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POLL: 10 days and counting... Do you think the game will survive?

rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

Just wanted to let everyone know that there is only 10 days left until the launch of Mortal Online.  There is now an official launch timer that has just about 10 days left on it.  I am creating this poll as I want to get everyone's reactions and comments about the launch of this indie PVP game.

http://www.mortalonline.com/MO_portal.php

 

Warning: If your computer monitor is under 1600x900, you will not be able to view the page correctly unless you zoom out of the window.

 

This is a video from today (May 30th) 9 days before launch. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6eerzBJ9_8

 

 

 

This is from a recent video created on May 25th (15 days before launch)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LCe81J6FGo

 

 

Another video of broken AI / mobs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkDYF-v7Ddw

 

 

 

 

The last time a poll was conducted asking what players thought of the open beta, it received very bad score:

 

Edit... Just want to add new polls from the official MO forums:

 

Customers wanting StarVault to change the start date of their subscription at launch (do not want to play a broken game until it is fixed)

 

 

Moderators do not want anyone posting criticism of the release date as SV is going to release a patch that will fix all of the bugs before launch (that is 10 days from now even though most bugs have been in there for months... example - multiple spawning NPCs)

 

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Before you make a judgement, here is a small review of how the closed/open beta has been:

 

Mortal Online Full-Loot Bag Review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3tVXpLyMx8

 

Smashed figurines inside the boxes:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/37987-got-my-full-loot-bag-figurines-smashed.html

 

Customers getting empty loot bags in the mail:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/33879-about-le-boxes-3.html#post764825

 

Fans wanting to support Mortal Online via donations:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/37723-donations-support-sv-mortals-success.html

 

 

Mortal Online developers discussing Alien vs. Predator and emotes:

 

 

Henrik (Starvault CEO) discussing how Mortal Online will not go "carebear" even if the game runs out of funds:

 

 

Sebastian fixing the lag (which still occured months later)

 

Remember the bugged mobs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRn3PvaTwjI

 

 

Guard issues:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/268583/Update-Guard-system-is-still-broken-Guards-execute-animals.html

 

 

StJudas being removed as Community Administrator:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/269183/StJudas-Community-Administrator-rages-against-customer-Update-He-has-quit-the-admin-position-effective-immediately.html



 

Multiple miracle patches that were suppose to fix the desync issue, which never fixed them.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/270793/Miracle-patch-slightly-less-than-miraculous.html

 

Day and Light cycles being client side.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/270824/DayNight-cycles-are-client-side-some-walk-around-in-darkness-while-others-walk-around-in-the-day-time-Bug-or-a-feature.html

 

Multiple NPCs spawning inside of each other:

 

 

Many people asking for refunds but never getting a response from StarVault:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/30129-refund.html#post663191

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/30589-refund.html

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/29532-refund-information-request.html

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/30129-refund.html

 

Moderator explaining how to get a refund (by forcing it through your Credit Card Company)

 

 

Developers and customers argueing in IRC:

 

Starvault never updating customers of release dates, even though they were days from "release"

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/267200/Poll-Will-Mortal-Online-have-a-January-2010-launch-1-day-until-the-end-of-the-month-and-still-no-update-from-Starvault.html

 

Many people comparing Mortal Online to Dark and Light:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/266985/Mourning-Dark-Light-and-now-Mortal-Online.html

 

MMORPG.com creating article to combat the hardcore fans:

http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/3949

 

Blizzard CEO calls shipping an unfinished product, 'devastating'

http://www.massively.com/2010/01/19/blizzard-ceo-calls-shipping-an-unfinished-product-devastating/

 

Starvault conducting Stress Tests but never telling anyone about it, until 1 day before and then saying it was a "success" even though not many people were involved with it.

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/30271-stress-test-next-patch.html

 

Fans willing to pay up to $50 a month for their subscription:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/28630-if-your-mad-na-paying-less-monthly-than-eu-read.html#post635208

 

Friday night with the Devs:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/28035-friday-evening.html

 

Mortal Online fans spreading rumors.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/274621/MO-fans-start-spreading-rumors-and-lies-say-I-work-for-Xsyon-getting-paid-to-bash-MO-and-say-that-MikeB-mmorpgcom-community-manager-is-helping-me-do-it.html

 

Broken theiving system:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/35168-god-damn-thieves.html

 

StarVault planning on charging people monthly subscriptions when they had never signed up for it in the first place (still no official response to this one)

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/274869/Unethical-behavior.html

 

Fans saying all promised features are in the game, and it is ready to launch (even though the desync issue was still happening at the time of the person posting back in March) :

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/38072-lower-sub-fee-if-game-not-ready.html#post784032

 

 

StarVault developers releasing night time in the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2DGgs-gAcU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bp3ZFIVnmw

 

 

Developers went on 2 week Christmas vacation after releasing a game breaking patch...

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/263666

Developers responding to criticizm of releasing that game breaking patch before their Christmas vacation.

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/29230-devs-taking-2-weeks-vacation-good-bad-5.html#post648519

 

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I just want to get the general feeling about what will happen after launch...  If you vote, please leave a comment and explain what you voted and why. 

