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CME Files Bankruptcy

lovecloneloveclone Phoenix, AZMember Posts: 57

Looks like they filed on February 12th for chapter 11 Bankruptcy.

Way to go!   Get your game out then screw over everyone who you owe!  

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Notice of Bankruptcy Case Filing



A bankruptcy case concerning the debtor(s) listed below was filed under Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code, entered on 02/12/2010 at 3:49 PM and filed on 02/12/2010.



CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN ENTERTAINMENT, INC

4140 E BASELINE ROAD, SUITE #208

MESA, AZ 85206

Tax ID / EIN: 20-333XXXX



The case was filed by the debtor's attorney:

DOUGLAS S YOUNGLOVE

DOUGLAS S YOUNGLOVE, PLLC

125 E CORONADO ROAD

PHOENIX, AZ 85004

602-258-4838

The case was assigned case number 2:10-bk-03632-SSC to Judge Sarah Sharer Curley.

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  • Player_420Player_420 KuesecMember Posts: 686

    It's moves like this that hurt the MMORPG genre (in terms of the financing of new games)

    I play all ghame

  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXMember Posts: 3,400 Uncommon

    Other than FFXI, this was the only other game I was excited to see.  Doesn't look too good now :(

  • ReizlaReizla 127.0.0.1Member Posts: 3,778 Uncommon

    ...an other one bites the dust...

    Pity SGW never saw the light of day. Lets hope MGM will seek someone to complete it (as long as it's not SOE)

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  • WraithoneWraithone Salt Lake City, UTMember Posts: 3,652 Uncommon
    Originally posted by Reizla


    ...an other one bites the dust...
    Pity SGW never saw the light of day. Lets hope MGM will seek someone to complete it (as long as it's not SOE)

     

    Now that would be ironic, wouldn't it? I shudder to think about the dogs breakfast that SOE would make of SGW.

  • gogogogonegogogogone Hey, DCMember Posts: 40

    omg no!  Why?

  • therain93therain93 Winthrop, MAMember Posts: 2,039 Uncommon
    Originally posted by loveclone


    The case was assigned case number 2:10-bk-03632-SSC to Judge Sarah Sharer Curley.



     

    Judge Curley!? nyuk-nyuk-nyuk ( ' :

    On a more serious note, that's unfortunate that another game falls away.  Development costs are out of control and management seems to be quite ineffective for so many of these developers -- gamers' unrealized dreams are hurt the most.

  • ben3283ben3283 Tampa, FLMember Posts: 28

    Damn I was really looking forward to this game, hopefully somone will pick up the concept of the Stargate Universe.

  • Esther-ChanEsther-Chan Prestonsburg, KYMember Posts: 288

    This is truly sad. I just spent the last month watching the first 3 seasons of SG-1 on Hulu and then I heard about this game. I'm really saddened that it is not going to come into fruition. That being said, I also am saddened that Jack O'Neill quit SG-1 in Season 8, which ruined the show for me so I stopped watching it. I was hoping to see a nice little Samantha Carter + Jack O'Neill Romance, but I guess Richard wanted to be with his family and I guess that's admirable.



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  • Einherjar_LCEinherjar_LC MelfiMember Posts: 1,055 Uncommon

    It's sad but I can't say this is much of a surprise to anyone that followed anything about CME, well at least I'm not too surprised by it.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • astrob0yastrob0y stockholmMember Posts: 702

    damn

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember Posts: 20,769 Epic
    Originally posted by loveclone


    Looks like they filed on February 12th for chapter 11 Bankruptcy.
    Way to go!   Get your game out then screw over everyone who you owe!  
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Notice of Bankruptcy Case Filing


    A bankruptcy case concerning the debtor(s) listed below was filed under Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code, entered on 02/12/2010 at 3:49 PM and filed on 02/12/2010.



    CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN ENTERTAINMENT, INC

    4140 E BASELINE ROAD, SUITE #208

    MESA, AZ 85206

    Tax ID / EIN: 20-333XXXX


    The case was filed by the debtor's attorney:

    DOUGLAS S YOUNGLOVE

    DOUGLAS S YOUNGLOVE, PLLC

    125 E CORONADO ROAD

    PHOENIX, AZ 85004

    602-258-4838
    The case was assigned case number 2:10-bk-03632-SSC to Judge Sarah Sharer Curley.



     

    Well, I'm not a bankruptcy laywer (or any lawyer for that matter) but it seems to me that chapter 11 protects them from their creditors, allows them to pay off their debts (because last thing I remember one has to pay back their debts even if one files for bankruptcy) and essentially puts them in a better financial place depending on the details.

    I mean, Ballys gyms recently filed for bankruptcy protection so they could deal with their debt. They aren't closing, just a business decision.

    The Chapter 11 Debtor in Possession

    Chapter 11 is typically used to reorganize a business, which may be a corporation, sole proprietorship, or partnership.

