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Hey, mmorpg.com. When do we get your review? **Updated: prepare for the sh*tstorm**

ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member

I remember having to make a thread just like this just to get you guys to do an interview when darkfall first launched ( and we all remember what a swell guy Tasos was for that one ).

So here we are 4? months after the EU launch and now in the middle of an NA launch and yet, no review.

We had to ask you to do the interview because no other well known legitimate gaming site's were given one. And now we have to ask you to finally do a review for the same reason.

Are you still waiting for Tasos to give you a free account so you can review it? Because he won't and we all know it.

So, do you plan to plunk down the $50 and finally give your site's opinion on Darkfall?

I realize you enjoy the forum traffic brought by fanbots and trolls fighting non-stop, but I think it's time you guys climb off the fence and let us all know your opinion of the game.

Of course, you'll risk Tasos having a shit fit if you don't give his baby a glowing review, but that's part of the job, right?

Edit: And I mean one of your real reviewers. Personally, I'd prefer Stradden, since he's known to love PvP, so noone can claim he's a "WoW sheep" or "carebear"  ( although the fanbots inevitably will, anyway ).

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  • downtoearthdowntoearth cedar falls, IAPosts: 3,558Member
    Originally posted by Zorvan


    I remember having to make a thread just like this just to get you guys to do an interview when darkfall first launched ( and we all remember what a swell guy Tasos was for that one ).
    So here we are 4? months after the EU launch and now in the middle of an NA launch and yet, no review.
    We had to ask you to do the interview because no other well known legitimate gaming site's were given one. And now we have to ask you to finally do a review for the same reason.
    Are you still waiting for Tasos to give you a free account so you can review it? Because he won't and we all know it.
    So, do you plan to plunk down the $50 and finally give your site's opinion on Darkfall?
    I realize you enjoy the forum traffic brought by fanbots and trolls fighting non-stop, but I think it's time you guys climb off the fence and let us all know your opinion of the game.
    Of course, you'll risk Tasos having a shit fit if you don't give his baby a glowing review, but that's part of the job, right?

     

    ill donate my eu account for it

  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Leland, NCPosts: 3,275Member

    Did they even announce the expansion launch?

     

    There is no rule saying they have to review it. Paid beta not beta, launch but beta still but launched. DF has so many stages of launch right now maybe they are giving it time to figure out where it is in development so they can give it a fair review. But at the same time it is such a blip on the screen right now that they may not be in any hurry either.  There doesnt seem to be to many fence sitters left. You either are DF or you arent at this point it appears.

  • ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member
    Originally posted by parrotpholk


    Did they even announce the expansion launch?
     
    There is no rule saying they have to review it. Paid beta not beta, launch but beta still but launched. DF has so many stages of launch right now maybe they are giving it time to figure out where it is in development so they can give it a fair review. But at the same time it is such a blip on the screen right now that they may not be in any hurry either.  There doesnt seem to be to many fence sitters left. You either are DF or you arent at this point it appears.



     

    The game launched. They accepted money and now even launched another server in a second country (NA).

    Anyone who tries to say the game is not released is deluding themselves looking for a reason for justification for the game's faults.

    And no, mmorpg.com doesn't HAVE to review it. But in the interest of their readers and their site in general, I think it's high time they did.

    In fact, mmorpg.com even said they were going to. They said they were trying to get an account and were being ignored. This was at the time of the interview, roughly 4 months ago. Nothing said afterwards.

  • RespitRespit DFW, TXPosts: 770Member

    I would suggest a "sneak" review.

    Reason being, then Aventurine can't "pull the play logs" and claim that MMORPG.Com only played 12.75 hours, when they should have played at least 13.

     

    I would personally like to see a reveiw here also, maybe at the 6 month mark?

     

     

    Edit: I'd also like to see Morgan Webb  give a review, but I doubt that will ever happen.

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  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 18,045Member Uncommon

    Hmmm, I am not so sure that they dare to make one, it would turn into the bigest flame war the forum ever seen whatever the score would be.

    The noob comic made a joke about Tasos and Zitron and was gone the next day from the site, too many people have very strong opinions about the game and are not interested to make a normal discussion. When people (who love or hate the game) have a solid opinion they can't change whatever the arguments they get a discussion is useless and everything just turns into a flame war.