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Comments

  • x2genx2gen n/.a, IAPosts: 9Member

    The ai doesn't do that any more. Its lil buggy yet but floating and warping is fixed. The vid from may 25 is out dated. As early as tommorrow there will be another patch.

  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Leland, NCPosts: 3,275Member

    It has as good a chance as Dawntide or Xyson does.  Its not got the same chance as say DF because DF had better marketing regardless of your feelings about Tacos and its fanbase was much much bigger at the time.

  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Cambridge, OHPosts: 143Member

    This poll is biased and misleading. Those videos are from before the last patch. The mobs are fixed as are numerous bugs.

  • x2genx2gen n/.a, IAPosts: 9Member

    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy

    This poll is biased and misleading. Those videos are from before the last patch. The mobs are fixed as are numerous bugs.

     They are still lil buggy tho. Very aggressive. Somewhat fast and the server thinks they dont get stuck so then you still can be getting hit but the mob is stuck some where. also harvesting is crashing the server atm (I think) well the faster crashing. but we will see what this next patch does.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLPosts: 4,531Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by x2gen

    Somewhat fast and the server thinks they dont get stuck so then you still can be getting hit but the mob is stuck some where. also harvesting is crashing the server atm (I think) well the faster crashing. but we will see what this next patch does.

     Isn't that desync (your client shows a mob in one spot (stuck) and the server shows it in another (next to you attacking)?

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by x2gen


    Somewhat fast and the server thinks they dont get stuck so then you still can be getting hit but the mob is stuck some where. also harvesting is crashing the server atm (I think) well the faster crashing. but we will see what this next patch does.

     Isn't that desync (your client shows a mob in one spot (stuck) and the server shows it in another (next to you attacking)?

     

    Yes, that game is having problems.  It is going to beat Dark and Light by far image

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Originally posted by AllSeeingGuy

    This poll is biased and misleading. Those videos are from before the last patch. The mobs are fixed as are numerous bugs.

     

    I just posted a new video, this is not biased... This is what is actually in the game image

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  • ange10ange10 LondonPosts: 307Member

    the AI can be as messed up as it wants to be, but at release it be fixed why , because this ploblem is a side effect of when the developers tried to fix desync and upgraded the engine and network code.

     

    so bash or praise all you want about the beta, in the end of the day its a beta and mortal online has showned its AI has worked before so please remember that when mortal online kicks all other mmos arses image

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Originally posted by ange10

    the AI can be as messed up as it wants to be, but at release it be fixed why , because this ploblem is a side effect of when the developers tried to fix desync and upgraded the engine and network code.

     

    so bash or praise all you want about the beta, in the end of the day its a beta and mortal online has showned its AI has worked before so please remember that when mortal online kicks all other mmos arses image

     

    You do know that the AI has been bugged for 8+ months now right?  And you really think that Mortal Online can fix AI / mob bugs 10 days before release when during the entire 6 months of the open beta, they would try to fix it but cause more problems? 

     

    If you have followed Mortal Online more than a month, you would realize that they do not have a strategy and most of the "bug fixes" have caused more bugs and more systematic problems...  Please refer back to the previous 13 "miracle patches" and you will see the truth... 

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  • ange10ange10 LondonPosts: 307Member

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by ange10

    the AI can be as messed up as it wants to be, but at release it be fixed why , because this ploblem is a side effect of when the developers tried to fix desync and upgraded the engine and network code.

     

    so bash or praise all you want about the beta, in the end of the day its a beta and mortal online has showned its AI has worked before so please remember that when mortal online kicks all other mmos arses image

     

    You do know that the AI has been bugged for 8+ months now right?  And you really think that Mortal Online can fix AI / mob bugs 10 days before release when during the entire 6 months of the open beta, they would try to fix it but cause more problems? 

     

    If you have followed Mortal Online more than a month, you would realize that they do not have a strategy and most of the "bug fixes" have caused more bugs and more systematic problems...  Please refer back to the previous 13 "miracle patches" and you will see the truth... 

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    what? when was the AI messed up? im sure it was only messed up badly for like 4 weeks due to the developers trying to fix desync and well the AI was working pretty well in the open beta? i think it was only desync issues which is not related to AI or the pathfinding is it?

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Originally posted by ange10

     

    what? when was the AI messed up? im sure it was only messed up badly for like 4 weeks due to the developers trying to fix desync and well the AI was working pretty well in the open beta? i think it was only desync issues which is not related to AI or the pathfinding is it?

     

    Well, I give up.  If you think everything was working great and MO is the best game ever made... well...  I feel sorry for you  image

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Updated the OP of a few polls from the beta part of the MO forums

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Seems they can't get the resolution correct on their site without causing problems for users.  Posted a screen shot of a massively article talking about the resolution. image

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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Kitchener, ONPosts: 1,979Member Uncommon

    I don't think the animals zipping around etc. is desych. . or at least not unintentional desych.  To try ot fix desych before they "greatly reduced the number of packets" being sent from server to client and said that creatures would seem to warp around as they "updated" their location on your clients side.

