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Entropia Universe: Catching Up With Entropia
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MMORPG.com's Carolyn Koh was recently at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. While there, she spoke with the team from MindArk, the folks behind Entropia Universe about the virtual world's most recent progress.
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We have not heard very much from Entropia Universe in the past year and the reason is that there wasn't that much to talk about besides the work on the new game engine.
"We've been quiet because we've been hard at work," said David Simmonds, Business Development Director of MindArk. "We rolled out the CryEngine2 in August of 2009 and have been getting all systems up to date."
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The author of this article should transistion between talking about the space station better. Aside from that it was an interesting read, espicially about the nasa stuff, however, the stuff she has quoted from the guys that work at mindark is misleading and not accurate. I'm not really surprised though.
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I still have the hardest time believing that someone *has* 300k to spend like that. You'd have to be the son of an oil baron, movie star or politician, or perhaps a really savvy bank robber.
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Entropia is pretty much an MMO designed for the super wealthy. A cute thing for them to tool around in and throw money at. Basically, it's the dream land for all the RMT supporters, where money can play the game for you! Personally, all Entropia should be to everyone else is an indicator that if the person you're talking to says "Oh yeah I play that heavily" you should just walk away and forget they exist.
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Yup, this game when I tried it was very free player unfriendly. You pretty much HAVE to put some money into it.
As a new free player, the only way to earn money was to gather sweat from animals with a sweat-gun (which doesn't hurt the animal but has a chance of aggroing it) and if the animal aggrod onto you you had to run away till it de-aggrod, because you had no way to actually fight the creature. Once I had enough sweat saved up I bought the cheapest real gun I could find and like 20 bullets for it and tried to kill one of the creatures for xp and loot, but the gun was so cheap and weak that I used all my ammo on one creature without killing it and had to run off it's aggro.
Since it had taken me about 2 hours just to get enough sweat to buy the gun and ammo, there was no way I was gonna farm sweat for another several hours just to get more ammo to try again. Un-installed the game and haven't gone back. Maybe things have changed since then though.
...and you expected the combination of "free play", free real money" and "easy to get" to be something obtainable from a business that wishes to be successful?
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I tried this game out, and as KualaBD mentioned, the only thing a newbie can do is harvest sweat. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
The only way I would ever play this game again is with some sort of bot program. And I believe botting is cheating in MMOs, so I guess that really means is "the only way I would ever play this game again is with some sort of NEVER."
yes 3rd party programs are not aloud. They have now introduced a auto click system which works for all areas crafting and mining as well has the sweating.
I am a casual player in EU. I only pay in what i am willing to lose. When i find teh game no longer entertaining then i will stop. peopel waste more money on getting drunk .
the proplem with the game is that people enter the game thinking its gonna be an easy ride, You have to work at the game and i know many people who never put money into the game, you just have to play smart and take your time. Once you are involved with societies you will find your self hooked on its strange way of life.
if you jump in with all guns blazing you will fail. This is not a game that you lvl up in 1 month or even 1yr this game is open ended with all sorts of possiblities. Only the lack of imagination and determiantion to learn and create a way of life in EU will you fail in this game.
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Sad thing is, I cant play anymore since the upped the min requirements.
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It is definitely an interesting setup for a game,and i saw some screen shots of the new engine and they looked great.
I mentioned this before,how can Entropia put out the effort to transform their game and Blizzard making millions more show no effort at all?I think it shows that this guy is more passionate about his game,outside of just making money.
Still to this day i think i do not fully understand Entropia,i did play it,but did not really get a grasp for the whole system and what i was suppose to accomplish.This could be the game's downfall,maybe some marketing posts to educate people on the game system.I would suggest a little at a time rather than the whole shebam at once,people like myself have ADS lol,seriously i think divulging a little at a time,helps to explain things better.Maybe a 5 part post here or something like that.
All i remember when i last played in the Entropia universe was killing sparse odd looking critters to try and collect sweat glands,that was the only way to make a living that i knew of.I am sure there is a lot more to the game than that.I think if my shotty memory serves me right,there was also a very limited naming system,i just can't remember exactly how it worked,i think your last name had to be chosen from a list?