    It might just be the best to keep a low profile here and not awake the trolls. It would just work our poor mods to death trying to clean up the debate and send warnings to everyone.

    The problem is that one of the groups of trolls only see the good parts of the game and makes a crusade against anyone mentioning a bad feature while the other group is the straight opposite.

    And a good review would therefor upset them all. Anyone who only can see good things or bad things is a fanatic.

    So I rather have that review in a year or so when things finally calmed down.

  • ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member

    And surprisingly, no Darth's yet telling us how mmorpg.com has no value because they don't censor bad remarks toward the game.

  • ElendilasXElendilasX VilniusPosts: 243Member

    I would love to see mmorpg.com review and how much points it would give to DF. But it can get high score only if reviewer is obsessed with PvP and stupid drama of clans. If not, we will see something like eurogamer re-review.

  • FariicFariic Newark, DEPosts: 1,546Member

    About a week shy of five months.

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 20,008Member Uncommon

    I'm sure they'll get around to a review as soon as the game releases.  

    No, I mean the real game, you know, with all the features that were promised at launch.

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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Leland, NCPosts: 3,275Member
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by parrotpholk


    Did they even announce the expansion launch?
     
    There is no rule saying they have to review it. Paid beta not beta, launch but beta still but launched. DF has so many stages of launch right now maybe they are giving it time to figure out where it is in development so they can give it a fair review. But at the same time it is such a blip on the screen right now that they may not be in any hurry either.  There doesnt seem to be to many fence sitters left. You either are DF or you arent at this point it appears.



     

    The game launched. They accepted money and now even launched another server in a second country (NA).

    Anyone who tries to say the game is not released is deluding themselves looking for a reason for justification for the game's faults.

    And no, mmorpg.com doesn't HAVE to review it. But in the interest of their readers and their site in general, I think it's high time they did.

    In fact, mmorpg.com even said they were going to. They said they were trying to get an account and were being ignored. This was at the time of the interview, roughly 4 months ago. Nothing said afterwards.

     

    I dont doubt its released but there is a lot of debate on it at the same time. Reviewing DF is a lose/lose propostition really for this site as no matter how it swings it loses. However my bet is they give it a 6.8 or something along those lines if they did. Thats one of those..not to bad but not to good scores or in other words very average which although probable the fans still will not accept. They most likely will now that the supposed expansion has released.

  • BellarionBellarion Kitchener, ONPosts: 244Member

    I would love to see a review.

    Mayhaps they should dual-review it. That way two people can try to help each other out. Apparently this is a game where you need someone to watch your back.

     

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  • Fox2114Fox2114 Oxford, WIPosts: 20Member

    IF darkfall scraped a 5 from mmorpg I'd be shocked.  The games got a nifty shock factor, but once you realize the game is just naked people running around ganking eachother you see how shallow it is.  It's missing a ton of promised features, whats in there doesnt work half the time.  I bought it and didnt resub, its not worth it.  Im all for hardcore pvp ala good ol ultima, but in todays raid and gear happy market a game like this probably wont make it, and it sure as hell wont make it broken.  4/10 is about right but still generous from euro.

  • ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member

    This is the best Darkfall thread ever.

    I finally figured out how to keep all the fanbots out: make a thread asking for something they desperately do NOT want to see.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member
    Originally posted by Zorvan


    This is the best Darkfall thread ever.
    I finally figured out how to keep all the fanbots out: make a thread asking for something they desperately do NOT want to see.

     

    You just had to troll you own thread, didn't you ? 

    Couldnt it be we agree on the topic and the question in OP  for once ? 

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  • ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by Zorvan


    This is the best Darkfall thread ever.
    I finally figured out how to keep all the fanbots out: make a thread asking for something they desperately do NOT want to see.

     

    You just had to troll you own thread, didn't you ? 

    Couldnt it be we agree on the topic and the question in OP  for once ? 



     

    Actually, just wanted to get it back on the front page where the staff will see it now that the weekend is over and they're back.

    And thanks for the bump.

    Edit: And it's my thread, so it's hardly trolling.

    Edit 2: Holy crap! I just realized you typed in two almost grammatically perfect sentences AND didn't insult the site.

    Where's the real Darth, you bastage?

  • ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member

    Still no response from staff?

    Come on, drink your morning coffee and then get in here!