     

    If they have truly fixed desych then I would hope they could increase the packets back to what they were to prevent the warping.

    Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

  • HanoverZHanoverZ SwanseaPosts: 1,239Member

    Originally posted by Aethaeryn

    I don't think the animals zipping around etc. is desych. . or at least not unintentional desych.  To try ot fix desych before they "greatly reduced the number of packets" being sent from server to client and said that creatures would seem to warp around as they "updated" their location on your clients side.

     

    If they have truly fixed desych then I would hope they could increase the packets back to what they were to prevent the warping.

    There's not enough people in Closed Beta to properly test anything atm. (was another way to limit packets) I hope they have another Open Beta before release to showcase all the "improvements".

    I win!!! LOL@U

  • CrashrollCrashroll TurkuPosts: 60Member

    I didn't really play it much, tried it and maybe got 3-4 hours of in-game time. I really saw the "potential", kinda hate the word...it seems so, overused. But, unless you're blind it's obvious that this game has a lot of effort put into it (doesn't every game?). I really believe that it will survive in some form. Maybe it'll fail now, but some company will buy it, hide the willies and make it free to play. Or maybe SV just loves those dongs too much to let that happen, and rather see the game buried. Would be sad...but that's life!

    Virtual life...

    Not tonight dear...I have a haddock!

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Originally posted by Hunttu

    Maybe it'll fail now, but some company will buy it, hide the willies and make it free to play. Or maybe SV just loves those dongs too much to let that happen, and rather see the game buried. Would be sad...but that's life!

     

     

    True, that does cause them to get less subscriptions in the long run with all the nudity... it seems that they are trying their best to get the game to crash and burn...  they do not have a strategy or they are not using common sense...  image

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  • WazMeisterWazMeister ManchesterPosts: 149Member

    Wow.

     

    The creator of this post must have alot of time on his hands and hatred against MO... What have the developers done to you?

     

    To take tie to do such a detailed post and try slam it with some past evidence.... I give you a medal. Wish I had time to waste like this.

     

     

    Anway, I cant say if it will kick arse or not.. I', gonna try it and well see how it goes.  So far when I tried Open Beta.. first time i hated it.. i then randomly gave it a second chance took my time to learn it and loved it.

     

  • docminusdocminus J.Posts: 717Member

    Well, I do hope for them to survive. Not that I am gonna play, since it didn't turn out as I expected (not thinking of bugs or so), but simply for the fact that we need some diversity in MMOs and MMO developers.

    No matter if you "hate" them (why would you, anyway?), they are only humans who do (try to) do a decent job, so let's keep our thumbs crossed at least.

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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Kitchener, ONPosts: 1,979Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by WazMeister

    Wow.

     

    The creator of this post must have alot of time on his hands and hatred against MO... What have the developers done to you?

     

    To take tie to do such a detailed post and try slam it with some past evidence.... I give you a medal. Wish I had time to waste like this.

     

     

    Anway, I cant say if it will kick arse or not.. I', gonna try it and well see how it goes.  So far when I tried Open Beta.. first time i hated it.. i then randomly gave it a second chance took my time to learn it and loved it.

     

    Yeah I love the game there are just a few things that get in the way. . sort of like watching a great movie where there is one character that is acted horribly.   If they can fix that it is fine.

    Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Took some time to update the OP of the main points of what happened in the closed/open beta.  Time to vote.

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  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Grand Rapids, MIPosts: 647Member

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Took some time to update the OP of the main points of what happened in the closed/open beta.  Time to vote.

    heh, took "some" time?  

    Honestly, no game THAT BAD could interest someone enough to spend THAT MUCH TIME talking about it.

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Raymond, MSPosts: 1,722Member

    Originally posted by funkmastaD

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Took some time to update the OP of the main points of what happened in the closed/open beta.  Time to vote.

    heh, took "some" time?  

    Honestly, no game THAT BAD could interest someone enough to spend THAT MUCH TIME talking about it.

     

    Glad you liked my update then image

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  • SimperFiSimperFi Notyourbusiness, OHPosts: 108Member

    Sorry guys, but as a player who PAYED 60 USD for the game and got nothing in return but excuses from the company and a no refund policy, I despise this game and company with every ounce of my being.

     

     

    My polite requests for a refund didn't even get past a level 1 support tech. Hundreds of US players have been ripped off beyond belief. If there's ever an excuse to go to war, this is it. We should demand that the company be exiled from their country immediately. This is ROBBERY, blatant robbery.

     

     

    And yet these poor dumb bastards continue to buy the game, not knowing until later that they still have to pay even more money and are forced to continue paying it. It's disgusting.

  • lachrymoseQQlachrymoseQQ Clemson, SCPosts: 60Member

    Thanks for including me in the OP! I'm so flattered. Unfortunately, I'm not a mod anymore. :(

     

    So inferno, how's it been old buddy? I see you still have lots of time on your hands. Hopefully you didn't spend too much time putting all of this together, since I doubt anyone wants to spend the time reading through all of this. Not many people besides you have that much time on their hands to waste. :

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