about how all this works, but I am very grateful that you are offering me this.

    This shows, again, that the most hardcore MMO's do have the better communities. At least I feel so.

    Hh, one thing I am wondering about; are there any difference for me to install it through Steam or should I use the main site for this? How does you offers with trial etc work if I choose to instsall through Steam? Maybe a bit noobish question, but I never installed MMO's through steam as I prefer the official hompepages for the MMO's instead.

     You can buy it on steam, and use the steam client or download it off the main site. Whichever way, the trial invite still works.

  • chriselchrisel HuttiheitaMember UncommonPosts: 990

    Great feedback here has convinced me to install the game. I really like the way you all are describing it. I am though a "fast paced action fanboi" but I am more than willing to dig a bit deeper into this mysterious world you talk about.

    Ever since I played the first PC games that included roaming the universe I have been dreaming of such a game. I really do belive EvE could be my virtual home. Regarding the ganking & killing; I come from DFO, I think I will be able to deal with the kills in EvE. Especially considering that I can assure stuff before I head out, which minmizes the loss. Beside; whats the thrill if theres nothing to loose?

    I am as we speak, testing out a themepark MMO, and I suddenly felt so outgrown of it; havent played any since I left DFO. I really need a change both in setting and change in what games offer to challenge.

    Again thanks. And please, keep feeding me more; The more I read the more I crave for this game!

     

    Edit; typos & bad english.

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  • MalcanisMalcanis LondonMember UncommonPosts: 3,294

    Originally posted by chrisel


    Originally posted by Zoobi


    I think the character comes as-is. No refinement is possible. I reckon your best course of action would be to join a decent corp, then buy a toon as they'll be able to advise you and what to look for in an off-the-shelf-toon. This will, of course, take some time investment as well as RL cash and research on your part :-)

    Thanks. Will look into this part then.

    Any other good advice for me, as I am aiming purely for PvP?

     

    Zoobi's advice isn't really that good. Although skillpoints are useful and good to have, the first requirement of being "a PvPer" in EVE is that you know what you're doing. To cut it down, this means buying a lot of ships, flying around and getting in fights. Inevitably, you're going to lose most of them early on (the idea being, each time you lose, you learn something). It's way better to do this learning in cheap disposable ships with a character who doesn't have much to lose.

    Additionally, if you want someone to spend a considerable amount of time (and it will take a long time) helping you, then you're pretty much looking at joining a corp. There are corps which are run by little Napoleons, but there are also relaxed, friendly corps as well. Finding the corp that suits you is really your "first quest" in EVE. Allow me to recommend that you investigate Suddenly Ninjas (TEARS). They're fairly relaxed, PvP focused, based in hi-sec space, and they seem to have a pretty good time.

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  • MalcanisMalcanis LondonMember UncommonPosts: 3,294

    Originally posted by chrisel



    This shows, again, that the most hardcore MMO's do have the better communities. At least I feel so.

    In general, I have found it so. Of course, this wont stop anybody shooting you in game, but if you play up and show good attitude, the guy who killed you will often explain what you did wrong, how you could have done better, etc.

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 10,888


    Originally posted by chrisel
    Originally posted by Zoobi
    I good start would be to buy some Game Time Codes from the eve website. You can then sell these in game for in game cash. Then toodle off to the character bazaar and buy yourself a character with about 20million skilpoints. With the in game cash and new toon-out-of-a-box you can get down to the serious business of having fun (getting blown up).
    Or you can spend 2 years or so skilling up a new toon and really getting to the know the game. Find a helpful corp that'll show teach you how to play while you dream of all those internet spaecships you cant fly yet .. :-)


    First option yes! How much does this cost, and when you say "buy a character", do I still keep my own characters name, or how does this work?

    Oh dear...forget buying a char and selling PLEX for starter ISK, it's stupid advice, especially if you want to PVP.


    More skill points and lots of ISK means an option of losing expensive ships and as a new to the PVP, you will lose a lot so flying anything expensive is pointless.

  • chriselchrisel HuttiheitaMember UncommonPosts: 990

    I take it the ISK is the currency in EvE? Are there any use for me getting myself some ISK? I got some offers to activate trial account for ISK. Seeing all this talk about ISK, does this game support ISK selling in any way? If not, how can I get my pockets filled with ISK from RL cash they days I need it?

    Bare with my newb questions, but the former times I tried the game I never got past the tutorial program. Not that I wanted to, but I felt so cokpletely lost...