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It's a nice looking game but trying to figure out "mystical" mechanics will probably cost you a big chunk of $$$. Information on the mechanics, tips, and what makes the game tick are not discussed very openly. It's like the info is guarded, only a few people really know how the game works, and they aren't interested in sharing it. Combine this with item decay and you either have to be really lucky or know someone who knows a lot of insider info about the game to break even. Heavy on graphics card as well as your wallet.
hehe sorry to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I guess when money is involved people keep a tight lip on info that could hurt their earnings.
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has the new CryGen 2 graphics out on the servers yet? I keep eeing everywhere that their working on it and that they have implemented it. The last time I played the game the graphics was grabage. They have been talking about this crygen 2 craft ffor over 2 to 3 yrs now.... I really hate the game... You gotta play the game with real money. I spent $20 one time and that lasted like 2 days. Guns cost money, ammo cost money, it cost money to repair every damn thing. it takes like 25ammo to kill something. IF you wanna mine you gotta pay for that. Ohh well.. I say that the game isn't good at all. Maybe it would be better if the grpahics was good....
The CE2 graphics have been in since August-September, but I don't find them to be that stellar. On another note good graphics don't make games better unless gameplay never mattered for you, which it seems it does. You don't have to play with real money. I never did. I don't play it now because everytime they updated something it was to milk players for more money so I quit, but I did want to check out the new graphics and I wasn't impressed.
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"Chemistry: 'We do stuff in lab that would be a felony in your garage.'"
The most awesomest after school special T-shirt:
Front: UNO Chemistry Club
Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions
I haven't played a game yet where the graphics made me say Wow. We have all these new graphics cards out and really don't have any game that uses half of a video cards power. I may download Entropia again and see what the graphics look like. I just wish a Game Deveolper would come out with a game that has out of this world graphics/gameplay/ and a never ending story.
Are you serious? The new graphics engine for this program requires a good deal of power that many of the regular playerbase's computers couldn't muster. I think you over estimate graphics cards' capabilities
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"Chemistry: 'We do stuff in lab that would be a felony in your garage.'"
The most awesomest after school special T-shirt:
Front: UNO Chemistry Club
Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions
Yoohoo!! Go EU!! Entropia is without a question the most beautiful MMORPG of our time and it will stay in that position for years. And those who wonder where did Buzz get 300k, ever heard of loans? Nice article!
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Do we need another microtransaction MMO? Don't we have enough ways to pay to level as it is? As to it being SF, I applaud that, shame the revenue model is designed to milk every £/$ out of you.
i put 20 bucks into the game, and walked away with 230.
i put some low level crap on the broker, i accidentally overpriced it, and someone must've accidentally boought it.
i took the money out and im not going back
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Its also the most boring 'game' ever devised.
Even if you did put some money in the only thing you can do that can be classed as a 'game' is shoot mobs and hope they drop something nice - add nauseum.
No quests, no mini games and is utterly utterly eye wateringly boring.
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Entropia is not as easy to learn as any other MMORPG, so players should not play it like this. If you loose ingame money in Entropia, you loose it in RL too. If someone plays any RCE game, he should be aware of this and put only as much money in, as he wants to loose.
But:
Entropia is the only game where I am allowed legally to sell my items and even my skills to any other player and get the money back. If you play stupid, you won't get back much, if you play smart, you will get back more, than you have put it. Of course it will not be enough to cancel your job, but it means: play smart and you play for free.
I know people who lost thousands of US$, but they don't care for that money in RL. I also know people who never depositted and have uber gear, simply because they worked hard in the game (and ofc not sweating for months as it will not bring you far).
My advice to new players is always:
Wait at least 1 week before you deposit. Do not buy ANYTHING until you found a mentor in game. (A mentor tells you where to find cheap stuff and doesn't want to sell you his things
). Then it is a lot fun. If someone tries to find his way in Entropia without the help of experienced players, he is definately doomed.
About me:
I am not a normal player, as I bought two shop for pretty much money, but they make enough profit, that I don't need to deposit again for playing.