  • hooptyhoopty Dallas, TXPosts: 788Member

    I don't think the staff wants to do a review..That means they have to work harder to delete more threads/post

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  • rr2realrr2real San Luis Obispo, CAPosts: 448Member
    Originally posted by Zorvan


    I remember having to make a thread just like this just to get you guys to do an interview when darkfall first launched ( and we all remember what a swell guy Tasos was for that one ).
    So here we are 4? months after the EU launch and now in the middle of an NA launch and yet, no review.
    We had to ask you to do the interview because no other well known legitimate gaming site's were given one. And now we have to ask you to finally do a review for the same reason.
    Are you still waiting for Tasos to give you a free account so you can review it? Because he won't and we all know it.
    So, do you plan to plunk down the $50 and finally give your site's opinion on Darkfall?
    I realize you enjoy the forum traffic brought by fanbots and trolls fighting non-stop, but I think it's time you guys climb off the fence and let us all know your opinion of the game.
    Of course, you'll risk Tasos having a shit fit if you don't give his baby a glowing review, but that's part of the job, right?
    Edit: And I mean one of your real reviewers. Personally, I'd prefer Stradden, since he's known to love PvP, so noone can claim he's a "WoW sheep" or "carebear"  ( although the fanbots inevitably will, anyway ).

     

    well when Darkfall actually becomes an MMO

    i don't think enough people play it yet to call it an MMO

    and darkfall isn't really a MMORPG it's more of a FPS game like battlefield execept much worse and you have to pay 15 bucks/mon

  • xzyaxxzyax Fargo, NDPosts: 2,459Member
    Originally posted by hoopty


    I don't think the staff wants to do a review..That means they have to work harder to delete more threads/post

    I think you have guessed the correct answer.

     

    Let's look at the answer to this question a bit more in depth.

     

    Here is a little table to illustrate why this is a mysterious question indeed.
































































































    Why hasn't DarkFall been reviewed by MMORPG.COM?  Good Question!
    MMO Title Date Released  Review Score User Score Forum Posts
    Lunia 10/07/08 No Review 7.67 56
    AdventureQuest Worlds 10/10/08 7.0 No Score No Forums
    Atlantica Online 10/30/08 No Review 8.32 983
    Tantra Online 11/01/08 No Review 7.9 77
    Fusion Fall 1/19/09 7.0 No Score 4
    DarkFall Online

    2/25/09 No Review 6.61 155,558
    Runes of Magic 3/19/09 7.7 8.05 324
    Freaky Creatures 3/24/09 8.0 No Score 1
    The Chronicles of Spellborn 4/23/09 7.7 8.2 882
    Free Realms 4/28/09 8.3 8.1 75
    Project Powder 5/08/09 7.5 No Score 2
    Myth War 2 5/20/09 No Review 7.82 10

     

    The MMOs I included in the table above are those that have been released around the same time as DarkFall AND have at least one of the following: 


    • Enough reviews by mmorpg.com users to qualify for a User Score

    • OR have had a review done by MMORPG.COM (some obviously have both).

    I have also included some MMOs that were released BEFORE DarkFall where one of the following conditions was met as well. 

    I also included the number of threads in each MMO's Gen. Dis. Forum area to give an idea of how popular they are here at mmorpg.com. 

     

    I have tried to be factual in the above table, if there is any error in the above info please point it out as that is not the intent.

    It would seem logical that MMORPG.COM might use the number of posts in a given MMOs forum to guage how much interest a particular MMO has to warrant doing a Review or not.

    The only other MMO that seems to even come close to being in an identical situation as DarkFall is Atlantica Online.  They too have not had an official Review from MMORPG.COM and they have a fair amount of user interest (albeit a far cry from DarkFall's).

     

    Those numbers above are the facts as it relates to MMORPG.COM and their Reviews.

    Judge for yourself if you think that MMORPG.COM is dragging their feet on getting out a Review of DarkFall. 

  • xzyaxxzyax Fargo, NDPosts: 2,459Member
    Originally posted by xzyax


    Why hasn't DarkFall been reviewed by MMORPG.COM?  Good Question!