  • ForceQuitForceQuit Austin, TXMember Posts: 350

    Well yeah its totally a crappy move, but its still only chapter 11.  In the end, it could be a good thing If the lawsuits get settled, certain people get kicked to the curb, and some new blood brought in.  The debts are reorganized and they have some possible capital coming in from SGR... they could get this whole debacle straightened out if they really really wanted to.

     

    edit:  haha sovrath beat me to it lol

  • KordeshKordesh P, NJMember Posts: 1,715

     People still thought this was coming out? After they

    A: Canceled the MMO to make it into a FPS

    and then 

    B: Canceled the FPS entirely

    ?

    What did you expect them to do besides go bankrupt at this point. 

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember Posts: 20,769 Epic
    Originally posted by ForceQuit


    Well yeah its totally a crappy move, but its still only chapter 11.  In the end, it could be a good thing If the lawsuits get settled, certain people get kicked to the curb, and some new blood brought in.  The debts are reorganized and they have some possible capital coming in from SGR... they could get this whole debacle straightened out if they really really wanted to.
     
    edit:  haha sovrath beat me to it lol



     

  • cag1980cag1980 kMember Posts: 78
    Originally posted by Kordesh


     People still thought this was coming out? After they
    A: Canceled the MMO to make it into a FPS
    and then 
    B: Canceled the FPS entirely
    ?
    What did you expect them to do besides go bankrupt at this point. 



     

    Well the FPS may be cancelled, but what is this on Steam then http://store.steampowered.com/app/49700/ 

     

    just wondering

  • ReizlaReizla 127.0.0.1Member Posts: 3,778 Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by loveclone


    Looks like they filed on February 12th for chapter 11 Bankruptcy.
    Way to go!   Get your game out then screw over everyone who you owe!  
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Notice of Bankruptcy Case Filing


    A bankruptcy case concerning the debtor(s) listed below was filed under Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code, entered on 02/12/2010 at 3:49 PM and filed on 02/12/2010.



    CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN ENTERTAINMENT, INC

    4140 E BASELINE ROAD, SUITE #208

    MESA, AZ 85206

    Tax ID / EIN: 20-333XXXX


    The case was filed by the debtor's attorney:

    DOUGLAS S YOUNGLOVE

    DOUGLAS S YOUNGLOVE, PLLC

    125 E CORONADO ROAD

    PHOENIX, AZ 85004

    602-258-4838
    The case was assigned case number 2:10-bk-03632-SSC to Judge Sarah Sharer Curley.



    Well, I'm not a bankruptcy laywer (or any lawyer for that matter) but it seems to me that chapter 11 protects them from their creditors, allows them to pay off their debts (because last thing I remember one has to pay back their debts even if one files for bankruptcy) and essentially puts them in a better financial place depending on the details.

    I mean, Ballys gyms recently filed for bankruptcy protection so they could deal with their debt. They aren't closing, just a business decision.

    The Chapter 11 Debtor in Possession

    Chapter 11 is typically used to reorganize a business, which may be a corporation, sole proprietorship, or partnership.

     

    I'm Dutch and don't know dick about US laws. But what you discribe here is what we'd call in Holland a "surceance van betaling".

    Though I'm no lawyer, I am a credit collector and am pretty familiar with the outstanding debts, bankruptcy and all around it. Your Chapter 11 (or our Dutch "surceance van betaling") is mostly used to see if there's anything salvegeble from the sinking ship. In 99% of the cases this will show it's not possible unless:

    1. to prevent bankruptcy the creditors agree on a % of their outstanding debts (which is always more than what they'd get after bankruptcy)
    2. reorganize, file bankruptcy for the original company (CME in this case) and continue working in a new company that pays off the debts
    3. a miracle happens (as if...)

    In most cases 1 and 2 won't happen and 3 is out of the question.

    Back to CME... Looking at how they were in the last 2 years, I doubt 1 will be an option any creditor will refuse and loose more money (and interest) on CME.

    Option 2 might be workable if CME already has a plan (and funder, which is more important here) on how to file bankruptcy and restart as a new company

    Option 3..? Start praying :D

    So back to my previous comment... MGM is back in the picture again as IP holder, and they'll be looking for someone to continue the work on SGW. Who other than Sony, who might be their compatitor, but has insight into gaming in their view, would be a logic choice to let a Sony subsiduery (SOE) complete their product..?

     

    ...sorry for the bad spelling - English is not my native language and I'm too lazy to grab a dictionary right now :p

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  • ReizlaReizla 127.0.0.1Member Posts: 3,778 Uncommon
    Originally posted by cag1980

    Originally posted by Kordesh


     People still thought this was coming out? After they
    A: Canceled the MMO to make it into a FPS
    and then 
    B: Canceled the FPS entirely
    ?
    What did you expect them to do besides go bankrupt at this point. 



     

    Well the FPS may be cancelled, but what is this on Steam then http://store.steampowered.com/app/49700/ 

     

    just wondering

     

    http://www.stargateresistance.com/

    Look at the bottom... No mention of CME at all

    [EDIT]

    Looks like option 2 in my previous post is starting already...