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  • NevulusNevulus Miami Beach, FLMember UncommonPosts: 1,288

    Originally posted by chrisel

    I take it the ISK is the currency in EvE? Are there any use for me getting myself some ISK? I got some offers to activate trial account for ISK. Seeing all this talk about ISK, does this game support ISK selling in any way? If not, how can I get my pockets filled with ISK from RL cash they days I need it?
    Bare with my newb questions, but the former times I tried the game I never got past the tutorial program. Not that I wanted to, but I felt so cokpletely lost...

    Yes, isk is the in-game currency.

    People will offer you isk to use their trial invite because if you subscribe, they will get bonus time on their account or a PLEX. This is known as the Buddy Program.

    Plex is Eve Online's innovative way of dealing with isk sellers (gold spammer companies). Basically it is quite ingenious. Players can legally buy a PLEX from Eve Online for real world money ($20 for one, $35 for two, etc etc). You can purchase them in your Account Management section of the Eve Online website. Then you can go ingame and sell the PLEX on the open market. Right now the going price is 400,000,000.00 isk (400 million). Since the game world is a real open free market, prices do vary. Plexes will add 30 days of game time to your account.

    This system allows players to buy isk legally from a controlled environment, like the actual game website, instead of dealing with shadey gold spamming companies. Players can buy Plexes, then resell them ingame. At the same time players who have ways of generating isk can basically play Eve Online for free by just dedicating time every 30 days to make a certain amount of isk.

    It's actually quite cool, so after you play for some time, and figure out how to make fast isk, you can basically enjoy a quality game for free. For example I manufacture and trade items in the open market and make enough isk to sustain two accounts by dedicating an hour a day of playing. Other players run wormholes with their corp, some strictly manufacture, others haul cargo for traders, some ransom other players out in low security space. It is all up to your imagination, the wonders of a real sandbox game.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 10,888


    Originally posted by chrisel
    I take it the ISK is the currency in EvE? Are there any use for me getting myself some ISK? I got some offers to activate trial account for ISK. Seeing all this talk about ISK, does this game support ISK selling in any way? If not, how can I get my pockets filled with ISK from RL cash they days I need it?
    Bare with my newb questions, but the former times I tried the game I never got past the tutorial program. Not that I wanted to, but I felt so cokpletely lost...

    Yes, ISK is EVE Online virtual currency.

    Because EVE Online has truly developed economy system, money management is important part, not to say key part, of your operations.

    Remember that everything in EVE are just tools and resources and it is up to you how you will utilize them. Tools(like ships and modules) can do different things and come at different price. It is up to you to pick the right tool for intended task and resources avaiable.

    ie. if you want to start PVPing, it is better to fly smaller, easily replaceable ships that are cheap rather than flying expensive, large ships that require way more skill points to be able to fly them effectively.


    As for ISK selling, there is no RMT or cash shop. What you can do though, is to purchase a Game Time Code and convert it to in-game item that you can trade with other players. That way you can pay your subscription with in-game money.


  • RagemasterRagemaster Rochester Hills, MIMember Posts: 131

    I highly recommend joining EVE university... they are a training corp whos entier purpose is to prepare new players for the road ahead in EVE. Joining EVE UNI would be a great starting point for any new player looking to get intoi the game.,

  • NaqajNaqaj Frankfurt am MainMember UncommonPosts: 1,673

    You said earlier that one of the things you're looking is fast action. For all of EVEs greatness, fast action is not a particlular strength of the game.

    While I thoroughly recommend to spend some more time to get a better idea of EVE, if action is what you're looking for, you might want to take a peek at Dark Prophecy as well.

  • chriselchrisel HuttiheitaMember UncommonPosts: 990

    Originally posted by Naqaj

    You said earlier that one of the things you're looking is fast action. For all of EVEs greatness, fast action is not a particlular strength of the game.
    While I thoroughly recommend to spend some more time to get a better idea of EVE, if action is what you're looking for, you might want to take a peek at Dark Prophecy as well.

    I am well aware that EvE is all but "fast" action. I am very fascinated by EvE and I think I can get "into" this game despite this "flaw". Well, at least I hope. Thanks for the tip about Dark Prophecy, will look into it!

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 10,888


    Originally posted by chrisel

    Originally posted by Naqaj
    You said earlier that one of the things you're looking is fast action. For all of EVEs greatness, fast action is not a particlular strength of the game.
    While I thoroughly recommend to spend some more time to get a better idea of EVE, if action is what you're looking for, you might want to take a peek at Dark Prophecy as well.
    I am well aware that EvE is all but "fast" action. I am very fascinated by EvE and I think I can get "into" this game despite this "flaw". Well, at least I hope. Thanks for the tip about Dark Prophecy, will look into it!