    MMO Title
    Date Released
     Review Score
    User Score
    Forum Posts


    Lunia
    10/07/08
    No Review
    7.67
    56


    AdventureQuest Worlds
    10/10/08
    7.0
    No Score
    No Forums


    Atlantica Online
    10/30/08
    No Review
    8.32
    983


    Tantra Online
    11/01/08
    No Review
    7.9
    77


    Fusion Fall
    1/19/09
    7.0
    No Score
    4


    DarkFall Online


    2/25/09
    No Review
    6.61
    155,558


    Runes of Magic
    3/19/09
    7.7
    8.05
    324


    Freaky Creatures
    3/24/09
    8.0
    No Score
    1


    The Chronicles of Spellborn
    4/23/09
    7.7
    8.2
    882


    Free Realms
    4/28/09
    8.3
    8.1
    75


    Project Powder
    5/08/09
    7.5
    No Score
    2


    Myth War 2
    5/20/09
    No Review
    7.82
    10



     
    The MMOs I included in the table above are those that have been released around the same time as DarkFall AND have at least one of the following: 

    Enough reviews by mmorpg.com users to qualify for a User Score
    OR have had a review done by MMORPG.COM (some obviously have both).

    I have also included some MMOs that were released BEFORE DarkFall where one of the following conditions was met as well. 
    I also included the number of threads in each MMOs Gen. Dis. Forum area to give an idea of how popular they are here at mmorpg.com. 
     

    Huh... who knew that a simple little table would cause a thread to go quiet. 

    I'll have to remember that little trick for later. 

  • ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member
    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by xzyax

    Huh... who knew that a simple little table would cause a thread to go quiet. 

    I'll have to remember that little trick for later. 



     

    Nah, i just don't want to believe mmorpg.com would be afraid to make a review solely because of high traffic count in this section.

    Hell, right now it's fanbots vs. trolls in 90% of the existing threads. Mmorpg.com "choosing a side", so to speak, isn't going to change that or the traffic. The most it will do is make Tasos angry and cause him to be a condescending little prick, but then he did that when they finally got to interview him, so that's no problem either.

    Besides, there's always the chance mmorpg.com might like the game. Although this would cause me to have to opt for a frontal lobotomy to compensate for the damage caused by the "WTF!?!" factor, it could happen.

  • xzyaxxzyax Fargo, NDPosts: 2,459Member
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by xzyax

    Huh... who knew that a simple little table would cause a thread to go quiet. 

    I'll have to remember that little trick for later. 



     

    Nah, i just don't want to believe mmorpg.com would be afraid to make a review solely because of high traffic count in this section.

    Hell, right now it's fanbots vs. trolls in 90% of the existing threads. Mmorpg.com "choosing a side", so to speak, isn't going to change that or the traffic. The most it will do is make Tasos angry and cause him to be a condescending little prick, but then he did that when they finally got to interview him, so that's no problem either.

    Besides, there's always the chance mmorpg.com might like the game. Although this would cause me to have to opt for a frontal lobotomy to compensate for the damage caused by the "WTF!?!" factor, it could happen.

    LOL! 

     

    Can't say I disagree with you. 

     

    Although you must admit when looking at the facts of that table above... it does seem a bit odd that DarkFall has been "over-looked" in getting a review. 

     

    Even stranger when such "well-known" titles like:


    • Fusion Fall

    • Project Powder

    • Freaky Creatures

    have already gotten a Review.

     

    Anyway... I'm sure they are getting around to it any day now. 

  • ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member

    And back to the front page we go.

  • AdminAdmin Santa Fe, NMPosts: 5,035Administrator Common

    Yaaawn!  Ok, your front page scheme worked and while finishing my coffee I will point our editorial team in the direction of this thread.  I am confident that something is in the works.  Keep in mind that we are not necessarily known for being the first site to review a game...heck I think we reviewed WAR like 6-8 months after launch (although this was too long).

    Also note that being a North American based site we were probably waiting for the official release on this side of the pond.

    - MMORPG.COM Staff -

  • ZorvanZorvan nowhere, CAPosts: 8,912Member
    Originally posted by Admin


    Yaaawn!  Ok, your front page scheme worked and while finishing my coffee I will point our editorial team in the direction of this thread.  I am confident that something is in the works.  Keep in mind that we are not necessarily known for being the first site to review a game...heck I think we reviewed WAR like 6-8 months after launch (although this was too long).
    Also note that being a North American based site we were probably waiting for the official release on this side of the pond.



     

    WOOT!

    Thanks, Admin!

    Edit: I agree with other posters who think maybe you shouldn't let Tasos/Aventurine know you're coming. Stealth review FTW!

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