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ericbelserericbelser buffalo, NYMember Posts: 783

Well, sadly at this point I have to say that I and my five friends playing this are going to be letting our subs run out.

The launch was great, the game is stable and playable....there just isn't enough to do. Having only 3 pvp areas and only 9 controllable bases in them is just too small for any real population; it's too hard to operate in the higher tier areas unless you are in one of the big corps and there just isn't enough to do outside of those areas. It's like EVE if there were only 3 null sec systems....

We'll be checking back periodically to see if they have expanded it, but for now it just doesn't offer enough long term to be worth it.

 

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAMember Posts: 10,910 Common

    I know one thing they are adding is landscaping...building up walls around your terminal and such. It's technically in the game now, but there's no user interface the players can access.

    I have heard that players will be able to build things (terminals? gun towers? ??) on the landscape, but I have never seen a time line or an estimated time of arrival for that feature. That would be the cool one to look out for.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member Posts: 10,028 Rare


    Originally posted by ericbelser

    Having only 3 pvp areas and only 9 controllable bases in them is just too small for any real population; it's too hard to operate in the higher tier areas unless you are in one of the big corps and there just isn't enough to do outside of those areas. It's like EVE if there were only 3 null sec systems....
     

    Having larger world isn't curing anything, it will just delay the issue.

    EVE suffers the same.

  • ericbelserericbelser buffalo, NYMember Posts: 783

    Originally posted by Gdemami
    Having larger world isn't curing anything, it will just delay the issue.
    EVE suffers the same.

    I'd disagree in part; the larger world doesn't "cure" the problem of boring and limited PvE but it does make it much less a problem. I played EVE in a small corp that had a great deal of fun in PvP simply because the "big boys" cannot be *everyehere* in EVE; yeah you get squished every now and again but the rest of the time you can have fun.

    Perpetuum atm is just too small and access to the PvP areas is too easy to camp with relatively small numbers.

  • crunchyblackcrunchyblack northbook, ILMember Posts: 1,362

    Were you looking for the typical AAA mmorpg launch?

     

    Huge and massive world filled with themepark linear quest line content gaps and chaluk full of bugs?

    Or promised game systems that are not even close to being implimented?

    A paid "launch" for what really is a beta or alpha?

    An expensive box set and over price monthly sub for said alhpa stage?

    Completely changing the direction of the game and its systems months into the launch?

     

    If you wanted to follow the crowd, you have looked in the wrong place.  

  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Leland, NCMember Posts: 3,275

    Originally posted by crunchyblack

    Were you looking for the typical AAA mmorpg launch?
     
    Huge and massive world filled with themepark linear quest line content gaps and chaluk full of bugs?
    Or promised game systems that are not even close to being implimented?
    A paid [object Window]launch[object Window] for what really is a beta or alpha?
    An expensive box set and over price monthly sub for said alhpa stage?
    Completely changing the direction of the game and its systems months into the launch?
     
    If you wanted to follow the crowd, you have looked in the wrong place.  

    Jump to conclusions much?  Did he say he wanted any of that or do you just want to feel superior somehow? Not everyone that makes a post wants to follow the herd but then you have a pack mentality it appears that they must want WOW if they dare say that they want more to do. 

  • ericbelserericbelser buffalo, NYMember Posts: 783

    Originally posted by crunchyblack

    Were you looking for the typical AAA mmorpg launch?
     

    I'd work on your reading comprehension if I were you.

    Perpetuum is a well done game, it is even a great deal of fun for a while. However, the only path to "advancement" it has is the three beta islands and their 9 controllable outposts. My opinion is simply that results in far too little room for anyone who isn't willing to join one of the dominant corps. It is not a game where you can hide or "sneak" past a portal camp. Any bot or mech capable of doing anything worthwhile in a beta zone is not going to "out run" anything once it is spotted.

    ..and no I don't mean as a soloist. The game is fairly hard to solo and that is fine, but in a game which maybe tops out at 500 people logged in, there should be a place for corps with 5, 10, 15 members, other than sitting on an Alpha island knowing that even if all 10 of you go to a beta together, you're dead. 

    The Alpha (pve, pvp by flagging) islands are a very well done tutorial/starter zone but were clearly not intended to be the "main" portion of the game.

    The two things they could do to get me back would be to either add say 6-9 more "beta" style islands off the alphas, preferably with more widely seperated outposts and portals; and add in some randomized missions.

     

  • GdemamiGdemami Member Posts: 10,028 Rare


    Originally posted by ericbelser

    I'd disagree in part;

    What part? You basically said the same I was stating...

  • ericbelserericbelser buffalo, NYMember Posts: 783

    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by ericbelser



    I'd disagree in part;



    What part? You basically said the same I was stating...

    Just that to a degree, postponing a problem IS "curing" it for an MMO; It's not like people play them forever anyways..the appearance of new places to go is one of things that gives EVE such longevity even if all you have to do in the "new" place is the same stuff with slightly different faces.

  • WarbsWarbs ManchesterMember Posts: 245

    Considering to get te very best mech in the game and all extensions it would take over a year of play.....you obviously have not even got near that

  • jairusjairus barrington, NJMember Posts: 170

    Originally posted by Warbs

    Considering to get te very best mech in the game and all extensions it would take over a year of play.....you obviously have not even got near that

    maybe to get all extensions.. but not to get the best mech. people are already using the best mechs for awhile now. but the game is dieing. people are getting bored.. pvp islands are a joke. no one goes there, unless an event is happening. ZZzzzz.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member Posts: 10,028 Rare


    Originally posted by ericbelser
    Just that to a degree, postponing a problem IS "curing" it for an MMO;

    And:


    Originally posted by ericbelser
    the larger world doesn't "cure" the problem of boring and limited PvE

    It isn't curing anything. Period.



    Originally posted by Warbs
    Considering to get te very best mech in the game and all extensions it would take over a year of play.....you obviously have not even got near that

    Heavy mech, every related extension to lvl 8-9 and fitting without use of e-war takes about 6-8 months of EP.

  • EveJunkieEveJunkie LondonMember Posts: 21 Uncommon

    Originally posted by jairus
    people are already using the best mechs for awhile now

    No one is using the heavy mechs yet. Some are stomping about in standard mechs but they're not the top tier.

  • RuinalRuinal duhMember Posts: 195

    And the beta islands see plenty of action. Just don't go without serious backup and expect to survive.

     

    I'm very sure the devs are perfectly aware the game world needs to be a bit bigger and with more content. If you read their posts, you'll know it is in the works.

  • maxebornmaxeborn VMember Posts: 148

    Originally posted by EveJunkie


    Originally posted by jairus
    people are already using the best mechs for awhile now

    No one is using the heavy mechs yet. Some are stomping about in standard mechs but they're not the top tier.

    ive bought a Seth 4 days ago and am stomping about  in it  too bad the model is so low rez it looks like quake 2 engine behind it. Also  the game is just as repetitive boring and unpolished in a heavy mech as it is in a light bot. infinite rep grind. i am leaving the gameas of today and no you can't have my stuff

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