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  • PhryPhry OxfordshireMember Posts: 7,899 Epic

    if SOE is entering into this scenario then imo, option 3 is probably a more realistic option

  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember Posts: 20,769 Epic
    Originally posted by Reizla

    Originally posted by Sovrath




    Well, I'm not a bankruptcy laywer (or any lawyer for that matter) but it seems to me that chapter 11 protects them from their creditors, allows them to pay off their debts (because last thing I remember one has to pay back their debts even if one files for bankruptcy) and essentially puts them in a better financial place depending on the details.
    I mean, Ballys gyms recently filed for bankruptcy protection so they could deal with their debt. They aren't closing, just a business decision.
    The Chapter 11 Debtor in Possession
    Chapter 11 is typically used to reorganize a business, which may be a corporation, sole proprietorship, or partnership.


     

    I'm Dutch and don't know dick about US laws. But what you discribe here is what we'd call in Holland a "surceance van betaling".

    Though I'm no lawyer, I am a credit collector and am pretty familiar with the outstanding debts, bankruptcy and all around it. Your Chapter 11 (or our Dutch "surceance van betaling") is mostly used to see if there's anything salvegeble from the sinking ship. In 99% of the cases this will show it's not possible unless:

    1. to prevent bankruptcy the creditors agree on a % of their outstanding debts (which is always more than what they'd get after bankruptcy)
    2. reorganize, file bankruptcy for the original company (CME in this case) and continue working in a new company that pays off the debts
    3. a miracle happens (as if...)

    In most cases 1 and 2 won't happen and 3 is out of the question.

    Back to CME... Looking at how they were in the last 2 years, I doubt 1 will be an option any creditor will refuse and loose more money (and interest) on CME.

    Option 2 might be workable if CME already has a plan (and funder, which is more important here) on how to file bankruptcy and restart as a new company

    Option 3..? Start praying :D

    So back to my previous comment... MGM is back in the picture again as IP holder, and they'll be looking for someone to continue the work on SGW. Who other than Sony, who might be their compatitor, but has insight into gaming in their view, would be a logic choice to let a Sony subsiduery (SOE) complete their product..?

     

    ...sorry for the bad spelling - English is not my native language and I'm too lazy to grab a dictionary right now :p



     

    certainly clear and completey understandable and certainly better than my dutch.

  • ArtarylArtaryl Guelph, ONMember Posts: 66


    Originally posted by Reizla
    Originally posted by cag1980
    Originally posted by Kordesh  People still thought this was coming out? After they
    A: Canceled the MMO to make it into a FPS
    and then 
    B: Canceled the FPS entirely
    ?
    What did you expect them to do besides go bankrupt at this point. 

     
    Well the FPS may be cancelled, but what is this on Steam then http://store.steampowered.com/app/49700/ 
     
    just wondering



     
    http://www.stargateresistance.com/
    Look at the bottom... No mention of CME at all
    [EDIT]
    Looks like option 2 in my previous post is starting already...

    You might want to read that again:


    steam small charactersFireSky® is a registered trademark of Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment, Inc. STARGATE SG-1© 1997-2010 MGM Television Entertainment Inc. and MGM Global Holdings Inc. STARGATE ATLANTIS© 2004-2010 MGM Global Holdings Inc. STARGATE SG-1, STARGATE ATLANTIS and STARGATE WORLDS are trademarks of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios, Inc. All rights reserved. METRO-GOLDWYN MAYER™ & © 2010 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. All rights reserved. All other trademarks or tradenames are the property of their respective owners.

    FireSky® is a registered trademark of Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment, Inc.

    See CME right there

  • ReizlaReizla 127.0.0.1Member Posts: 3,778 Uncommon

    ...my bad...

    *cleans glasses and goes on*

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  • ZepliniZeplini LeedsMember Posts: 286 Uncommon

    great ip but wasted on cme and mr gary whiting, if anyone has followed half of whats been going on then you will know its been a sordid mess from start to finish.

    thank god its over - now remove the game from mmorpg.com pls......................

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  • SimsuSimsu Member Posts: 377 Uncommon

    As others have stated a Chapter 11 is not the end of the company. Basically it means that CME is protected from their creditors (people who loaned them money) suing to collect the money that is owed until the bankruptcy is over. Basically CME and everyone who they owe money to will go to bankruptcy court and they will submit plans of repayment that everyone has to agree to. Once there is an agreed plan then the company comes out of bankruptcy and repays its debts according to what was agreed upon.

    A Chapter 7 is where the company is shut down and everything is sold off to pay debts.

    (Simplified version of what happens in a Chapter 11)

  • AstralglideAstralglide Simi Valley, CAMember Posts: 686 Uncommon

     We seem to be missing the most important part of this story. CME's lawyer is named "Younglove" C'mon, people!

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  • RavingRabbidRavingRabbid Virginia beach, VAMember Posts: 1,150 Uncommon
    Originally posted by Reizla


    ...an other one bites the dust...
    Pity SGW never saw the light of day. Lets hope MGM will seek someone to complete it (as long as it's not SOE)



     

    or Cryptic either......

    (BBBBBBBWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH fires plungers at CME management!)

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