    That's a misconception.

    EVE can and with smaller ships it is 'fast'. It is not twitch though.

  • NaqajNaqaj Frankfurt am MainMember UncommonPosts: 1,673

    Originally posted by Gdemami



    That's a misconception.
    EVE can and with smaller ships it is 'fast'. It is not twitch though.

    Fair point. Once you're in a fight, it can be fast.

    I understood the OP to mean action as in "direct control, dogfight style" combat. Maybe a misinterpretation on my side.

  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,668

    Here's a link to a pretty good game guide, ISK 3.0, which you can either buy if you like a hard copy, or download a PDF version for free. (or just use the on-line version)  Will help answer a lot of your basic new player questions and has some decent story telling mixed in.

    http://www.isktheguide.com/

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  • chriselchrisel HuttiheitaMember UncommonPosts: 990

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Here's a link to a pretty good game guide, ISK 3.0, which you can either buy if you like a hard copy, or download a PDF version for free. (or just use the on-line version)  Will help answer a lot of your basic new player questions and has some decent story telling mixed in.
    http://www.isktheguide.com/

    Thanks for teh guide! Man EvE is overwhelming, but I am not giving up. My main problem is to find the pirates I am sendt out to kill for my agent.

    First I find it VERY hard to find them Pirates, then I use like 10-15 minutes to kill them. An some of them are so powerful they nearly 3 shot me...

    What am I doing wrong here?

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  • cosycosy ColentinaMember UncommonPosts: 3,228

    Originally posted by chrisel



    What am I doing wrong here?

     

    you dint post the mission name, your ship, your ship fitting and what ammo you use

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  • chriselchrisel HuttiheitaMember UncommonPosts: 990

    Mission is called "Cash flow for capsuleers".

    I have killed the pirates, now I have to find "one unit of  Civilians". I am scanning the solar system and warping to each green field I get up, but unable to find any capsules with civilians. I have been stuck for quite a while with this mission now. thing is that this is a part of the tutorial so I really think skipping this aint very smart of me... Any help?

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  • mrcalhoumrcalhou St. Bernard, LAMember Posts: 1,444

    The civilians will be found in the cargohold of one of the ships that you destroyed. It will be in the "deadspace" area that the mission stuff takes place in.

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  • chriselchrisel HuttiheitaMember UncommonPosts: 990

    Allright! Mission completed and I got me a new ship! Wohoo, things are going better = me happy :)

    Phew, hard to master this game, but the more satisfactory I feel when I overcome the obstacles!

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  • KarahandrasKarahandras Sible HedinghamMember UncommonPosts: 1,698

    Originally posted by chrisel

    Mission is called "Cash flow for capsuleers".
    I have killed the pirates, now I have to find "one unit of  Civilians". I am scanning the solar system and warping to each green field I get up, but unable to find any capsules with civilians. I have been stuck for quite a while with this mission now. thing is that this is a part of the tutorial so I really think skipping this aint very smart of me... Any help?

    I think the civilians are likely to drop in a canister when you kill one of the pirates.  Cash flow is a series of missions if i remember.

    If it's gone wrong u could try filing a petition from the help menu and see if u can get it reset. 

    Also don't forget the rookie help chat window if u need to ask ingame.

  • NeikoNeiko ..., TXMember UncommonPosts: 626

    I already posted this in your other thread, but it seems you were having some trouble in this thread about missions. Not sure if anyone recommended this site to you, but I used it all the time. Great stuff, it shows what to tank/what to deal, steps of the mission, what ships do what in the mission, and some actually have videos.

    http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports

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  • cosycosy ColentinaMember UncommonPosts: 3,228

    Originally posted by chrisel

    Mission is called "Cash flow for capsuleers".
     

    and your ship and the fit is ?

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  • NoriSarelNoriSarel Milwaukee, WIMember Posts: 14

    Hey Chrisel. Just want to reiterate what some people posted about not trusting anyone. This is a open PVP game and a lot of people are jerks. A lot of people are awesome too however, you just need to be careful. I'm guessing you are getting a 21 day trial, so just have fun and don't give your referral to just anyone sending you PMs. Make sure to get something out of it because a PLEX is worth a lot of money... Anywho, if you want, add me to your contact list. I'm not the most experienced player, but I've been around the block and can help you out (plus I'm a really nice guy  image)

    Novgond Galathil

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