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Instant attacks? Spell pushback?

jusomdudejusomdude Somewhere, KSPosts: 2,401Member

From what I've seen of the various WAR videos out, I didn't notice any instant attacks from the melee classes I saw playing, which has me concerned about the speed of combat and the skill required to play melee. From what I could see, melee players would just stand there using their special abilities on timers. Maybe I just didn't pay close enough attention to the videos but I couldn't help but get the feeling of boring melee combat. I wish MMO developers would have trials when the game is released and not the 30 days that you have to buy the game to get.... Not much of a trial when I'm paying $50 for it.

Also, the spell pushback looked like it was very similar to WoW, I don't know if it can be confirmed but if it's the same thing as WoW's pushback that rules out casting classes entirely for me, nothing like having a 2 sec spell turn into 5 secs or more.

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  • PheacePheace LeidenPosts: 2,408Member

    I think it's roughly similar to WoW.

     

    WoW's is actually getting changed with Wotlk:

     



    * When casting a spell:



    o The first and second hit will add .5 secs each to the cast time.

    o All hits after the second will have no effect.



    * When channeling a spell:



    o The first and second hit reduces current duration by 25% of total duration each.

    o All hits after the second will have no effect.

     

     

    Maybe WAR has something similar?

     

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  • ArckenArcken Chicago, ILPosts: 2,431Member
    Originally posted by jusomdude


    From what I've seen of the various WAR videos out, I didn't notice any instant attacks from the melee classes I saw playing, which has me concerned about the speed of combat and the skill required to play melee. From what I could see, melee players would just stand there using their special abilities on timers. Maybe I just didn't pay close enough attention to the videos but I couldn't help but get the feeling of boring melee combat. I wish MMO developers would have trials when the game is released and not the 30 days that you have to buy the game to get.... Not much of a trial when I'm paying $50 for it.
    Also, the spell pushback looked like it was very similar to WoW, I don't know if it can be confirmed but if it's the same thing as WoW's pushback that rules out casting classes entirely for me, nothing like having a 2 sec spell turn into 5 secs or more.



     

    Somehow I dont think itll be a huge problem with my dwarven engineer heh heh.

  • Tuck2000Tuck2000 Lynnwood, WAPosts: 361Member

    You cannot go by beta video's as most are pretty dated NDA should be off hopefully by the end of the week.

  • jusomdudejusomdude Somewhere, KSPosts: 2,401Member

    Thanks for the replies. That's good WoW spellcasting is getting changed, since as it is, it's really painful to play a caster with limited instant casts against melee.

    I guess I'll just have to wait for the NDA to come up to know these kind of details on WAR.

  • PoweruserPoweruser Thess/nikiPosts: 33Member
    Originally posted by jusomdude


    Thanks for the replies. That's good WoW spellcasting is getting changed, since as it is, it's really painful to play a caster with limited instant casts against melee.
    I guess I'll just have to wait for the NDA to come up to know these kind of details on WAR.

     

    WHAT! Give WAR a hardcore casting system plix.

  • I played it at comicon.  Ya don't worry the melee system has a dps and a speed it's not skill dependant.  casting is awesome pushback is very minor and im sure u can spec for anti pushback

  • zethcarnzethcarn Kentucky, KYPosts: 1,558Member
    Originally posted by xsarkaix


    I played it at comicon.  Ya don't worry the melee system has a dps and a speed it's not skill dependant.  casting is awesome pushback is very minor and im sure u can spec for anti pushback



     

    That's good to know.  I hated spell pushback in WoW and thought it gave casters an unfair disadvantage. 

    People agrued "well u need concentration to cast spells so getting hit should slow your casting".  What?  So if I blast your rogue with a 5,000 dmg instant pyroblast he's not going to slow down at all? He's going to shrug it off like nothing happen and not even lose 0.1 sec on attack speed.  Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

    edit: fixed a typo

  • AuzyAuzy Dallas, TXPosts: 611Member

    I think it all just depends on how much speed reduction you can put on melee classes.  If I am not even able to get to you then I should be able to mess up your casting.  From some of the vids ive seen melee classes are going to get their asses handed to them.

    Uhh... what?
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  • jusomdudejusomdude Somewhere, KSPosts: 2,401Member
    Originally posted by xsarkaix


    I played it at comicon.  Ya don't worry the melee system has a dps and a speed it's not skill dependant.  casting is awesome pushback is very minor and im sure u can spec for anti pushback



     

    Melee having a set speed is what I was actually worried about. From what I can remember of DAoC it was like that as well, and there were no instant attacks... you'd always have to essentially wait your turn to attack, even when using a special ability.

    I'm guessing there are weapons with different speeds, but to me, it seems the melee pvp flows at a slower pace from vids I've seen. The melee combat in WAR looks very turn based, which I'm not a big fan of... just trying to find out to know if I will like the game or not. Gameplay just doesn't excite me that much when it's like "Ok, I attack you, then you attack me, then repeat"

    Are people that played the game at publicised events allowed to give any details?

  • JustBeJustBe fdsfddsf, NYPosts: 495Member

    instant spells are usually over time spells.

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    Talking about SWG much?

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  • Ender4Ender4 milwaukee, WIPosts: 2,253Member

    Melee is just like WoW only with more abilities and more positional abilities and no spammable stuns.

  • ArndurArndur Frisco, TXPosts: 2,202Member
    Originally posted by zethcarn

    Originally posted by xsarkaix


    I played it at comicon.  Ya don't worry the melee system has a dps and a speed it's not skill dependant.  casting is awesome pushback is very minor and im sure u can spec for anti pushback



     

    That's good to know.  I hated spell pushback in WoW and thought it gave casters an unfair advantage. 

    People agrued "well u need concentration to cast spells so getting hit should slow your casting".  What?  So if I blast your rogue with a 5,000 dmg instant pyroblast he's not going to slow down at all? He's going to shrug it off like nothing happen and not even lose 0.1 sec on attack speed.  Yeah that makes a lot of sense.



     

    kalagan plays a rogue off course they just shrug it off becuase thats what he would do duh.

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