And this will not changed. Reason:
Mini games and quests need to be added all the time, but after a year, they are boring anyway. Find x items, bring to y person (maybe with some more links), but in the end it's the same anyway. There is a reason why players tend to stop to play MMORPGs after a year. There is a reason why you have to buy expansion packs in MMORPGs and then it gets boring again.
Entropia is not a normal MMORPG, if you meet people in game, you realize that most of them play it since years and don't plan to stop. It's totally different but it needs people with different mindset too. If I meet someone in game who likes WoW, I know, that he won't be happy with Entropia.
I am not bashing WoW, I am just trying to say: you can't compare these games.
And this will not changed. Reason:
Mini games and quests need to be added all the time, but after a year, they are boring anyway. Find x items, bring to y person (maybe with some more links), but in the end it's the same anyway. There is a reason why players tend to stop to play MMORPGs after a year. There is a reason why you have to buy expansion packs in MMORPGs and then it gets boring again.
Entropia is not a normal MMORPG, if you meet people in game, you realize that most of them play it since years and don't plan to stop. It's totally different but it needs people with different mindset too. If I meet someone in game who likes WoW, I know, that he won't be happy with Entropia.
I am not bashing WoW, I am just trying to say: you can't compare these games.
No you cant compare WoW and Entropia because WoW cost 15 bucks every MONTH and Entropia can cost 15 bucks an HOUR. Ofcourse it all depends on what you hunt. But if you play this game you better be ready to lose the money you put in.
This game is still one of the bigger scams on the net. Basically playing this game is gambling. If you don't put in an ante you basically get nowhere.
I don't know why MMORPG continues to cover this despicable game.
Given that everything in this game is done with "real money", and that the developers (Mindark) have to make a profit, the only way it CAN work is if the average player spends more than they take out of the game.
For the average player, it's pretty much a casino full of slotmachines. All activities cost money, but there is always a chance that you can hit a random loot drop that pays big. Whether it be hunting mobs, mining minerals or crafting, the lure of a "big payout" is always there. And the more money you spend on an activity, the bigger the random drops are.
To allow one player to get a big payout, a lot of other players have to put money in the "pot". The money has to come from somewhere, and that "somewhere" is the players' wallets.
The game encourages you to go for the jackpot payouts, of course. There is a continuous feed of messages to inform you of which players have "hit the big one". Perhaps if you just pay a few more dollars to be able to carry on hunting/mining/crafting for the next 15 minutes you can also get lucky...
As with any gambling game, there will be plenty of people who will be eager to tell you how much they won, or how they played clever and beat the system. The thousands of other players that walked away with a loss will not be lining-up to tell you how easily they were suckered, or for how much.
I reckon that if you are careful, moderately intelligent and prepared to invest $1000 or so in your first year, you could probably work out a system whereby you could continue to play for free indefinitely. You will have enough skills and know-how by that stage to soak up the money spent by the never ending stream of clueless newbies that try the game, overspend and give up playing 3 or 6 months later...
mindark should just charge a monthly fee(a la wow)and let the game market play it self!the way mindark work right now they are killing the idea before it even picked up.but then since its all about money they would have to forgo big revenu for smaller one they probably dont want that so their gamwe concept is awsome but the way mindark try to make money isnt so it will die by it self
or the other planet will do the good call and make a ton while mindark own planet scape by or they ll find a skeem to empty pocket of others
the only light in their concept might be the other planet if other planet are good game even if they charge 5 $ a month to play if then the game maker stay neutral it could pick up big time .if an item drop every 10 foe then a game maker like mindark decide to up the degradation rate or lower the drop rate of said item only one benefit from those move its mindark
and mindark would gain lot more costumer by going neutral instead of doing what they do now!thats my 2 cent!
This would be the worst game ever if they added a monthly fee.. that would be like playing poker were you cant raise over 1$...
But with most gambling there is always a way to play smart so that you can get those extra % in your favor. Those exists in EU aswell so you just have to hunt smart (e.g not using p4-p5 on atroxs thats like going all out with 7, 2...) and pick a good mob (maybe someone that drops weapons/amor worth 200+%?)
Anyway Im having a hard time to lose money in this game guess thats all that matters for me