Any levelless mmos?

lethislethis Collinsville, ILMember Posts: 1

I've been looking for a new game for quite some time.  I've played numerous closed and open betas as well as many new releases over the last couple of years.  They all are the same thing.  XP until you level.

What I am looking for is a MMO that is based upon skill use and skill trees.  If you melee alot, you melee branches into multiple skills, which further branch, etc.  If you cast fire spells, they branch into higher level fire spells.  Same with healing, armor use, buffs, etc.

Is there a game out there like this or one in beta that I can look into?

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  • SaikronSaikron Murrells Inlet, SCMember Posts: 90

    Darkfall will be skill based if it ever makes it to beta :P

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  • vajurasvajuras Austin, TXMember Posts: 2,860

    There really isnt much out there. EVE Online is close, but its timed based. Really close but not pure skill-based....

    There are some coops/SP RPGs out there like TES, crackdown xbox360

    There's a few in development too (WELL online, earthrise, DFO, and some others) ....

    I'll check to see if this one game ive been helping test is rdy to accept more testers.. argh, I hate not being able to talk bout it cause I like it a lot

  • GuitanoGuitano Ocllo, WAMember Posts: 208

    The new game added to mmorpg.com Earthrise is skill based also.

  • Neocron sort of has a semi use based system.  Its not a skill tree though, just flat out skills.  Old SWG was use base training, but no longer.  UO is still use based I believe.

     

    I don't think you will see pure used based system much any more.  They are not all they are cracked up to be.  They appear cool at first blush,  but in reality they are a mess to maintain and just as silly as level based systems just in different ways.

  • ClassicstarClassicstar rotjeknorMember UncommonPosts: 2,697

    Fury i think is skill based and free to play now dunno about lvls, but seems you get like guild wars skills, there no classes.

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  • brutalcakesbrutalcakes paramus, NJMember Posts: 18

    can't forget about city of heroes/villains

  • daarcodaarco GavleMember CommonPosts: 4,497

    PotBS is a hybrid. When you gain a lvl, you gain a skill point to raise a skill of your own choice. That way the level doesnt matter that much. Because you dont know where the other player have put thier skill points.

  • SandboxGodSandboxGod Houston, TXMember Posts: 8

    Originally posted by gestalt11


    Neocron sort of has a semi use based system.  Its not a skill tree though, just flat out skills.  Old SWG was use base training, but no longer.  UO is still use based I believe.
     
    I don't think you will see pure used based system much any more.  They are not all they are cracked up to be.  They appear cool at first blush,  but in reality they are a mess to maintain and just as silly as level based systems just in different ways.
    Are you kidding a new skill-based title gets announced every couple of months. Its always been a known fact most PVPers hate Classes. Like Levels, it sucks to lose due to imbalances

     

    Team Fortress 2 did well for a PVP Class based title but even it is losing players to freeform FPS titles that do not suffer from ridiculous Class imbalances. The latest imbalance they say a team of scouts wipes all

  • herculeshercules lancashire,blackpoolMember UncommonPosts: 4,897

    ultima online

  • Originally posted by SandboxGod


     
    Originally posted by gestalt11


    Neocron sort of has a semi use based system.  Its not a skill tree though, just flat out skills.  Old SWG was use base training, but no longer.  UO is still use based I believe.
     
    I don't think you will see pure used based system much any more.  They are not all they are cracked up to be.  They appear cool at first blush,  but in reality they are a mess to maintain and just as silly as level based systems just in different ways.
    Are you kidding a new skill-based title gets announced every couple of months. Its always been a known fact most PVPers hate Classes. Like Levels, it sucks to lose due to imbalances

     

     

    Team Fortress 2 did well for a PVP Class based title but even it is losing players to freeform FPS titles that do not suffer from ridiculous Class imbalances. The latest imbalance they say a team of scouts wipes all

    Assuming a skill system has to have use based advancement is incorrect.

     

    You can have all the skills you want and not make it use based.  Too bad a lot of people smoosh the two together.   Even with  a non-use based system being the currently most popular skill game, EvE online.

     

    I am not sure why the various skill proponents can't clean up their terms and lumps 4 or 5 different systems together but they do and they need to stop.

     

    It may be the case that use-based requires something like a skill system.  It is certainly NOT the case that a skill system requires used based advancement. 

    And use based advancement has serious problems.  Just read Raph Koster's posts about it if you don't beleive me.

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